DBS put yet more Shunters up for sale.

[NXEA!]

Just to let you all know, DBS have made 23 08's and 10 09's available for sale, make of it what you will.

 

[fgwrich]

Here the official Email...



ITEMS FOR DISPOSAL:

APRIL 2011



DBSR has the following locomotives available for sale:

LOCOMOTIVES


Loco No. Location

1 08389 Toton
2 08393 Toton
3 08500 Doncaster
4 08514 Doncaster
5 08580 Bescot
6 08593 Toton
7 08646 Margam
8 08662 Wigan
9 08664 Doncaster
10 08685 Immingham
11 08709 Walsall
12 08783 Toton
13 08798 Toton
14 08842 Bescot
15 08844 Bescot
16 08854 Margam
17 08866 Doncaster
18 08877 Wigan
19 08905 Bescot
20 08909 Toton
21 08918 Toton
22 08921 Toton
23 08951 Toton
24 09006 Doncaster
25 09011 Margam
26 09017 Toton
27 09020 Margam
28 09022 Toton
29 09023 Immingham
30 09024 Eastleigh
31 09107 Doncaster
32 09203 Crewe IEMD
33 09205 Tees


These locomotives will be sold as seen and as and where lying. The successful bidders will be required to

Remove the Locomotives from their present site at their own expense and without any assistance from DBSR.

To register your interest for these locomotives in accordance with the “Guide to making an offer for a locomotive” please visit our website by clicking here.

http://www.rail.dbschenker.co.uk/disposals/disposals.html

 

[alanf]

Wots the going rate for one of these? I bet it's a lot more than they cost when new

Alan

 

[route:oxford]

Two re-geared 08s or 09s to top 'n tail and a couple of Mk2s - how's that for a Pacer replacement?

 

[Bon Accord]

I wonder if it's possible to fit a Valenta into an 08?:roll:

 

[Nym]

Two re-geared 08s or 09s to top 'n tail and a couple of Mk2s - how's that for a Pacer replacement?

Thats not as stupid as it sounds, IIRC 14s used to work passenger trains on the branches, and such a layout could be suitable for an ELR C'Ford to Bury Bolton St service, as the'll still be mainline registered.

 

[WL113]

08709 Walsall??

Walsall where exactly? The station? PW siding? Cement depot? Tasker St yard?

Where is this Jocko??

 

[Smudger105e]

This is the current TOPS locotion for this engine

08709 trfd at 1300 22/11 on trfd 0t00t arr walsallft 1301 22/11

 

[Helvellyn]

I wonder if GBRf will be interested in the 09s? Their higher speed could make them attractive to buyers, depending on their condition of course.

 

[Smudger105e]

I wonder if GBRf will be interested in the 09s? Their higher speed could make them attractive to buyers, depending on their condition of course.

They are faster (27.5 mph for an 09, 15 for an 08) but the payoff is they aren't as good haulers, hence why DBS are getting rid.

The condition is variable tbh, some are wrecks, some are running locos, needing little work to get them back to good condition.

 

[ACE1888]

Two re-geared 08s or 09s to top 'n tail and a couple of Mk2s - how's that for a Pacer replacement?

Sounds good to me, in our area, I used to imagine an 08 with 2 Mk1's on the St Ives branch, would have been around the early 1980's, never told anyone about it though...until now

 

[Simon Poole]

08709 Walsall??

Walsall where exactly? The station? PW siding? Cement depot? Tasker St yard?

Where is this Jocko??

My thoughts as well, i been passed through Walsall hundreds of times and NEVER seen a gronk there! seen a few at Bescot!

or unless it's buried underneath Walsall Station and we don't know about it?

 

[Simon Poole]

I wonder if this will help find 08709?

photo credit taken by justindperkins

ps: i thought this was going to added to my other post!

 

[Rugd1022]

Last time I worked through Bescot (late March I think) I'm sure it was still stabled in front of the Down Tower in the yard, sandwiched between a couple more 08s and the remaining 37s. There's nowhere to stable it Walsall station either, I doubt very much it would have been left in the bay platform.

 

[Simon Poole]

I doubt very much it would have been left in the bay platform.

They only got room to fit an LM 170/5 or 170/6 with an LM Class 323 on the bay platform

 

[route:oxford]

Ok, so one or two people have "smiled" at the idea of a couple of 08/09s being regeared to work in a push-pull formation with a few Mk2s...

So realistically, without going overboard with costs - could an 08/09 be regeared to operate at say 50-60mph (with a corresponding reduction in haulage pwer).

 

[Bon Accord]

I've no doubt it could be possible somehow, but the question is would it be particularly stable?

 

[route:oxford]

I've no doubt it could be possible somehow, but the question is would it be particularly stable?

Are the 08s known for their track skipping bounciness?

I did wonder about just the single "Co" layout, but then Staedler units operate with a single "Bo" unit albeit that is located within the unit rather than drawing or pushing.

 

[Hydro]

Are the 08s known for their track skipping bounciness?

I've seen a couple at full tilt on poor track and they bounce un-nervingly. They don't seem to handle poor track very well at all, the Eastleigh ones used to derail fairly often.

 

[Rugd1022]

Are the 08s known for their track skipping bounciness?

I did wonder about just the single "Co" layout, but then Staedler units operate with a single "Bo" unit albeit that is located within the unit rather than drawing or pushing.

I sign 08s and 09s, although I've not been on one for quite a while, but I can say that they're more than a bit lively at their respective maximum speeds, especially if they've not had any works attention for some time. Having coupled wheels with outside rods makes them waddle from side to side a fair bit anyway, a hangover from steam days engineering this, confirmed when I had a cab ride in a GW Pannier Tank a few months ago!

It may be possible to gear them for higher speeds but the physical motion of the outside rods would cause serious vibrations at anything over their normal maximum. Since starting on the railway in 1982 I think I've been on something like 30 of them, and no two seem to be alike, of all the older diesel classes thay are by far the most characterful to actually work on.

Wouldn't mind one myself one day...

 

[GearJammer]

So how much (roughly) would an 08/09 shunter cost to buy, one that would require minimal work to get it going again? Im not seriously considering buying one so don't tell me about finding a home and transporting it etc, just curious as to what they cost?

 

[Simon Poole]

Where is 08709? is it at Walsall still or somewhere else?

 

[cj_1985]

So how much (roughly) would an 08/09 shunter cost to buy, one that would require minimal work to get it going again? Im not seriously considering buying one so don't tell me about finding a home and transporting it etc, just curious as to what they cost?

have seen this asked on another forum... i think it was on wnxx...
the response posted on whichever forum it was... said that a class 08 or 09 would probably cost as much as a class 37... cant remember who posted it, what site it was posted on, and whether the 08-vs-37 cost was based on non operational examples or on operational locos

 

[Dreadnought]

Where is 08709? is it at Walsall still or somewhere else?

It is at Bescot.

 

[ACE1888]

If I had the money I would buy 08644, was 'our' 08 at Pz for years...Still in service with FGW at Laira though!
Anyway, here's me around 1982 at Penzance station for the masses 'amusement' ...

 

[Simon Poole]

If I had the money I would buy 08644, was 'our' 08 at Pz for years...Still in service with FGW at Laira though!
Anyway, here's me around 1982 at Penzance station for the masses 'amusement' ...

I woudln't mind buying a gronk! Class 08 Shunter, guessing they going roughly around 25K? i start saving up