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hellojm

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i want to go to york?
is it cheaper from axminster or dorchester

is it cheaper to buy one ticket or to split the trip up?
 
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When do you want to go? Is it an adult or child? Have you a railcard? May you be eligible for a railcard? Are you happy to be tied to booked trains only?

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i have no rail card
i can go any time, even stay overnight on route
i am looking to stay for 4 days

i want to go on the nymr as well
 

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A date would be useful. If you're traveling far in advance (a maximum of 12 weeks for bookings) then buying advance tickets will probably be a good option if however you want to travel in the next few days the cheap ones will have sold out so you will be looking at more open tickets (open tickets don't restrict you to specific trains but cost more as a result, whereas advances are cheap but only valid on the booked train).
 

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Advance tickets, all singles. You are tied to nominated trains. A railcard will get you 33% off.
Add tube fare across London !

Axminster to Waterloo (SWT) and back, £12 e/w - without railcard.
Kings Cross to York (EC) and back, £13 e/w - without railcard.

You could go to Exeter and get the XC service to York - but looks pricey ! there are lots of possible splits this way, but not sure if there would be any worth doing.
 

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thank you all for the ideas of the best route to use to go to York.

The best then is Dorchester to London. then then overground via willesdem junc to Euston London to York.
it look like with work commitment, anytime in August.
 

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i want to go to york?
is it cheaper from axminster or dorchester

is it cheaper to buy one ticket or to split the trip up?
The through tickets are the same price.

It's £126.60 for a Super Off Peak Return from either station, this is a walk-up ticket, and allows travel on any train from origin to London. Restrictions apply from London to York on this ticket (the restriction out of King's Cross is valid between 0906 & 1457 inclusive and at or after 1859 M-F). Return within 1 month. (But not valid on trains that arrive at King's Cross before 1117). No restrictions Saturdays/Sundays/Bank Holidays. No restrictions between Axminster or Dorchester and London and vice-versa.

Advance Single tickets are available from £40.50 on East Coast & Connecting TOCs, this price is discounted by 10% when booking at eastcoast.co.uk. Valid at specified times, must be bought in advance, and not refundable.

It will probably be cheaper to split the journey into a combination of tickets.

If you wish to go via London, try splitting in London. You could also stay the night there. Consider using Grand Central from London to York, some trains are as cheap as £15 and you can take advantage of the £15 fares if you stay a night in London. Despite being very cheap, the £15 fares are available for purchase on board the train. Click here for details of the GC £15 offer. Alternatively East Coast offer cheap Advance fares from London to York if you book far in advance (I get £10 advances even on busy trains, when booking 12 weeks in advance) or if you do not book far in advance you can still pay a low fare if you book on a train at a time of low demand. e.g. the 22:00 London to York.

You will need to do this research yourself, looking at dates & times of your choosing, but if you get stuck or have any questions, feel free to post a reply here and ask :)

NYMR info is on the NYMR website. To get there either take the train from York to Grosmont (£12.10 for an Off Peak Day rtn valid outward at or after 0915 M-F, return any time. Note: this fare is the same to Whitby, but this ticket is not valid on NYMR trains between Grosmont & Whitby), or alternatively take the Yorkshire Coastliner to Pickering.
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then then overground via willesdem junc to Euston
That's a very long way round, and would take longer than walking from Waterloo to King's Cross!

Unless you specifically want to experience the North London Line, the TfL website may assist you in finding an alternative route across London.

If you want the quickest way from Waterloo to King's Cross, then take the Bakerloo Line to Oxford Circus then change to the adjacent platform for the Victoria Line to King's Cross. Both are Northbound.
 

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The through tickets are the same price.

It's £126.60 for a Super Off Peak Return from either station, this is a walk-up ticket, and allows travel on any train from origin to London. Restrictions apply from London to York on this ticket (the restriction out of King's Cross is valid between 0906 & 1457 inclusive and at or after 1859 M-F). Return within 1 month. (But not valid on trains that arrive at King's Cross before 1117). No restrictions Saturdays/Sundays/Bank Holidays. No restrictions between Axminster or Dorchester and London and vice-versa.

Advance Single tickets are available from £40.50 on East Coast & Connecting TOCs, this price is discounted by 10% when booking at eastcoast.co.uk. Valid at specified times, must be bought in advance, and not refundable.

