Covering cuttings

[flypie]

Many years ago part of a cutting was covered over in Liverpool to allow the expansion of Liverpool University. Now there is a plan to develop a knowledge quarter to the east of the university. See http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/revealed-billion-pound-liverpool-masterplan-12050818 and right in the middle is the continuation of the cutting.
How many similar cuttings are there in the UK which could be covered in the same way? Any idea of how much it would cost?

There are some photographs of the cutting being covered here http://peterirate.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/the-green-line.html

It also included a new station.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

One obvious example is the Gerrards Cross Tesco tunnel, which they didn't quite get right at the first attempt!

 

[flypie]

Mentioned in the blog, quite a bit shallower than the Lime Street cuttings.

 

[Cliveblackpool]

About 30 years ago, a multi-story car park was built in the cutting,on the main line, Plymouth side of Mutley Tunnel. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.3...4!1sGaZ3Q1eK4Xn8ssZ9oQffDg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

[edwin_m]

The cutting in Belper is covered by a supermarket among other things.

 

[Bald Rick]

One obvious example is the Gerrards Cross Tesco tunnel, which they didn't quite get right at the first attempt!

"You shop, we drop"
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Any idea of how much it would cost?
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Generally, if you have to ask, you can't afford it.

 

[lejog]

Perhaps not strictly built over a cutting, but the shopping centre at Wimbledon is known locally as the Fridge on the Bridge, which always makes me smile when I'm on a train under it.

 

[Harbornite]

A small part of the cutting at Spring Road Station in Birmingham was built over with this car park...

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2458835

 

[matthewmacleod]

The western end of Stratford box – the cutting in which Stratford International station is located – seems to have been constructed with the intention of building over in the future. You can see some of the structural elements in this image: http://c8.alamy.com/comp/B8J3GD/loading-concrete-lining-segments-onto-works-train-using-overhead-gantry-B8J3GD.jpg

It's possible that this technique has been used for some other reason though, I'm not really sure.

 

[flypie]

I think it is just a technique used to stop the walls falling in, it is perhaps cheaper than building stronger walls. Stations are usually not closed in as it means extra safety if is classed as underground.

Conway Park has similar structures. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway_Park_railway_station
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About 30 years ago, a multi-story car park was built in the cutting,on the main line, Plymouth side of Mutley Tunnel. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.3...4!1sGaZ3Q1eK4Xn8ssZ9oQffDg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The looks well done.

 

[jopsuk]

The western end of Stratford box – the cutting in which Stratford International station is located – seems to have been constructed with the intention of building over in the future. You can see some of the structural elements in this image: http://c8.alamy.com/comp/B8J3GD/loading-concrete-lining-segments-onto-works-train-using-overhead-gantry-B8J3GD.jpg

It's possible that this technique has been used for some other reason though, I'm not really sure.

If you brace the walls it makes it easier to have them vertical.

 

[OwlMan]

The NIA was built over the Birmingham-Wolverhampton line at the end of New Street West Tunnel.

 

[Mag_seven]

The country end of London Liverpool St?

 

[Tio Terry]

Newmarket Tunnel is what's known as cut and cover, it could have been a cutting but was covered and made in to a tunnel. I'm told this was something to do with exercising race horses and was a condition to granting the parliamentary act to build the railway.

 

[flypie]

A small part of the cutting at Spring Road Station in Birmingham was built over with this car park...

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2458835

Car parks do seem the ideal use, no problems then with the vibration and noise.

 

[Dr_Intoxicated]

The triangle between the circle and district lines between Earls court and Gloucester road was built over back in the 1960s when I was a lad.

It was the West London Air terminal built on a concrete raft above the tracks

https://rbkclocalstudies.wordpress.com/2013/06/06/forgotten-buildings-the-west-london-air-terminal/

 

[dk1]

The Olympic Park was developed over part of the High Meads Loop.

 

[edwin_m]

I'm in Barcelona at present, where practically every railway in the built-up area has been put underground.

 

[NotATrainspott]

Glasgow Queen Street was to have its western (LL) and northern (HL) cuttings covered over fully as part of the Buchanan Galleries extension work.

 

[3141]

I haven't checked, but I think the Great Central's line to Marylebone dug up part of Lords cricket ground to build the tunnel and then covered it over again. But of course that's different from building over an existing tunnel.

Another London example was the diversion of the Metropolitan Line between Aldersgate (now renamed Barbican) and Moorgate along a different route, which was then built over as part of the Barbican development.

 

[snowball]

Most of the Metrpolitan, District and Circle lines are cut and cover, of course.

 

[ilkestonian]

And didn't they build the English Channel over the Channel Tunnel?

 

[DaveNewcastle]

And didn't they build the English Channel over the Channel Tunnel?

Using a technique known as "the parting of the seas", a skill not much used these days.

 

[jopsuk]

*downs a few beers and gets the crayons out* see what you want to do with the London rail network is bury the lot. Seperate out the Metro lines (especially in south London), add express tracks to the outer suburban lines (6 track Great Eastern to Shenfield, Great Northern to Welwyn, four track Chiltern, 6 track GW to somewhere etc) and also bury all of the all Underground and current Overground (needs rebranded). Bingo. Loads of surface space opened up for development and also an entirely weather proof metro rail network seperated from outer suburban and Intercity. Anyone got, ohh, £1trillion spare?

Obviously do the same for other metro/suburban networks such as Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle, Glasgow.

 

[snowball]

*downs a few beers and gets the crayons out* see what you want to do with the London rail network is bury the lot.

Including where they're on viaduct?

 

[colchesterken]

Ilford , they built shops next to the station over the tracks towards the electric depot

 

[rebmcr]

Nobody seems to have noticed that OP was asking for potential cuttings that are suited to covering, not a list of every existing cut-and-cover design that someone can think of...

 

[HowardGWR]

Nobody seems to have noticed that OP was asking for potential cuttings that are suited to covering, not a list of every existing cut-and-cover design that someone can think of...

Well, I did, but saw which way the land was lying (p.i.). I think the cutting between Lawrence Hill and Dr Days Junction could be interesting to a developer and would also have a station to serve it.

 

[jopsuk]

Including where they're on viaduct?

I've been at the gin so, yeah, even those. viaducts aren't weatherproof.

 

[catfordbags]

The snow tunnels on Rannoch moor are effectively covered cuttings but in this case are covered with rusty corrugated tin.