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Earlier last trains on Sunday night

Watershed

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Is there a reason why the last Tube services are earlier on a Sunday night vs other nights of the week, and why this difference varies so considerably by line and direction of travel?

For example on the Northern line the last train on a Sunday night leaves Tottenham Court Road at 23:45 northbound and 23:41 southbound vs 00:41 northbound and 00:31 southbound on Mon-Thu nights. 56 mins and 50 mins earlier respectively.

The last Piccadilly line train from Heathrow Central (beyond Acton Town) is 23:27 on Sunday vs 23:45 Mon-Thu. Only 18 mins earlier in that case.

Heading out of London the last Piccadilly line train from Leicester Square (to pick an equivalent to TCR) is 23:37 westbound and 00:18 eastbound on Sundays vs 00:30 westbound and 00:35 eastbound Mon-Thu. 53 and 17 mins earlier respectively.

With the Victoria line from Oxford Circus the last train is 00:03 northbound and 23:49 southbound on Sundays vs 00:39 northbound and 00:30 southbound Mon-Thu. 36 and 41 mins earlier respectively.

With the Jubilee line at Bond Street, the last train is 00:00 both ways on Sundays vs 00:43 eastbound and 00:36 westbound Mon-Thu. 43 and 36 mins earlier respectively.

All four lines have a Night Tube service so it's not as if the engineering access times are materially different. Yet the Northern line seems to be the worst off in terms of how much earlier the last Sunday trains are, both in absolute and relative terms.

It's also surprising that the last ex-Heathrow Piccadilly service is earlier considering that flights are scheduled to land all the way until 22:55 every night of the week. Even if you're "hand luggage only", it only takes a very small delay (as I've experienced on numerous occasions) for that to result in missing the last Piccadilly line train of the day. The last train being 17 mins earlier is significant in that context.

Fortunately the Elizabeth line runs until 00:12 every day of the week - but on Sunday nights you're limited to night buses once you reach Paddington.

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I don't suppose anyone who has contacts with LU timetabling has any insights on this?

I'm inclined to write to TfL to see what they have to say.
 
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Yes. Historically, the London Underground closed overnight to allow for maintenance and cleaning works. It also had a later start of traffic and earlier close of traffic on Sundays. This is likely to have reflected lower demand (as this would have been before Sunday opening of most shops would have been permitted). It would also be in a time when average incomes were lower, so there would have been less travel for some leisure purposes. Potentially, some employers would have avoided Sunday working at businesses and factories that now operate more continuously. The shorter traffic day on Sundays meant that Saturday and Sunday nights allowed more time and thus allow some maintenance tasks to be undertaken that cannot be completed on other nights.

In 1999, First and Last trains were reviewed ahead of the Public Private Partnership and times that the Infrastructure Providers (bidders) should allow for were set out in a ‘Standard’. [added note: The standard came into operation in 2003]. The intention was to allow passengers a reasonably memorable set of times and preserve the access for engineers to the railway during the night, while avoiding a significant increases to maintenance costs or increases in the number of closures for engineering works. This standard says that passengers should be able to reach ‘Central London’ by 06:00 Mondays to Saturdays or 07:30 on Sundays. Central London is defined as Oxford Circus for the Bakerloo, Central and Victoria lines, Leicester Square for the Piccadilly and Northern lines (Charing Cross Branch for the latter), Euston Square for the Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan lines, Westminster for the District and Jubilee lines and finally Old Street for the Bank Branch of the Northern line.

Similarly, it would be possible to reach any station starting from the West End (that is one of Charing Cross, Covent Garden, Leicester Square, Oxford Circus, Piccadilly Circus or Tottenham Court Road) departing by 00:30 Mondays to Saturdays or 23:30 on Sundays. Because these times are specific to these stations, the further away from them you are, the greater the difference between the two directions.

There was also a requirement for the first train to reach Heathrow T123 from Leicester Square by 06:35 Mondays to Saturdays and 08:00 Sundays with a last train from Heathrow T4 (and thus via T123) to Central London departing at 23:30 Mondays to Saturdays and 22:45 Sundays. This part of the standard meant that there would be a slightly later last train towards Cockfosters from the 'West End' on Sundays than required to meet the above 23:30 requirement. Some stations are reached from these West End stations by maintained connections in a small number of locations (where trains are ‘lamped out’ by a member of station staff).

There were a number of exceptions to the Standard, especially the Bakerloo line north of Queen’s Park, north of Rickmansworth on the Metropolitan line, the Hainault to Woodford loop stations and Olympia. A few more meet the first trains part, but didn’t quite fit with the last train bit including the Watford Branch of the Metropolitan line north of Harrow plus a few Central London stations that would be awkward journeys from the chosen West End stations. Heathrow T4 station has an earlier closure meaning it too does not have a service that meets the Standard.

Of course, in 2016, Night Tube was introduced on some lines making parts of the above standard redundant for the affected locations, but otherwise First and Last trains are consistent with the Standard (or better in a few cases) or they remain an exception that has applied since the Standard was introduced. On Night Tube lines, Sunday night into Monday morning is the one night of the week that still allows about an extra 60 to 90 minutes for a slightly more time-consuming task that would otherwise require a closure.
 
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Thank you so much, that's a really comprehensive explanation of the current situation and I suppose that explains why all the times are roughly concentrated around the same thresholds. Still a bit strange that the Northern line seems to fare worse than others but perhaps there is a reason for that.

I've had a look online and I can't see any reference to the 1999 first and last train standards so I might put in an FoI request to TfL to see if they can publish that, as well as anything to do with how the first & last train times have been reviewed since then, as what appropriate 27 years ago doesn't necessarily reflect today's travel demand.
 

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You’d be better off approaching either the LTM or the TfL Corporate Archives - TfL are only required to hold certain data for 7 years, and are currently turning down a lot of FOI requests for data older than this period (particularly WTTs).

There is however going to be an element of DIY with either, and a potential charge.
 

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Thanks, I have put in an FoI request. Let's see what they come back with, I'm happy to visit the archives if it doesn't turn anything up.
 

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