I remember years of single car Class 153s on the Crewe.. the service is definitely better even with 2 cars..Are 3 car 170s still working the Worksops?
But how many want to walk up Station Road?
Skegness, Worksop and Liverpool's they are normally found on and sometimes a morning peak Matlock service.
But let's say you wanted M&S in Derbion. The distance may not be much different
About three minutes extra from the railway station I make it. So it's really going to be more about how close to the station you are at the other end of your journey.
There is a plan to enhance the walk from the station to Derbion, suggesting some building demolition from opposite the station.. At least the walk is mostly flat.
It certainly needs ‘enhancing’ it’s not a pleasant walk to/from the City Centre especially of an evening with some dubious looking characters lurking around…!
Yes, but much improved since the days it was all terraced houses with brick pavements and the houses that had drainpipes that emptied across the pavements.. Last time I walked it, there wasn't more than one beggar and it was too hot for the drug dealers I usually go a different route, not via the shops that sells high strength alcohol mind.
Yes
That is a pity. I know franchises are dead but I hoped that commitment wasn’t forgotten about. It is too busy for the current level of service. Especially at Market Rasen where on Saturday mornings people darent use the train as you frequently can’t physically get on.
I suppose with an hourly service you also risk increasing patronage by more than double as well! Which I'd argue is a good thing, but there isn't the fleet to accommodate that. In reality all former 2 car services really needed to be replaced by a 3 car 170 minimum. A 156 to a 170 is a reduction in seating capacity, more so with the new refurb.
It wasn’t that long since EMR was really a 153 railway. I was going to say how did it cope. We all know it didn’t.
I never had more than 150 people on a single 153 on the Crewe line. People made new friends getting up close and personal.. Some couldn't get off at intermediate stations and had to go to Crewe and get off on the way back.
The only 3 car 170s likely to be released in the distant future would be those with Northern, often on Hull or Harrogate or Scotland. If they had a solution for Southern their 171s could move .
It was interesting. You earned your money as a traincrew finding innovative ways to squeeze people in on busy trains, and of course there was all the fun of the fair when they broke down and needed rescuing. I still miss them though!
Could get a fair few in the toilets too, but rarely room to shut the door.
Surprised they didn't take a few seats out to create more standing room. Wasn't the seating capacity 75? I remember one evening a woman got on and said "Well this is a small train. Have you left part of it behind? But then, a 153 wasn't the smallest train..
Yes it was 75. You hoped that you didn’t get the toilet end. The other end had the 3 fold up seats to create more room. Very thought we would reminisce one of the worse trains to be created. I feel that apart from the Barton line all EMR routes should be hourly. (Not so sure about Gainsborough- Doncaster but with decent connections it may get reasonable loads)
I understand this will be an improvement. Along with Cleethorpes trains actually connecting with LNER at Lincoln. If the service remains 1x 2car train every other hour - this may not be a good idea of course.
I was sat at a table in the middle, going to the last station.
I think the last time it was hourly was pre-privatisation. I agree I remember it hourly myself. When the 155s were having the door issues they took ½ units off the route to cover for the 155s.
You would need a second unit to do that. Can't imagine EMR have enough units especially when needing to run more units on the Liverpool to Nottingham section. Also the full service is yet to be restored on the Norwich to Nottingham section, so higher priorities.
