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SYA88

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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone had a bit more insight in the tfl CSA fixed term contracts. I've been offered a job for a fixed period but at the same time I've been offered a job at another railway company on a permanent basis. But now I am confused as to what to do. I've always wanted to get into tfl and now that I possibly have I'm not sure if it is worth it. It has more benefits and much better pay say about 8k more. But it's for a fixed period. Is it likely they will extend it? Why are they doing soooo many fixed term contracts?

I would highly appreciate any insight in to this.

Thank you.
 
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A fixed term contract may be extended/renewed but there is no guarantee.
Do you want to work for the other company full time or do you want to work for TfL for (potentially) just one year?

Not a difficult decision in my book!
 

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Do what you think is best for you.

However I am with 455 on this one - full time permanent role would win out everytime against a fixed term contract- no matter how good the money and benefits are.
 

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Put it this way: at the end of your contract term, would you rather have a job on the railway, or be unemployed?

No contest.
 

SYA88

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Thank you 455, clip and Scotsman.
I'm curious if anyone has more info on TFL csa jobs, is there any particular reason they're doing fixed term contracts as opposed to the regular contracts
 

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Thank you 455, clip and Scotsman.
I'm curious if anyone has more info on TFL csa jobs, is there any particular reason they're doing fixed term contracts as opposed to the regular contracts
Yes; because (as you have probably seen in the news) the stations function at LU is currently undergoing a massive re-org. Whilst CSAs are out of scope, the establishment (ie. number of positions) at various locations will change. Until this is all complete however existing vacancies will need to be filled, but as the company doesn't know at present who will be needed to work where, and at what grade (the 'new world' has two CSA grades, the present one, and a new junior grade on less money), so these new jobs are to help support "business as usual" in the interim, and also to support training and implementation of the new structure.
 

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I've just started as a CSA on the old contracts (fortunately) and i'm in the talent pool for FCC (now govia) for a drivers position. For me, i wouldn't completely rule out the contract CSA role. As Mojo mentioned there are wholesale changes afoot and from what i can work out, they will always hold on to good people.
As mentioned above, there are no guarantees but, once you've got your foot in the door there is access to other opportunities within TFL. As an example, there's a rumour around that there's quite a considerable shortfall of tube drivers and there will be another internal recruitment drive shortly which is usually fed from the CSA pool which may leave full time positions open. Obviously nothing is confirmed but i wouldn't imagine that TFL would want a large portion of their frontline staff on contracts. It's less appealing and you're likely to alienate a better calibre of individual regardless of holidays/pay/pensions etc etc.
I just wouldn't rule it out completely that's all.
 

safwan15

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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone had a bit more insight in the tfl CSA fixed term contracts. I've been offered a job for a fixed period but at the same time I've been offered a job at another railway company on a permanent basis. But now I am confused as to what to do. I've always wanted to get into tfl and now that I possibly have I'm not sure if it is worth it. It has more benefits and much better pay say about 8k more. But it's for a fixed period. Is it likely they will extend it? Why are they doing soooo many fixed term contracts?

I would highly appreciate any insight in to this.

Thank you.

Hi SYA88,

I have my TFL CSA assessment day this Thursday and I was wondering what i should expect on the day. Could you please give me some information about the day. P.S Congrats on your job offer.

Thank you
 

SYA88

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Thanks mojo and Jim.
Jim the thing is I know tfl would possibly open a lot of doors etc but I'm a bit concerned about the position as its fixed term and the other job offer I have is from network rail which is permanent. But tfl seems like more of a comfortable job as it's easier to understand but then with tfl having this two grade thing and hiring a lot of people and cutting a lot of jobs at the same time I feel a bit like I want to do because it's a company I've always wanted to go in but I alsi feel like I would be putting myself in a position where I have no future in tfl after 15 months if this 2 grade thing flops. I know personally I am a very hard worker etc. that doesn't bother me as much as the having no job after 15 months.

