That page could have been written anytime after September 7th though, couldn't it? 'Likely' being the key word.
I don't think it would have been written without checking with the DfT.
That page could have been written anytime after September 7th though, couldn't it? 'Likely' being the key word.
so at which point do you say....tough.I am sure that if an Inquiry could be avoided then it would be. Nonetheless that seems an unlikely prospect.
An unnamed NR source provided this 'timetable' to Railfuture:
https://www.railfuture.org.uk/ox-cam
Clearly those dates quoted will not be met.
Lots of activity around Bicester in the last week or so. On 17 October Charbridge Lane level crossing (A4421 Bicester Perimeter Road) had its barriers removed. They have been replaced with farm type gates across the tracks either side of the road, but now nothing to protect the road. Track remains towards Bicester. And near Jarvis Lane the line has been slewed to connect with the Up Bletchley at Gavray Junction (previously it ended at buffer stops and connected into the Down side) see photo from 10 October.
https://www.winslowtowncouncil.gov.uk/east-west-rail-announcement-of-public-inquiry-details/We have been notified by the Secretary of State for Transport that the Public Inquiry into the second phase of the East West Rail project, which includes the line through Winslow, will be commence at 10am on Wednesday 6th February 2019 at MK Community Foundation Conference & Training Facilities, Margaret Powell House, 433C Midsummer Boulevard, Milton Keynes, MK9 3BN.

The Winslow Town Council is reporting the start date of the Public Inquiry to be Wednesday 6th February 2019.
https://www.winslowtowncouncil.gov.uk/east-west-rail-announcement-of-public-inquiry-details/
Assume this to be the Inquiry proper rather than the pre-inquiry meeting?
In which case I was wrong about the Inquiry timetable dates given a few posts back not being met![]()
Why is a Public inquiry needed for this stretch. I thought it was just upgrading a stretch that is closed but still with Network Rail.The Winslow Town Council is reporting the start date of the Public Inquiry to be Wednesday 6th February 2019.
https://www.winslowtowncouncil.gov.uk/east-west-rail-announcement-of-public-inquiry-details/
Assume this to be the Inquiry proper rather than the pre-inquiry meeting?
In which case I was wrong about the Inquiry timetable dates given a few posts back not being met![]()
Basically to allow closure of numerous level crossings by diverting and combining necessary roads and footpaths. Similar to what they did with Oxford to Bicester - also an operational railway prior to the project.Why is a Public inquiry needed for this stretch. I thought it was just upgrading a stretch that is closed but still with Network Rail.
As said by @swt_passenger many bits of the proposal require work outside what is operational rail land. Nonetheless had there been no objections, or the objections had been such that negotiation would have led to the objections being withdrawn, then there would not have been an Inquiry.Why is a Public inquiry needed for this stretch. I thought it was just upgrading a stretch that is closed but still with Network Rail.
I suppose you could say the purpose of the inquiry is to consider objections that were submitted during the objection period, and those objectors will already have been notified of the date and place.I am surprised that there is nothing yet about the Inquiry on the EastWestRail website.
Perhaps they don't see interaction with 'The Public' as a priority?
Ah, got it. Thank you.Basically to allow closure of numerous level crossings by diverting and combining necessary roads and footpaths. Similar to what they did with Oxford to Bicester - also an operational railway prior to the project.
Sure, as part of the formal process handled by the TWA Orders Unit (or their agents) on behalf of the Secretary of State.I suppose you could say the purpose of the inquiry is to consider objections that were submitted during the objection period, and those objectors will already have been notified of the date and place.
Why is a Public inquiry needed for this stretch. I thought it was just upgrading a stretch that is closed but still with Network Rail.
Extract:The backers of CamBedRailRoad have written a lettter to EWR...
http://www.royston-crow.co.uk/news/cbrr-letter-to-ewr-boss-1-5771489
Comment:and that their route delivers considerably more millions of communuter tickets
Extract:
Comment:
Until we have an indication of where the real housing growth is going to be how can they know?
And who are these communuters? Clearly not as important as great crestednuters![]()
There is already a big housing development at Cambourne and with a new town coming at Northstowe so the CamBedRailRoad route with a northern approach to Cambridge does make a lot of sense, especially if it could be planned alongside the Oxford to Cambridge Expressway corridor.
However, what I don't quite understand is how much support for CBRR is coming from people along the proposed route or whether it is a Nimbyist plan from those around Sandy who don't want the line near them.
Yet this blinkered Government can find £30billion to pay for roads despite choking us to death with air pollution!This bit of railway will get built once the funding is in place. Government don't want to pay, so the plan at the moment is to take a cut from house builders. Picking a route that goes past settlements which already exist, or where planning permission has already been given for new houses, but teans there is less cash to build it. Once the line is built, then it might be more profitable
Why, after the IPCC report on climate change was so damning of road traffic pollution?We need both rail AND road improvements in the corridor. it isnt one or the other.
We need both rail AND road improvements in the corridor. it isnt one or the other.
The only real certainty is that Chiltern will run the service from Marylebone to Milton Keynes via Aylesbury, because it is known to be an extension of their existing service.
Other services could be any of Chiltern, London Midland, or FGW, it has never been confirmed one way or another, although a few years back Chiltern were quoted as not being interested in the other expected routes at all. Given the more recent plans of the EWR consortium that trains will run through to Reading, I think FGW's successor is the most likely.
Already discussed more recently. You’re quoting a post from over 4 years ago, I think it was correct at that time...My understanding is a through service via Aylesbury has now been de-scoped - so passengers will now have to change trains at Aylesbury on the MK-Aylesbury-High Wycombe-Marylebone route. I am assuming this means Chiltern won't be getting as far as MK and East-West will be a standalone franchise to start with ( Oxford-MK, Oxford-Bedford , Aylesbury - MK )
It has not been proved that building roads doesn't relieve traffic congestion. I know several towns which once were gridlocked but which now have no traffic because a bypass has been built. Buckden, for example, used to have the A1 running though it. Now, you can stroll down the middle of the road to look at the Bishop's Palace.Yet this blinkered Government can find £30billion to pay for roads despite choking us to death with air pollution!
It has been proved that building more roads doesn't relieve traffic congestion. When will they learn?
A cop out again with railways. Why is it always railways and never roads descoped.My understanding is a through service via Aylesbury has now been de-scoped - so passengers will now have to change trains at Aylesbury on the MK-Aylesbury-High Wycombe-Marylebone route. I am assuming this means Chiltern won't be getting as far as MK and East-West will be a standalone franchise to start with ( Oxford-MK, Oxford-Bedford , Aylesbury - MK )
No it hasn't relieved it, it has just moved it to elsewhere.It has not been proved that building roads doesn't relieve traffic congestion. I know several towns which once were gridlocked but which now have no traffic because a bypass has been built. Buckden, for example, used to have the A1 running though it. Now, you can stroll down the middle of the road to look at the Bishop's Palace.
Yes, on to that free flowing bypass.No it hasn't relieved it, it has just moved it to elsewhere.
Why, after the IPCC report on climate change was so damning of road traffic pollution?
Which benefited everyone living in the town by relieving it of trafic gridlock, including the associated pollution you were so concerned with earlier.Yes, on to that free flowing bypass.
A cop out again with railways. Why is it always railways and never roads descoped.