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SuspectUsual

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Moeen promoted to number 3, presumably the Bazball manual requires stuff like this.

As it is, he’s out for 5 missing a straight ball and getting clean bowled, and it gives the Aussies a bit more confidence.

Why can’t they just play proper cricket?
 

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Throwing it away. Again. Harry Brook: Now is you time son.

England are only ever a whisker away from that traditional English summer sighting, a batting collapse.
here we go..................
Moeen promoted to number 3, presumably the Bazball manual requires stuff like this.
but who plays three? Brook isn't a number 3. Root maybe but he wants to play 4. Bairstow? Stokes?
 

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Bairstow is clearly very average with the gloves and isn't really adding a huge deal with the bat. England's problems have started with their selections this series.
 

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Of all the Bazball stuff over the last year sticking Ali at number 3 isn't that crazy, he's more than capable. The problem is that in the likely event we lose this then that decision will be one of the main focuses in the post mortem. Batting and in particular decision making has been poor right down the order.
 

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Need to get our strongest team out for the next two. You win test matches by taking wickets. The batsmen need to show more brains but we need to look at the keeping situation and bowling situation.
 

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Need to get our strongest team out for the next two. You win test matches by taking wickets. The batsmen need to show more brains but we need to look at the keeping situation and bowling situation.

Indeed, same team as now, but, drop the prima donna wannabe Oscar nominee Broad...permanently, include Anderson, whose Test days are surely coming to a graceful end albeit it would be more than nice to see 701 wickets after his name...

" squeaked home
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I wouldn't class a 3 wicket win as "squeaking home "....
 

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Indeed, same team as now, but, drop the prima donna wannabe Oscar nominee Broad...permanently, include Anderson, whose Test days are surely coming to a graceful end albeit it would be more than nice to see 701 wickets after his name...

" squeaked home "

I wouldn't class a 3 wicket win as "squeaking home "....

Yep. Need to be ruthless with Anderson and Broad where appropriate. Brilliant servants that they've been this is a results business and it's about this current series. If that's the last we've seen of Anderson then so be it. We can ill afford another Alec Stewart situation where a past it player was apparently bigger than the outcome of the series. Again, I'm not doubting the absolute passion or love of playing for their country of Stewart, Broad and Anderson. The latter two of course may have some say in the direction of this series. However if they aren't part of our future then let's not lose too much sleep if thats their goose cooked.
 

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" squeaked home "

I wouldn't class a 3 wicket win as "squeaking home "....
We made hard work of it. Staring down the barrel at 171-6

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drop the prima donna wannabe Oscar nominee Broad.
5-103 in this test
5-164 in 2nd test
6-132 first test.

he is the top wicket taker in the series so far!

He will do for me
 
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5-103 in this test
5-164 in 2nd test
6-132 first test.

he is the top wicket taker in the series so far!

He will do for me

And consistently removing a couple of their top order nearly every innings. Any call for Broad to be removed is kneejerk.
 

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And consistently removing a couple of their top order nearly every innings. Any call for Broad to be removed is kneejerk.
He certainly justifies his place, stand up and be counted and all that. Robinson, on the other hand...... He may be destined to go down as another Steven Finn, a shooting star whose brightness fizzled out quickly, So long as the Aussies stick with Warner, Broad should stay.
 

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Good win for England to keep the Ashes alive. Got a bit tight towards the end with wickets falling but go it done in the end.
 

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Phew.

A 3-0 lead to the Aussies would have been a massively lopsided scoreline, as all 3 games could have gone either way.

Woakes and Wood both had excellent matches on their return to the side.
 

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I'd play him at a batsman. I think he's still worth trusting.
Behave yourself he's shocking both with the bat and gloves.

Stokes should bat 3 he's one of our 2 best technicians and if he can't bowl he's wasted at 6. Foakes keeps and bats 7 Woakes, Wood and Broad 8 9,10.
Jimmy wouldn't play for me, if he's fit I'd play Tongue. I'm not a massive Ali fan but we have probably limited our options. I'd bat him 6.
 

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And consistently removing a couple of their top order nearly every innings. Any call for Broad to be removed is kneejerk.
As long as Australia keep picking Warner, we should keep picking Broad!
 

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I'd put Stokes lower down for a run chase.
Broad may have to be rested for the next Test, being 37. If so, I would bring in Anderson for him and Tongue for Robinson. Oh, and Foakes - please - for Bairstow.
 

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Surely Australia have to drop Warner sooner or later? Great player but with consistent failures with the bat of late and his record against Broad, he looks like their weak link.
He's basically on his farewell lap. Wants to bow out after the Sydney test.



As expected the poor bowling plans to the tail come back to bit Australia in the backside.
Unlike England however we won't be blaming everyone else on earth.
 

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He's basically on his farewell lap. Wants to bow out after the Sydney test.



As expected the poor bowling plans to the tail come back to bit Australia in the backside.
Unlike England however we won't be blaming everyone else on earth.
No, you'll just blame the Martians :p
 

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He's basically on his farewell lap. Wants to bow out after the Sydney test.



As expected the poor bowling plans to the tail come back to bit Australia in the backside.
Unlike England however we won't be blaming everyone else on earth.
What Sydney test? Won't you discard him after his upcoming failures at Old Trafford and the Oval? You Aussies are going soft! :smile:
 

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What Sydney test?
The one in their next home series, presumably.
Won't you discard him after his upcoming failures at Old Trafford and the Oval? You Aussies are going soft! :smile:
They have, historically, not been sentimental about it. Ian Healy, for example, was unceremoniously ditched when the selectors decided Adam Gilchrist was a better bet, even though Healy was planning to retire at the end of the next series.
 

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What Sydney test? Won't you discard him after his upcoming failures at Old Trafford and the Oval? You Aussies are going soft! :smile:
The traditional new years test. He's an New South Welshmen and they seem to get away with a lot more than say a Victorian would. He really should be dropped but won't. Boland and Murphy will be made scapegoats instead.

Warner's been a flat track bully his entire career. Plays Australia well while being absolutely useless elsewhere.

England: We want to win the Ashes.
Also England: We will pick Johnny B for the 4th test.
 
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