Ealing Broadway Revenue Block

[northken]

This evening there was a revenue block at Ealing Broadway on Platform 4 (and possibly elsewhere in the station, but I didn't see anything). This was a full block, with plastic barriers and MTR & GWR RPIs, as well as security and BTP, in attendance.

I didn't see anyone get caught, but I'm interested in how this works. Whenever a train pulled in, RPIs from both companies would inspect tickets, irrespective of what TOC was actually operating the train.

Given TfL and GWR operate separate Penalty Fare schemes, how would it work if an MTR RPI caught someone coming off a GWR train, and vice versa?

In addition, when I was there a TfL Rail service pulled in straight after a GWR one. The trains are of sufficient length that a slow walker from the first GWR carriage would arrive at the block when passengers were coming off the TfL Rail service. How would they be treated if they were bereft of ticket and went no comment to any questioning? The RPIs were laughing around with security, so I doubt they were specifically checking if there were any stragglers from the previous train.

As an aside, how trained up are the MTR RPIs on paper tickets compared to the GWR ones?

Many thanks for any answers!

 

[Clip]

They will have reciprocal agreements with each other with regards to giving someone a penalty fare as they are all agents of the railway

 

[adrock1976]

Does Ealing Broadway have automatic ticket barriers?

It does seem strange if it does, or were they deliberately switched to the open position?

 

[northken]

Does Ealing Broadway have automatic ticket barriers?

It does seem strange if it does, or were they deliberately switched to the open position?

It does have ticket barriers, which were in the normal 'closed' position. The gate line isn't right next to the platform though, it's up some stairs.

This was a block which was just on the platform, in the non-compulsory ticket area.

 

[northken]

They will have reciprocal agreements with each other with regards to giving someone a penalty fare as they are all agents of the railway

Thank you!

Just to clarify, do you mean both TOC's RPIs apply the TfL Penalty Fare scheme and the National Rail one?

 

[JonathanH]

One of the reasons why you might do this kind of block even though the station itself has barriers is people touching out on the underground platforms and getting a free ride further West. There remain Oyster readers on the LU platforms.

 

[hassaanhc]

Does Ealing Broadway have automatic ticket barriers?

It does seem strange if it does, or were they deliberately switched to the open position?

It does have ticket barriers, which were in the normal 'closed' position. The gate line isn't right next to the platform though, it's up some stairs.

This was a block which was just on the platform, in the non-compulsory ticket area.

There are ticket barriers in the ticket hall, but also standalone validators near the London Underground platforms. Today's RPI block was probably to catch those arriving on National Rail services without a ticket or touched in card and only touching in before getting on the Tube.

 

[Clip]

Thank you!

Just to clarify, do you mean both TOC's RPIs apply the TfL Penalty Fare scheme and the National Rail one?

Yes - this also happens at other joint stations in London