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Drinking beer at 9am

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Depending on the job, some certainly do say that you cannot be in your uniform (or have your company ID visible) if you are out drinking. How enforceable that is I have no idea!

Most companies have a "bringing the company into disrepute" clause in contracts, often constituting gross misconduct, so I'd imagine it is, yes.
 
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Most companies have a "bringing the company into disrepute" clause in contracts, often constituting gross misconduct, so I'd imagine it is, yes.

Of course, having a quiet pint or two after a shift is in no way "bringing the company into disrepute". But you'd still probably lose any case in such a situation because of how vague such a clause is!
 
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Having drunk in the Hamilton Hall at Liverpool Street on numerous occasions pre 8am, I'd say most of the clientele are bankers on their way to work or groups having a day in London
 

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Of course, having a quiet pint or two after a shift is in no way "bringing the company into disrepute".

It isn't, but the thing is that what a random member of the public may see is a member of uniformed railway staff drinking in a pub (with no idea of the amount consumed), and then wandering down to the station (with no idea that all they are going to do there is catch the train home).

That's the reputational damage I mean.

I've made similar comments to other adults within Scouting about the "Sun test" being a good guide to sensible behaviour - i.e. what's the worst story the Sun could make up falsely out of photos etc of what you are doing and stick on the front page. If you wouldn't be happy with such a story being published, don't do whatever it is.
 

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I use a small hotel in the suburbs or Birmingham regularly and the bulk of the guests are contractors who come in from nights and treat breakfast as their dinner. The owner doesnt mind serving them beers with their saussages if they want one and its all very friendly actually.
 

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Drinking time "etiquette" also doesn't apply when in airline lounges at airports.
This allows me to slip into this thread. Thank you. :)
I well remember sitting in Glasgow Airport in the 1990s with both my mother & brother, who are both dead, & for sure both I, & my brother were having a pint at 0800 in the bar. Cannot remember what darling mother was imbibing, probably the same. This was to be, my late mother's last holiday as it turned out.
The Chief Planner mentioned about a certain gent, I have read similar on these boards over the years from the Southern Region, where gentlemen would inmbide, in their "morning train", ala Sheena Easton.
There are SOOO many variables; I have a couple of friends who are scared of alcohol, then I have a friend who is a Welsh Highlander, we are both of Celtic stock, who can imbibe at any time.
For me, a lot of this comes down to culture, where you grew up. Some people are more relaxed with alcohol, some are more like those who have sucked lemons. Generations are becoming more relaxed as well,rather than the <dry towns>, & no licensed hostelry open on a Sunday.
We are moving, as usual, in these, our sceptered islands, glacially, to a 24 hour culture.
I DO agree with Scotrail & other providers having alcohol free times. One does like to have a dry white wine from the trolley, to start a long journey.
I do not know what the member who posted a link to AA was trying to do? Were you trying to 12, or even, 13 step here, or being [radio Clyde]??
 

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Drinking time "etiquette" also doesn't apply when in airline lounges at airports.

Funny you should mention that - most of my jaunts overseas begin with a very early flight, often earlier than 7am. With the lounges being open and tempting at £20-odd (if just to get away from the "retail experience") it's still way to early to go in and help myself to complimentary alcohol. It's something I would definitely do for afternoon flights!

As it happens, for these every early flights I simply get a fast-track ticket, turn up with an hour to spare and go straight to the gate.

Has anyone any horror stories of these lounges?
 

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Depending on the job, some certainly do say that you cannot be in your uniform (or have your company ID visible) if you are out drinking. How enforceable that is I have no idea!

Beggars up a fancy-dress do where the theme is "railways"....<D
Always go as Thomas the Tanked-up Engine I suppose!
 

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Funny you should mention that - most of my jaunts overseas begin with a very early flight, often earlier than 7am. With the lounges being open and tempting at £20-odd (if just to get away from the "retail experience") it's still way to early to go in and help myself to complimentary alcohol. It's something I would definitely do for afternoon flights!

As it happens, for these every early flights I simply get a fast-track ticket, turn up with an hour to spare and go straight to the gate.

Has anyone any horror stories of these lounges?

Not the lounges but on friday I had the pleasure of a 0715 flight from Gatwick and getting there a little early I just had a quick pint then on my flight.

its not the end of the world if people have a drink in the morning - the main problem is the dependency to which people have to have a drink when they get up.
 

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Not in the slightest. Unusual certainly but not disgusting. Drunken belligerence and rowdiness are unwelcome regardless of what time it is.

