Cornwall Metro funding approved

[Brush 4]

I think you meant 'a substantial increase in usage of Par-Newquay and the intermediate stations'. Not sure what an uptick is but, probably found on deer or hedgehogs.

 

[Lurcheroo]

I think you meant 'a substantial increase in usage of Par-Newquay and the intermediate stations'. Not sure what an uptick is but, probably found on deer or hedgehogs.

Uptick : a small increase or slight upward trend.

 

[snowball]

Uptick : a small increase or slight upward trend.

I think it's more specific than that. It's when a graph of something against time takes an upward turn. So an upward trend that has been continuing for a long time would not be an uptick.

My impression is that journalists, politicians, economists etc have recently taken to using "uptick" where they might previously have said "upturn".

 

[Meerkat]

I think it's more specific than that. It's when a graph of something against time takes an upward turn. So an upward trend that has been continuing for a long time would not be an uptick.

My impression is that journalists, politicians, economists etc have recently taken to using "uptick" where they might previously have said "upturn".

It’s management/consultant speak - they could just say increase but that wouldn’t sound clever enough.

 

[The Ham]

It’s management/consultant speak - they could just say increase but that wouldn’t sound clever enough.

According to the OED it was first used in 1950 in a American newspaper, it's implied that it's a word which is used in America more than the UK - which is perhaps why it has the feel of management speak.

The Cambridge dictionary's examples sound a little more American, like "Movies sometimes see an uptick in revenue after an Oscars win."

 

[Lurcheroo]

I think it's more specific than that. It's when a graph of something against time takes an upward turn. So an upward trend that has been continuing for a long time would not be an uptick.

My impression is that journalists, politicians, economists etc have recently taken to using "uptick" where they might previously have said "upturn".

I just googled the definite of ‘uptick’ and posted exactly what it said. Of course these things are open to interpretation in language, but that is the definition.

 

[zwk500]

According to the OED it was first used in 1950 in a American newspaper, it's implied that it's a word which is used in America more than the UK - which is perhaps why it has the feel of management speak.

Presumably it's related to the Stock Ticker, which US Journalists and Politicians keep very close eyes on.

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It’s management/consultant speak - they could just say increase but that wouldn’t sound clever enough.

To be fair, 'uptick' is usually used to mean a quite specific sharp increase over a short period of time (forming a tick on a graph), whereas 'increase' can be slow or fast and over any period of time.

 

[Meerkat]

Presumably it's related to the Stock Ticker, which US Journalists and Politicians keep very close eyes on.

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To be fair, 'uptick' is usually used to mean a quite specific sharp increase over a short period of time (forming a tick on a graph), whereas 'increase' can be slow or fast and over any period of time.

I find it’s mainly used by professional bluffers, and has now been picked up by all sorts of people trying to sound more expert than they really are.
As you may have gathered I hate it!
but anyway back to Cornwall - Are there any plans to improve Newquay station when the extra platform is put in? The whole block could really do with redevelopment!

 

[Brush 4]

It has only been around for about a year or so, and TV reporters/correspondents say uptick all the time now. Sheep mentality, copying others so as to be seen to be trendy. Increase was fine before, it is fine now.

The ugly 60's or 70's shop block currently hiding Newquay station needs to be demolished and the station opened up with a plaza and seats and perhaps a Coffee stall or similar. It is behind the single storey section but, all of it is ugly.

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[snowball]

I just googled the definite of ‘uptick’ and posted exactly what it said. Of course these things are open to interpretation in language, but that is the definition.

It is *a* definition. Different sources will give different definitions. Just googling doesn't guarantee the most carefully worded one.

I've been seeing it for several years.

 

[jeemac]

I never though my original use of the term 'uptick' would have been so contentious! I just want my next journey to Newquay to be better

 

[Lurcheroo]

I never though my original use of the term 'uptick' would have been so contentious! I just want my next journey to Newquay to be better

Haha, I thought the same lol! Well fingers crossed it will see some improvements soon.

