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Cyclist almost gets hit by train after jumping barriers

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If he got himself killed, the news report would likely have said 'Joe Bloggs was a loving family man..'. Out of consideration for surviving relatives it would likely have omitted the obvious fact that he was also a c*ck.
 

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Interesting how no one, including Jeremy Vine, makes any attempt to stop this moron.

At that location could the train be clearly seen approaching when he trys to go across the barrier?
 

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Jeremy Vine wasn't there. Bystanders did remonstrate with him. He's not a cyclist, he's a bloke with a bike.
 

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If you watch with the sound up you hear someone trying to warn him about a train, and they just get a mouthful of abuse back.
 

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But why make the driver and everyone involved in the aftermath have to suffer for this cockwomble?

I wouldn't wish that on the Driver. Perhaps just a glancing blow and a leg off, or something.... Then he could be a 'lucky miraculous survivor' and no longer an idiot with a pushbike.
 

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I feel that a hardening of public attitudes regarding this sort of thing would help, especially when it ends fatally.
A bit less "loving father killed by train, three children left fatherless" and a bit more "idiot killed by own stupidity"

When they survive, as in this case, I feel that prosecution should be the norm, and I would hope that the courts impose a substantial fine. Jail should be considered for any repeat offenders.
 

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He's not a cyclist. He's just a man who rides a bike.

Interesting - I think I see what this post might be getting at. However, I am curious to know what Gemz91 would suggest the attributes of a true cyclist might be. Feel free to include references to the Highway Code, traffic lights and pavements. ;)

Is a similar distinction proposed for motorists? I seem to encounter a distressingly high incidence of people "who just drive a car" and appear to have minimal powers of anticipation or knowledge of the rules of the road and zero consideration for other road users.
 

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I feel that a hardening of public attitudes regarding this sort of thing would help, especially when it ends fatally.
A bit less "loving father killed by train, three children left fatherless" and a bit more "idiot killed by own stupidity"

When they survive, as in this case, I feel that prosecution should be the norm, and I would hope that the courts impose a substantial fine. Jail should be considered for any repeat offenders.

I think people would draw their own conclusions and if BTP manage to identify this individual I would think that there is every likelihood that he will be prosecuted. Of course he may have mental health issues and it's probably best not to jump to conclusions.
 

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Interesting - I think I see what this post might be getting at. However, I am curious to know what Gemz91 would suggest the attributes of a true cyclist might be. Feel free to include references to the Highway Code, traffic lights and pavements. ;)

Is a similar distinction proposed for motorists? I seem to encounter a distressingly high incidence of people "who just drive a car" and appear to have minimal powers of anticipation or knowledge of the rules of the road and zero consideration for other road users.

People who wear lycra are cyclists.

People who don't wear lycra are bike owners.

Maybe that.

;)
 

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i don't care for proper grammar HE IS NOT A CYCLIST HE IS A IDIOT WITH A BIKE! Why Why Why any one would do this I will never know there is a bridge at this crossing why not use it.
 

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People who wear lycra are cyclists.

People who don't wear lycra are bike owners.

Maybe that.

;)

A cyclist is someone who is riding a bicycle.

The attempt to frame cyclists as only those cyclists who never behave irresponsibly is likely as a response to those who succumb to the sweeping generalisation fallacy, and use one irresponsible cyclist as an excuse to demonise all cyclists (i.e. the Daily Mail-like demonisation of a minority tactic). I ride a bicycle occasionally, and have no connection whatsoever to the pillock who jumped the barriers, why should I, or any other cyclist, be held responsible for his behaviour? Cyclists, like motorists, pedestrians, politicians, and rail staff are all individuals, and the behaviour of one bears no relation to the behaviour of any other.
 

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A cyclist is someone who is riding a bicycle.

The attempt to frame cyclists as only those cyclists who never behave irresponsibly is likely as a response to those who succumb to the sweeping generalisation fallacy, and use one irresponsible cyclist as an excuse to demonise all cyclists (i.e. the Daily Mail-like demonisation of a minority tactic). I ride a bicycle occasionally, and have no connection whatsoever to the pillock who jumped the barriers, why should I, or any other cyclist, be held responsible for his behaviour? Cyclists, like motorists, pedestrians, politicians, and rail staff are all individuals, and the behaviour of one bears no relation to the behaviour of any other.

Nailed it. Have a :cake:
 

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Mmm, as a tangential thought, if one cyclist is at fault not all cyclists are, if one OAP car driver behaves stupidly all OAPs should be taken off the road, do I detect a strange anomaly here?
 

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The reason "cyclist" in the headline winds people up is his mode of transport is not relevant to the incident. I expect he drives a car too so "Motorist almost gets hit by train after jumping barriers" would be just as accurate. For all we know he's just pushing a bike (might not even be his) to his car. He tries to mount the bike on the crossing (not sure why as he would have had another barrier to negotiate) but at all other points in the video he's just a pedestrian with a bike.

A better and neutral headline would be "Man almost gets hit by train after jumping barriers" but of course that doesn't get the clicks they want.

As you can imagine the tabloid comment sections are full of the usual "don't pay road tax", "jump red lights", "above the law" twaddle that all cyclists get tarred with because one clearly disturbed bloke with a bike does something stupid at a level crossing.
 
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Was Gemz91's post not meant to be ironic? Because I read it as ironic.
 

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The reason "cyclist" in the headline winds people up is his mode of transport is not relevant to the incident. I expect he drives a car too so "Motorist almost gets hit by train after jumping barriers" would be just as accurate. For all we know he's just pushing a bike (might not even be his) to his car. He tries to mount the bike on the crossing (not sure why as he would have had another barrier to negotiate) but at all other points in the video he's just a pedestrian with a bike.

A better and neutral headline would be "Man almost gets hit by train after jumping barriers" but of course that doesn't get the clicks they want.

As you can imagine the tabloid comment sections are full of the usual "don't pay road tax", "jump red lights", "above the law" twaddle that all cyclists get tarred with because one clearly disturbed bloke with a bike does something stupid at a level crossing.

That happens when "motorists" do stupid things. :|
 
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