It will probably be cheaper to split the journey into a combination of tickets.

If you wish to go via London, try splitting in London. You could also stay the night there. Consider using Grand Central from London to York, some trains are as cheap as £15 and you can take advantage of the £15 fares if you stay a night in London. Despite being very cheap, the £15 fares are available for purchase on board the train. Click here for details of the GC £15 offer. Alternatively East Coast offer cheap Advance fares from London to York if you book far in advance (I get £10 advances even on busy trains, when booking 12 weeks in advance) or if you do not book far in advance you can still pay a low fare if you book on a train at a time of low demand. e.g. the 22:00 London to York.

You will need to do this research yourself, looking at dates & times of your choosing, but if you get stuck or have any questions, feel free to post a reply here and ask :)

NYMR info is on the NYMR website. To get there either take the train from York to Grosmont (£12.10 for an Off Peak Day rtn valid outward at or after 0915 M-F, return any time. Note: this fare is the same to Whitby, but this ticket is not valid on NYMR trains between Grosmont & Whitby), or alternatively take the Yorkshire Coastliner to Pickering.
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That's a very long way round, and would take longer than walking from Waterloo to King's Cross!

Unless you specifically want to experience the North London Line, the TfL website may assist you in finding an alternative route across London.

If you want the quickest way from Waterloo to King's Cross, then take the Bakerloo Line to Oxford Circus then change to the adjacent platform for the Victoria Line to King's Cross. Both are Northbound.
thanks Yorke
thank you for the detailed answer.
i have had a look at grand central web site.
it shows that i have a number of options.
once again thank you
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yorkie
sorry for dropping the "i" for your name. i hate lap tops.
give me a full size key board anyday.
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my cousin wants to go, he's confined to a wheelchair. is there an overgound route between waterloo and kings cross.
 

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my cousin wants to go, he's confined to a wheelchair. is there an overgound route between waterloo and kings cross.

It is possible, but somewhat impractical, to get from Waterloo to Kings Cross using only wheelchair-accessible rail transport. You would take the Jubilee line to London Bridge and change onto the Northern Line to Kings Cross St. Pancras. There are lifts covering all three stations for the journey, but I think you would have to make the interchange at London Bridge at street level as only one entrance to each line at London Bridge is accessible.

Much easier I think would be to use the 59 bus.
 

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is there an overgound route between waterloo and kings cross.
In addition to island's suggestions, another option may be using Thameslink.

From Waterloo's main concourse, take the lift up to the Waterloo East platforms. From there, take a train to London Bridge, taking care to get one that stops at platform 5 at London Bridge. (If you can quote dates and times of travel, someone on this forum will help you identify trains which stop at platform 5.) From platform 6 on the same platform island, catch a northbound FCC service by the Thameslink route towards Bedford. Get off at St Pancras. Take 2 lifts up to the ticket barriers on St Pancras ground floor. There is then flat access across Pancras Road to Kings Cross platforms 8 - 11. Turn right along platform 8 if you need platforms 0 - 7. If it's raining, you may get less wet by taking a lift from St Pancras ground floor down to the Underground northern ticket hall. Another lift near the ticket machines in the ticket hall takes you to Kings Cross close to platforms 9 - 11.

But all this needs Thameslink services to be running. Thameslink is closed for engineering work most weekends.
 

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You don't have to worry about getting into platform 5 at London Bridge as there is ramp access at the up (northern) end of all of the Southeastern platforms there.
 

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Can I recommend you allow a minimum of 1 hour 20 minutes to cross from Waterloo to King's Cross? Yes, I know that's longer then the minimum requirement, but you don't want to be worried about making a connection (and delays do happen). It also gives you time to get any refreshments etc.

While I know many people could do the transfer in a lot less time than that, if you have to take lifts etc, you really do need to allow plenty of time.
 

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my cousin wants to go . . . .
Do you mean that two of you will be travelling? If so, then on the local Esk Valley line between Middlesbrough and Grosmont (where you connect with the NYMR), then you can simply buy on board - there's no benefit to buying in advance - and Northern offer a two-for-the-price-of-one-and-a-half deal called Northern Duo. As long as the guard realises that the two of you are travelling together, they will normally sell you this without being asked, its a friendly line as well as being very scenic!