Also good luck with the driver position
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I've just started as a CSA on the old contracts (fortunately) and i'm in the talent pool for FCC (now govia) for a drivers position. For me, i wouldn't completely rule out the contract CSA role. As Mojo mentioned there are wholesale changes afoot and from what i can work out, they will always hold on to good people.
As mentioned above, there are no guarantees but, once you've got your foot in the door there is access to other opportunities within TFL. As an example, there's a rumour around that there's quite a considerable shortfall of tube drivers and there will be another internal recruitment drive shortly which is usually fed from the CSA pool which may leave full time positions open. Obviously nothing is confirmed but i wouldn't imagine that TFL would want a large portion of their frontline staff on contracts. It's less appealing and you're likely to alienate a better calibre of individual regardless of holidays/pay/pensions etc etc.
I just wouldn't rule it out completely that's all.

Hi SYA88,

I have my TFL CSA assessment day this Thursday and I was wondering what i should expect on the day. Could you please give me some information about the day. P.S Congrats on your job offer.

Thank you


Safwan, best of luck, I found the role play to be pretty simple and straight forward. If your calm, apologetic and give the customer options and suggests you'll be fine. make sure you read the brief carefully. If it says a certain line has disruptions know that you will need to find alternative routes from your given station to somewhere on that line. You can suggest things like ohh I will call and let a colleague at another station know you are on the train and your cabin and they can help you on the other side etc. you need to let the customer know they can get help throughout they're journey and have a hassle free journey to wherever they're going.
written and numeracy tests are very simple and straight forward.
Interview was simple, the lady went through my employment history, that asked some competency questions like when I exceeded a customers expectations, when I had done something satisfactory and went home feeling proud, how I keep myself updated and informed about what's happening at work. Things like that. So just think up a few situations for yourself to use and you will be fine. It's a one on one interview so nothing to worry over.
 

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Hi guys,

I have got a telephone interview coming up for this job in two weeks time. I would like to know what types of question should I expect? Any help would be much appreciated.


Thank you.
 

Lillylocke

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Hi SYA88,
Could you please give me some examples of the written and numeracy test? What kind of questions they asked you in the test? Thanks in advance!
 

a729

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Thanks mojo and Jim.
Jim the thing is I know tfl would possibly open a lot of doors etc but I'm a bit concerned about the position as its fixed term and the other job offer I have is from network rail which is permanent. But tfl seems like more of a comfortable job as it's easier to understand but then with tfl having this two grade thing and hiring a lot of people and cutting a lot of jobs at the same time I feel a bit like I want to do because it's a company I've always wanted to go in but I alsi feel like I would be putting myself in a position where I have no future in tfl after 15 months if this 2 grade thing flops. I know personally I am a very hard worker etc. that doesn't bother me as much as the having no job after 15 months.

Also good luck with the driver position
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Safwan, best of luck, I found the role play to be pretty simple and straight forward. If your calm, apologetic and give the customer options and suggests you'll be fine. make sure you read the brief carefully. If it says a certain line has disruptions know that you will need to find alternative routes from your given station to somewhere on that line. You can suggest things like ohh I will call and let a colleague at another station know you are on the train and your cabin and they can help you on the other side etc. you need to let the customer know they can get help throughout they're journey and have a hassle free journey to wherever they're going.
written and numeracy tests are very simple and straight forward.
Interview was simple, the lady went through my employment history, that asked some competency questions like when I exceeded a customers expectations, when I had done something satisfactory and went home feeling proud, how I keep myself updated and informed about what's happening at work. Things like that. So just think up a few situations for yourself to use and you will be fine. It's a one on one interview so nothing to worry over.


Hi,

How long did TfL take to reply to you after the interview?
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Hi SYA88,
Could you please give me some examples of the written and numeracy test? What kind of questions they asked you in the test? Thanks in advance!

Data interpretation such as checking validity of tickets and basic spelling and grammar corrections of a given text.

The role play is the hardest part to pass.
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Yes; because (as you have probably seen in the news) the stations function at LU is currently undergoing a massive re-org. Whilst CSAs are out of scope, the establishment (ie. number of positions) at various locations will change. Until this is all complete however existing vacancies will need to be filled, but as the company doesn't know at present who will be needed to work where, and at what grade (the 'new world' has two CSA grades, the present one, and a new junior grade on less money), so these new jobs are to help support "business as usual" in the interim, and also to support training and implementation of the new structure.

Will the new CSAs be fully 'operationally trained'? If so I imagine it would mean that being promoted from CSA2 to CSA2 wouldn't be too hard if we were trained to the same standard as the old CSA's soon to be CSA2's?

I had a look at the Spring 2014 refined Fit4thefuture proposals which made interesting reading.
 
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