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Crossrail concession won by MTR

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Simon11

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Hi all,

Finally confirmed, as expected that MTR have got the franchise. Well done to everyone involved working hard in the bid :D Was an ideal first franchise for MTR to win and gives a new operator on the scene to increase competition.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28361782

The £1.4bn contract to run the new Crossrail franchise through London from 2018 has been awarded to Hong Kong-based MTR Corporation, Transport for London (TfL) has announced.

MTR was one of four companies short-listed to bid for the contract late last year.

The other train companies bidding to run the franchise included National Express, Arriva and French transport firm Keolis, through the Go-Ahead Group.

MTR is expected to employ 1,100 staff.

The rail franchise will employ around 400 drivers and there will be more than 50 apprenticeships for people from communities along the route.

The huge Crossrail project, costing around £15bn to build, is the first complete new underground line in London since the Victoria line was built more than 30 years ago.

The line will see trains running from Reading in Berkshire to the west of the capital and as far east as Shenfield in Essex, as well as linking to south London.

It is also one of the most ambitious transport construction projects undertaken in London since the original underground was built over 150 years ago.

Crossrail is expected to reduce passenger overcrowding on underground trains in central London and to reduce cross-London journey times.

TfL said it expected Crossrail to support the equivalent of 55,000 full-time jobs around the UK.

New trains will begin entering service in 2017. The route through Canary Wharf, the City and the West End will open in late 2018, with the full route running from late 2019.

MTR will start running services from the end of May 2015 between Liverpool Street and Shenfield, when it takes over the existing stopping services currently operated by Abellio Greater Anglia.


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In amongst all the high-level financial and operational detail, let's not lose sight of the most pressing question for enthusiasts:

What livery has been chosen? :lol:
 

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MTR has won the Crossrail franchise.
Highlights:
MTR will employ 1,100 staff with up to 850 new posts including 400 drivers and 50 apprenticeships.
They will make franchise payments of £1.4bn over the 8 year concession.

Another bid lost by Arriva.
They haven't won anything in the UK since being taken over by DB.
I assume the 250 not-new staff will be existing FGW and GA people currently working local trains into Paddington/Liverpool St, transferring to CR when it starts up.
 

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In amongst all the high-level financial and operational detail, let's not lose sight of the most pressing question for enthusiasts:

What livery has been chosen? :lol:

TFLs ;)

3eer400018-xxxx_crossrail_exterior-black_front_20140203_window_031.jpg
 

bnm

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This is a concession awarded by TfL, not a franchise.

Someone should also tell the BBC. :roll:
 

ic250

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Why does it need to be a 'concession' or 'franchise' run by someone else's state owned railway company?! Why can't it just be run by TFL?!

More madness from the DafT, itching to privatise something.
 

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Why does it need to be a 'concession' or 'franchise' run by someone else's state owned railway company?! Why can't it just be run by TFL?!

More madness from the DafT, itching to privatise something.

Nothing to do with DfT, itching or otherwise.
 

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How come it's got a black front in that render? Surely it'll be yellow in the flesh if it's travelling in the wild with other traffic? (Assuming that it's not new track to Reading et al)
Is it going to be a similar rule as to how the LU trains that go on NR tracks can be red fronted?
 

swt_passenger

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How come it's got a black front in that render? Surely it'll be yellow in the flesh if it's travelling in the wild with other traffic? (Assuming that it's not new track to Reading et al)
Is it going to be a similar rule as to how the LU trains that go on NR tracks can be red fronted?

OTOH it is far more likely that the bloke who drew the picture just made a mistake?
 

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They will make franchise payments of £1.4bn over the 8 year concession.

TfL will be paying the £1.4bn to MTR (subject to various performance regimes and penalties), not the other way round. However TfL keeps all the revenue, as with London Overground, thus avoiding the horrendous problems of working out which share of Oyster and Travelcard revenue belongs to whom.
 

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Why does it need to be a 'concession' or 'franchise' run by someone else's state owned railway company?! Why can't it just be run by TFL?!

More madness from the DafT, itching to privatise something.

I wonder this to... they do an excellent job with LU.
 

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As a scrutineer of official statements, looking for the get-out clauses that may be later iinvoked, I notice this speaks of services 'linked to South London' rather than operated directly there. Does Abbey Wood dare not speak its name, or is there the exciting possibility that Crossrail trains may even extend to the late Linda Smith's home town, Erith?

I think we should be told.
 

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Another bid lost by Arriva.
They haven't won anything in the UK since being taken over by DB.
I assume the 250 not-new staff will be existing FGW and GA people currently working local trains into Paddington/Liverpool St, transferring to CR when it starts up.

And to a lessor extent the once ''mighty'' National Express who haven't won anything new (retaining C2C gives them 1 up on Arriva DB, but it's merely a retention and not new) since the East Coast debacle from 2007 to 2009.

MTR understood the problem, how to expand the job, offered, and won. This is how it works folks. Listen, understand, test upgrades, package, deliver.

Exactly. I'm quite pleased with this one as out of the 4 bidders, MTR has quite possibly the most experience in this field of high metro / outer suburban operation from their own metro systems in Hong Kong.
 

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TfL will be paying the £1.4bn to MTR (subject to various performance regimes and penalties), not the other way round. However TfL keeps all the revenue, as with London Overground, thus avoiding the horrendous problems of working out which share of Oyster and Travelcard revenue belongs to whom.

Your right, original press release was ambigious only refering to £1.4bn contract value.
 

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As a scrutineer of official statements, looking for the get-out clauses that may be later iinvoked, I notice this speaks of services 'linked to South London' rather than operated directly there. Does Abbey Wood dare not speak its name, or is there the exciting possibility that Crossrail trains may even extend to the late Linda Smith's home town, Erith?

I think we should be told.

Dartford and Ebbsfleet have been mentioned, but nothing firm. I think the train spec includes provision for third rail operation to be added later.
 

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Dartford and Ebbsfleet have been mentioned, but nothing firm. I think the train spec includes provision for third rail operation to be added later.

Ah, Ebbsfleet, a station looking for a passenger to use it. I'd be very surprised (but delighted) if third rail were added to the spec as it seems to be so out of favour (like trams, someone in the future will realise it has an important part to play still).
 

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Dartford and Ebbsfleet have been mentioned, but nothing firm. I think the train spec includes provision for third rail operation to be added later.

Safeguarded as far as Hoo Junction, but no plans at the moment.
 

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Housing developments might actually get underway on a big scale at Ebbsfleet if Crossrail were extended there. Javelin services are way too expensive for many locals and St Pancras too far away from where most commuters want to go, thus negating the speed factor.
 

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As a scrutineer of official statements, looking for the get-out clauses that may be later iinvoked, I notice this speaks of services 'linked to South London' rather than operated directly there. Does Abbey Wood dare not speak its name...

I don't see a major problem here. They might just be attempting (albeit badly) to describe the point that the links into SE London are not direct, but via a change at Abbey Wood onto the existing network.

In other words most of the SE branch of Crossrail is not actually in the SE as it is understood on the railway map...
 
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