 

[D Williams]

Mid-Cornwall Metro to go ahead​

With the recent change of government and associated funding announcements made by our new chancellor, there has been some confusion as to whether the proposed 'Mid Cornwall Metro' scheme will still go ahead.

Thankfully, Noah Law, the new labour MP for St. Austell and Newquay has said that yes - the scheme will continue as planned.

The scheme will enable coast-to-coast trains to run to and from Newquay to Falmouth along with a more regular service to Newquay, via the installation of a passing loop on the Goss Moor and the reinstatement of a second platform at Newquay. It would also see signalling upgrades carried out, digital ticket barriers installed at various locations, and an accessible footbridge installed at Par.

 

[rower40]

Mid-Cornwall Metro to go ahead​

With the recent change of government and associated funding announcements made by our new chancellor, there has been some confusion as to whether the proposed 'Mid Cornwall Metro' scheme will still go ahead.

Thankfully, Noah Law, the new labour MP for St. Austell and Newquay has said that yes - the scheme will continue as planned.

The scheme will enable coast-to-coast trains to run to and from Newquay to Falmouth along with a more regular service to Newquay, via the installation of a passing loop on the Goss Moor and the reinstatement of a second platform at Newquay. It would also see signalling upgrades carried out, digital ticket barriers installed at various locations, and an accessible footbridge installed at Par.

I despair about the press’s confusion between “regular” and “frequent”.
One train a week is regular. 12 trains a day is more frequent than 6, but not necessarily more regular- there will still (probably) be a 6-8 hour gap overnight with no train.

 

[DynamicSpirit]

I despair about the press’s confusion between “regular” and “frequent”.
One train a week is regular. 12 trains a day is more frequent than 6, but not necessarily more regular- there will still (probably) be a 6-8 hour gap overnight with no train.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought the Cornwall metro was intended to provide a clockface hourly service to Newquay. That would be both more frequent and more regular than the current non-clockface service, so 'regular' would therefore be correct.

 

[yorksrob]

Its certainly good news that its not been squashed, anyway.

 

[Meerkat]

Mid-Cornwall Metro to go ahead​

With the recent change of government and associated funding announcements made by our new chancellor, there has been some confusion as to whether the proposed 'Mid Cornwall Metro' scheme will still go ahead.

Thankfully, Noah Law, the new labour MP for St. Austell and Newquay has said that yes - the scheme will continue as planned.

The scheme will enable coast-to-coast trains to run to and from Newquay to Falmouth along with a more regular service to Newquay, via the installation of a passing loop on the Goss Moor and the reinstatement of a second platform at Newquay. It would also see signalling upgrades carried out, digital ticket barriers installed at various locations, and an accessible footbridge installed at Par.

Is this MP an authority on the status of the project?

 

[zwk500]

Mid-Cornwall Metro to go ahead​

With the recent change of government and associated funding announcements made by our new chancellor, there has been some confusion as to whether the proposed 'Mid Cornwall Metro' scheme will still go ahead.

Thankfully, Noah Law, the new labour MP for St. Austell and Newquay has said that yes - the scheme will continue as planned.

The scheme will enable coast-to-coast trains to run to and from Newquay to Falmouth along with a more regular service to Newquay, via the installation of a passing loop on the Goss Moor and the reinstatement of a second platform at Newquay. It would also see signalling upgrades carried out, digital ticket barriers installed at various locations, and an accessible footbridge installed at Par.

Is there a link to this press release/announcement/article? Just interested if there's more detail in the body.

 

[BrianW]

Is this MP an authority on the status of the project?

He is a 'newbie' MP with a local, Oxbrdge and finance background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Law

I understood that transport projects were under ministerial review in the light of the 'challenging' financial context: https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/transport-infrastructure-review, so this 'announcement' seems somewhat premature. He may be right of course.

 

[nanstallon]

Let's face it, the cupboard is bare. A likely compromise may be that the Newquay branch gets the improvements, so that at least an hourly service on the branch to Cornwall's most popular summer resort will happen, but running through trains to Falmouth may fall by the wayside - and rightly so IMHO.

