Dodgey sounding 465917!

[class 313]

And locos

Skodas are high quality engines - 10 minutes Watford Jn to Watford Tunnel on 1S25 one autumn....

Sounds rather hellfire, how did the couplers fare from it

 

[O L Leigh]

WSP can be a godsend at times, but it's not all that. Even with it's help it isn't always possible just to give a train "the beans" and expect it to pull away without fuss, and at such times the driver comes into his/her own.

Not so long back I had a Cl317 that wouldn't do more than 65mph in notch 4 on wet rails. I just knocked it back to notch 3 were there was less WSP intervention and the unit just powered it's way up to the linespeed of 80mph. I've even had a unit refuse to start on poor rails because of the WSP and needing to be coaxed away from a stand by notching up.

O L Leigh

 

[class 313]

319s seem to be quite poor at getting away on wet rail! Quite big slips can happen before actually getting full power from the panto car. But 319s also tend to slip at West Hampstead even in full sun + dry rail!

 

[O L Leigh]

It's not just the Cl319's, but all units from the same family with all the motors concentrated in one car have these problems. The sanders can help, but I tend to relish the challenge of getting the train moving by notching and keep the sander as a reserve in case all else fails.

The dry rail slipping you report could be a result of any number of factors. We have a new slippy spot inside Bishopsgate Tunnel on the Down Sub just at the point when you leave the 15mph restriction for Liv St station itself. I'm guessing this is due to an overactive greaser, though it's too dark to see if there is even one at that point. Either way, it certainly isn't due to the weather. Slipping can also be caused by dust (we have another slippy spot where the line runs alongside an aggregates and concrete depot) and road muck (brought onto the railway at level crossings).

O L Leigh

 

[class 313]

It's not just the Cl319's, but all units from the same family with all the motors concentrated in one car have these problems. The sanders can help, but I tend to relish the challenge of getting the train moving by notching and keep the sander as a reserve in case all else fails.

The dry rail slipping you report could be a result of any number of factors. We have a new slippy spot inside Bishopsgate Tunnel on the Down Sub just at the point when you leave the 15mph restriction for Liv St station itself. I'm guessing this is due to an overactive greaser, though it's too dark to see if there is even one at that point. Either way, it certainly isn't due to the weather. Slipping can also be caused by dust (we have another slippy spot where the line runs alongside an aggregates and concrete depot) and road muck (brought onto the railway at level crossings).

O L Leigh

Ah I see, thanks for explaining that! But I think its because its a Low Ad area.

 

[westcoaster]

what line is it cl313 at west hampsted the down fast is the only place you get a bit but i think that is because of the oil/diesel from hst's and 222

 

[class 313]

what line is it cl313 at west hampsted the down fast is the only place you get a bit but i think that is because of the oil/diesel from hst's and 222

Well there's a low adhesion sign when heading north so I guess it could be both.

 

[driver9000]

142s are horrendous on a wet rail - there have been times where even notch 1 has been too much power and gained a maximum of 8mph in a 4 mile stretch