For my part I go with the three hour rule - it's ok for me to drink 3 hours after waking up
Good rule. I'll set my alarm for 5am tomorrow!
 

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Some great points here - differing cultures have different attitudes - e.g schnaps of many kinds sold in U-Bahn kiosks (someone must buy them)...

Many years ago on an Interail we got the 1st departure out of Venice for Verona and were delighted to find an open cafe for a wakenng coffee , as we drank t - a steady stream of workers came in (both sexes and all classes) slammed their money down - got a shot of grappa and an expresso - and were out in about 90 seconds. In Luxembourg we were aware of the sort of "ladies who lunch" having a breakfast beer with their (overpriced) croissants....
 
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Suppose you're off work, have just tumbled out of a Travelodge in the morning, off to Wetherspoons for a cooked breakfast... and what's the ideal beverage to go with a cooked breakfast?

Who said coffee? Bah! Tea? Pfft.

Guinness.

Guinness with your morning fry up.

That's OK isn't it?

(Asking for a friend...)
 

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Absolutely. But surely not if you have one on the way home in the morning (unless you're driving)?

Yeah, that is kind of my point. If I pop in the shop to buy some beers in the morning on my way home from work I don't expect to be judged as being like Nicholas Cage in Leaving Las Vegas by someone with a cushy 9 to 5. I don't drive by the way, lucky enough never to have had to. :D

On a slightly different note someone I work with recently arrived in work at 08:00 looking absolutely exhausted after getting home at 05:30 after a night out. If I had gone for a lunchtime pint I would have got sacked.
 
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Depends on the context really. Last year I and some colleagues hit the buffet on an overnight train in Kazakhstan from when it opened at 8 am to when the train arrived at the imaginatively named Almaty 2 station. We were drinking beer and vodka.

Then again we were just starting a 4 day R&R after 17 days on a dry mine site so we were a bit thirsty<D
 

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Not for me personally. Alcohol only appeals to me after 11:30 ish :lol: but then again I've never had a job which involves night shifts etc.
 

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Note: split from Off peak return - Newcastle to Glasgow restriction?

Who wants to drink beer that early in the morning anyway. Am I the only one who finds that disgusting.


I don't drink beer or lager myself, but I see no problem if someone wants a drink at 09:00. However, if they wanted more drinks at 12:00, 18:00 or 21:00, I would consider that they possibly had a bit of a problem.
 

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Who wants to drink beer that early in the morning anyway. Am I the only one who finds that disgusting.

Yeah, far too early for beer. Buck's Fizz or G&T are far better breakfast drinks, with G&T being particularly good for cutting the grease of a good fried breakfast. Save the beer for the afternoon.
 

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I've had a beer at 0700 after a night shift. I also had a can of lager as part fo my breakfast when I was 19. My mate thought it was disgusting, but I htought it went down quite well with an old style BR egg sandwich!

I wouldn't do it these days, though, I am a lot older and my constitution is not so strong!
 

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I also had a can of lager as part fo my breakfast when I was 19. My mate thought it was disgusting, but I htought it went down quite well with an old style BR egg sandwich!

Urgh, that WAS disgusting. Couldn't you have consumed something else at that time of day?

Like a ham & cheese sandwich?
 

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Always have a beer on the train to the football,what ever the time. Quite often does involve starting drinking pre 9am when Sky move fixtures for TV.
 

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Always have a beer on the train to the football,what ever the time. Quite often does involve starting drinking pre 9am when Sky move fixtures for TV.

Earliest I've started drinking (earliest in the morning after sleeping, rather than latest on a night out without sleeping!) would have been around 6am heading to London to watch Cardiff in the FA Cup final a few years ago! Was a good day (well apart from the result).
 

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Late to the party, I know, but could I submit for consideration: Jägerbombs. Edinburgh Airport. 7am.
 

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I'm quite partial to a cooked breakfast in Wetherspoons washed down with a pint or two of ale but it is only an occasional treat after I've been for an early morning work out at the gym and if I'm driving the ale is replaced by tea.
 
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Late to the party, I know, but could I submit for consideration: Jägerbombs. Edinburgh Airport. 7am.
Good shout :lol:

Two others and I did have a Bloody Mary once at about 9am in Luton Airport. Airports honestly are boring places.
 

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I'm very pleased that the OP thinks some aspects of my past behaviour is / was disgusting. When in my late teens / early 20s whilst traveling through Europe or attending music festivals I can think of several occasions when I had a beer at 07.00. I'm happy to report that I don't regret it and that I thoroughly enjoyed myself.
 
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