 

[D Williams]

Let's face it, the cupboard is bare. A likely compromise may be that the Newquay branch gets the improvements, so that at least an hourly service on the branch to Cornwall's most popular summer resort will happen, but running through trains to Falmouth may fall by the wayside - and rightly so IMHO.

Ah provision needs to be made for the twenty or so people who may want to travel from Newquay to Falmouth every year or so!

 

[nanstallon]

Ah provision needs to be made for the twenty or so people who may want to travel from Newquay to Falmouth every year or so!

I'm one of those 20 - surely there are more than 20 eccentric enthusiasts in Falmouth!

 

[jamieh27]

I'm one of those 20 - surely there are more than 20 eccentric enthusiasts in Falmouth!

It be quicker on train than bus for a start bus would take well over an hour or maybe two hours to get to Newquay where as the train will be less than that. Its so annoying how everyone is moaning about train reversing at Par when some metro trains do! like Bradford Interchange, Manchester Victoria, Georgemas Junction, Coombe Junction Halt etc.

 

[sor]

as someone comes from one of the branch lines, this is welcome news. There's an argument for some of the parts of the project to go ahead even if the full package was cancelled, so it might as well just be completed as intended.

I can't say I'd be desperate to get to Falmouth specifically but I'll probably give it a go. I know it's a tired argument but even if there aren't hordes of people in Newquay who are desperate to get to Falmouth and vice versa, there is a convenience factor in being able to get to, say, Truro without having to get a slower bus or bus/train combo. Or in my case, I'd consider getting the train all the way in rather than having to get a lift to a main line station as I do now

 

[Xavi]

Mark Hopwood confirmed this week on LinkedIn that Cornwall Metro is funded and proceeding.

Mark Hopwood CBE on LinkedIn: I have pulled together a video about my trip out from Didcot to Cornwall… | 68 comments

I have pulled together a video about my trip out from Didcot to Cornwall and back on Friday/yesterday which ends with a twist. It's a longer video than normal… | 68 comments on LinkedIn

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[sor]

He is a 'newbie' MP with a local, Oxbrdge and finance background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Law

I understood that transport projects were under ministerial review in the light of the 'challenging' financial context: https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/transport-infrastructure-review, so this 'announcement' seems somewhat premature. He may be right of course.

wasn't this more about the Restoring your Railway stuff, in particular projects that weren't anywhere close to being shovel ready and thus did not have money allocated to them. The MCM is well past that point.

 

[Busaholic]

Ah provision needs to be made for the twenty or so people who may want to travel from Newquay to Falmouth every year or so!

The twenty or so who hate the idea of a frequent, regular, cheaper, faster (usually!) bus service between the two, used now by some all year round, many of them students in Penryn, and lots more in the summer holidays I'd imagine. Despite my name, I'm not anti-train, in fact preferring train travel in most cases.

 

[Bletchleyite]

The twenty or so who hate the idea of a frequent, regular, cheaper, faster (usually!) bus service between the two, used now by some all year round, many of them students in Penryn, and lots more in the summer holidays I'd imagine. Despite my name, I'm not anti-train, in fact preferring train travel in most cases.

If you are looking at end to end journeys you're missing the point of this sort of through service, which is about multiple overlapping local journeys. How many people travel from Euston to Watford Junction on London Overground? How many from Southport to Stalybridge?

 

[yorksrob]

If you are looking at end to end journeys you're missing the point of this sort of through service, which is about multiple overlapping local journeys. How many people travel from Euston to Watford Junction on London Overground? How many from Southport to Stalybridge?

Indeed. Falmouth - St Austell and Truro - Newquay flows will be better served by this (not to mention presumably Falmouth students to Newquay with bulky luggage such as surf boards !).

 

[RPI]

If you are looking at end to end journeys you're missing the point of this sort of through service, which is about multiple overlapping local journeys. How many people travel from Euston to Watford Junction on London Overground? How many from Southport to Stalybridge?

Precisely, the amount of seemingly intelligent people on here who literally think that the purpose of this scheme is for people only travelling from Newquay through to Falmouth docks is astonishing.