East Coast Diversions via Carlisle

[SteveP29]

While the engineering works north of Newcastle go ahead, you'll all know that East Coast divert their services via Carlisle.

Question is, what happens to the regular services that would have normally used the WCML from Carlisle to Carstairs? do the other TOC's drop services etc?

 

[yorkie]

There's no reduction in service by other TOCs as far as I know.

 

[Liam]

Why do these services call at Carlisle? I'm not aware of any other diverted services calling at intermediate stops not on the normal route. E.g. Virgin don't stop at Blackburn or Kilmarnock when diverted via the S&C or G&SW. Do East Coast get a percentage of tickets sales for this? I can't imagine Virgin or TPX being too pleased about that if they do.

 

[Anvil1984]

Its usually for Glasgow connections and to allow passengers to transfer onto TPE / Virgin services there instead of going all the way around to Edinburgh and back

 

[andylloyd]

Why do these services call at Carlisle? I'm not aware of any other diverted services calling at intermediate stops not on the normal route. E.g. Virgin don't stop at Blackburn or Kilmarnock when diverted via the S&C or G&SW. Do East Coast get a percentage of tickets sales for this? I can't imagine Virgin or TPX being too pleased about that if they do.

They also use Carlisle for 'Crew Changes'

 

[strange6]

Carlisle was full of boarding EC HST's when I was up there on Saturday.

 

[Minilad]

How long are the diversions on for. Wouldn't mind doing the Newcastle-Carlise line on a Zing

 

[hooky3]

What happens to XC services? do they just run newcastle-plymouth?
also what happens to services to Glasgow Central and Aberdeen etc. with no XC sets near Edinburgh?

 

[Minilad]

XC has been terminating at Berwick

 

[hooky3]

(i live near craigintiney depot) yesterday i saw a XC voyger at around 2:30pm heading towards Waverley, i also saw a East Coast HST heading in that direction too at about 10:30pm?
I thought the line was shut all the way to Berwick?

 

[harz99]

its will probably be on Sundays only.

Last Saturday an EC HST passed Lockerbie Northbound at around 0800 while I was waiting the 0807 TPEX to Preston...............

 

[YorkshireRider]

How long are the diversions on for. Wouldn't mind doing the Newcastle-Carlise line on a Zing

The next 2 weekends, both sat and sun

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I thought the line was shut all the way to Berwick?

You are talking about Berwick -upon - Tweed here, are you not? My son has travelled from there to York using East Coast and then making the remaining part of the journey to Manchester Airport using First TPE.

 

[SteveP29]

What happens to XC services? do they just run newcastle-plymouth?

In my experience, when booking travel between Newcastle- Edinburgh- Newcastle, as XCDriver says, Edinburgh- Berwick runs fine, then it's a bus replacement to Newcastle, don't know about services south of Newcastle.

Being honest, I'd rather the inconvenience of doubling my journey time by going via Carlisle, at least that means I don't have to change, can stay comfortable AND, if I take my laptop, can at least watch a film, beating that still though, is the scenery on the run between Carlisle and Newcastle is at least the equal of watching the North Sea from the train.

Best of all, it'll be on an HST, god knows what I'll do when I can't travel on an HST anymore (don't like the ride quality on a Class 91, and with respect to XCDriver, I can't stand Voyagers)

 

[attics26]

In my experience, when booking travel between Newcastle- Edinburgh- Newcastle, as XCDriver says, Edinburgh- Berwick runs fine, then it's a bus replacement to Newcastle, don't know about services south of Newcastle.

Being honest, I'd rather the inconvenience of doubling my journey time by going via Carlisle, at least that means I don't have to change, can stay comfortable AND, if I take my laptop, can at least watch a film, beating that still though, is the scenery on the run between Carlisle and Newcastle is at least the equal of watching the North Sea from the train.

Best of all, it'll be on an HST, god knows what I'll do when I can't travel on an HST anymore (don't like the ride quality on a Class 91, and with respect to XCDriver, I can't stand Voyagers)

XC were terminating Berwick from the south and restarting there southbound - road replacement Berwick - Edinburgh same next two weekends