[On the subject of being scenic, its worth jumping out at Battersby to watch the driver open a very dull modern-looking steel cabinet on the platform, only to reveal 2 ancient mechanical token machines, both of which (s)he must operate before proceeding!]
 

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thankyou for the replies. your sugestion work well with my plans of going on a Tuesday, Coming back friday. i can tie it up with mega train. ii looks like i can do it for £75. that better than the £120 mark that i have quoted the rail web site.
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i went up to north devon, the other week. they do the same process on that line
 

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You mentioned that your cousin was in a wheelchair. Does he have a Disabled Persons Railcard? If so both he and a travelling companion can get 34% off nearly all types of rail tickets, both Standard and First Class. Costs £20 for one year. A cost you will probably recoup with just this one journey to York.

Details:
http://www.disabledpersons-railcard.co.uk/

Without a railcard, wheelchair users and one companion are entitled to a 34% discount on Anytime Singles and Returns, and Anytime Day Singles. A 50% discount is offered on Anytime Day Returns. Discounts apply to both Standard and First Class.There are no discounts for wheelchair users and a companion (without a railcard) on Off Peak or Advance Purchase fares.

To get the non-railcard discounts for a wheelchair user and companion you will need to buy tickets from a staffed station or via telesales. You can't buy them online. It may also be possible to buy them onboard when joining at an unstaffed station.
 
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hellojm

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You mentioned that your cousin was in a wheelchair. Does he have a Disabled Persons Railcard? If so both he and a travelling companion can get 34% off nearly all types of rail tickets, both Standard and First Class. Costs £20 for one year. A cost you will probably recoup with just this one journey to York.

Details:
http://www.disabledpersons-railcard.co.uk/

Without a railcard, wheelchair users and one companion are entitled to a 34% discount on Anytime Singles and Returns, and Anytime Day Singles. A 50% discount is offered on Anytime Day Returns. Discounts apply to both Standard and First Class.There are no discounts for wheelchair users and a companion (without a railcard) on Off Peak or Advance Purchase fares.
yes, that was the first thing i made him get. He has used it a lot this year, BUT with the a little knowledge of the ticketing, i don't think we are getting the best prices
 

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i have no rail card
i can go any time, even stay overnight on route
i am looking to stay for 4 days

i want to go on the nymr as well

NYMR is a pain in the ar*e by train form York. You will need to go to Darlo then Boro then onto the Esk Valley Line - Grosmont OR York - Boro (Via Northallerton) - Esk Valley Line - Grosmont. There are few trains down the Esk Valley that give you a decent run on the NYMR. ( I have tried it many times form Darlo or Northallerton - Less than 40 miles but takes all day!)

your best bet would be the (urgh!:roll:) bus from York to Pickering ( could this be the Coastliner? )

it goes from right outside the station. I am sure someone more au fait with the bus routes can help you out.

You could also consider the Wensleydale line. That is easier form York. Simply a train to Northalelrton and the bus to Leeming. The timetbale dovetials nicely with the trains and you could easily have a decent run out all day. :idea:

You could also consider hiring a car form York. Well worth it to get out and explore the Moors. They are wonderful. Also if you can take a trip up into the dales. There are no finer areas in England. :D
 

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NYMR is a pain in the ar*e by train form York. You will need to go to Darlo then Boro then onto the Esk Valley Line - Grosmont OR York - Boro (Via Northallerton) - Esk Valley Line - Grosmont. There are few trains down the Esk Valley that give you a decent run on the NYMR. ( I have tried it many times form Darlo or Northallerton - Less than 40 miles but takes all day!)

your best bet would be the (urgh!:roll:) bus from York to Pickering ( could this be the Coastliner? )

it goes from right outside the station. I am sure someone more au fait with the bus routes can help you out.

You could also consider the Wensleydale line. That is easier form York. Simply a train to Northalelrton and the bus to Leeming. The timetbale dovetials nicely with the trains and you could easily have a decent run out all day. :idea:

You could also consider hiring a car form York. Well worth it to get out and explore the Moors. They are wonderful. Also if you can take a trip up into the dales. There are no finer areas in England. :D
thanks for the help.
what the transport links between malton and pickering like. + the b&b's in the area.
 
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