Corby Re-opening

[PhilipW]

Is the line between Glendon South and Corby single or double track nowadays ?

--- If double, is Corby station going to have two platforms or just a single one which will allow some reverse way working ?

--- If single, is space being left to allow for double track to be re-instated and a second platform if the need ever arose ?

 

[mrcheek]

If Corby reopens, then what will the new answer be to the question "Whats the largest town in Europe without a working railway station?"?

 

[Nym]

Bury?

 

[Metroland]

Leigh, Gosport, Peterlee, Washington, Dunstable.

Corby was actually the largest place is Europe without a Railway station, no wonder it's such a horrible place.

 

[gordonthemoron]

Doesn't the line from Sunderland to Hartlepool go through Peterlee?

I used to work in Corby, there are a lot of other reasons why it's so grim, other than the lack of a railway station, e.g. pubs with the furniture bolted to the floor

The area around Corby is rather nice though

 

[Metroland]

Yep, the town (which is a new town designated in 1948 ) was served by Horden, which was closed in 1964. The town's population is now around 31,000. Perhaps a re-opening, with direct London services by Grand central?

 

[gordonthemoron]

NXEC could run services from Corby via Peterborough to KX

 

[PhilipW]

All very interesting but back to the original.

The contract for Corby station has been signed and building work will start soon for a hopeful re-introduction of train services this December. I am interested to know the the track layouts between there and Kettering.

 

[bluenoxid]

If Corby reopens, then what will the new answer be to the question "Whats the largest town in Europe without a working railway station?"?

Ripon, Wetherby...

Bury does have a rail station Whether you could consider it a proper one or not is debatable (and not for this thread)

 

[class 313]

Dunstable.

I do believe Flitwick is the station for Dunstable.

 

[A0]

All very interesting but back to the original.

The contract for Corby station has been signed and building work will start soon for a hopeful re-introduction of train services this December. I am interested to know the the track layouts between there and Kettering.

To answer your question:

From memory, the two westerly tracks through Kettering continue northwards, twin track to Market Harborough and beyond.

The two easterlys merge into one north of Kettering station and have a link across to the Harborough lines.

From there, all the way through to Corby is largely single track, though there is a passing loop within Corby itself.

I think it's back to twin track over Harringworth, but can't be 100%. Went for a ride over it a couple of years ago when MML were diverting their Sunday services that way because of engineering between Kettering & Leicester.

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I do believe Flitwick is the station for Dunstable.

Nope - you're a few miles out.

The closest station for Dunstable is probably Leagrave, after that Luton (central not Airport), then Harlington or Leighton Buzzard.

Flitwick's after Harlington going north.

 

[class 313]

Nope - you're a few miles out.

The closest station for Dunstable is probably Leagrave, after that Luton (central not Airport), then Harlington or Leighton Buzzard.

Flitwick's after Harlington going north.

Thought it was one of the two.

 

[A0]

Relevant to this post - construction of Corby's new station commenced today - was covered on BBC1 Look East and can be seen again on BBC Website.

 

[Nym]

if they built it all the way round, it would go one closer to a London Ring Rail...

 

[A0]

I don't think an 'outer London' ring route is a viable proposition. Even with highish line speeds it's going to be slow.

I'm guessing you mean running from Cambridge - Peterborough - Corby - Bedford - Bletchley - Oxford or similar. That's going to take forever if you went Cambridge - Oxford that way. Be much quicker to go into London KX and across to Paddington esp if you get fast trains all the way.

Have to confess I think terminating at Corby is a strange idea though. Would make more sense to extend the service north, either to Peterborough via Stamford, Leicester via Melton Mowbray or even reopening the old 'direct' route into Nottingham, thereby speeding up London - Nottingham journeys.

To have Corby as an 'Inter City' terminus seems a bit bizarre.

 

[Nym]

Well, it wouldn't have been intended for regular passenger service, primeraly freight access to the WCML, and pepole would use it to avoid the undergound, I know I would

 

[A0]

Well, it wouldn't have been intended for regular passenger service, primeraly freight access to the WCML, and pepole would use it to avoid the undergound, I know I would

Freight access isn't an issue - from the East Cost ports traffic either runs via Peterborough if the Midlands or North is the final destination on the WCML or via Stratford / NLL if it's the southern part.

The "outer loop" as described would make little impact on freight.

Whilst some may use it to "avoid the underground" - again I have to wonder what journeys you'd have in mind.... the majority of journeys from East Anglia to the Midlands can be done either via London or via Peterborough / Leicester / Nuneaton / Birmingham. Don't forget that Peterborough, Bedford and MK are all key points on the fare tables so it's unlikely there'd be a huge cost saving if this was the alternative to via London.

 

[Nym]

Freight access isn't an issue - from the East Cost ports traffic either runs via Peterborough if the Midlands or North is the final destination on the WCML or via Stratford / NLL if it's the southern part.

The "outer loop" as described would make little impact on freight.

Whilst some may use it to "avoid the underground" - again I have to wonder what journeys you'd have in mind.... the majority of journeys from East Anglia to the Midlands can be done either via London or via Peterborough / Leicester / Nuneaton / Birmingham. Don't forget that Peterborough, Bedford and MK are all key points on the fare tables so it's unlikely there'd be a huge cost saving if this was the alternative to via London.

When I had to get to hatton cross, I'd have traveled round to the Heavy lines in that area to either use as little of the LUL as possible or just avoid it completly...

Although for that: Manc - Watford Junc - Weilsden Junc - Clapham Junc - Harrow or Feltham, then a bus, cos I realy realy realy hate using the LUL

Or Wilsden - Richmond, then follow the above

 

[theblackwatch]

Ripon, Wetherby...

Bury does have a rail station Whether you could consider it a proper one or not is debatable (and not for this thread)

Ripon is actually a city!

 

[class 313]

When I had to get to hatton cross, I'd have traveled round to the Heavy lines in that area to either use as little of the LUL as possible or just avoid it completly...

Although for that: Manc - Watford Junc - Weilsden Junc - Clapham Junc - Harrow or Feltham, then a bus, cos I realy realy realy hate using the LUL

Or Wilsden - Richmond, then follow the above

Man Picc -> Watford Jnc -> Harrow.

Man Picc -> Watford Jnc -> Clapham Jnc -> Feltham.

Those two routes are the best for the destinations you gave.

 

[Nym]

Man Picc -> Watford Jnc -> Harrow.

Man Picc -> Watford Jnc -> Clapham Jnc -> Feltham.

Those two routes are the best for the destinations you gave.

Can you get Watford - Harrow direct?

 

[class 313]

Can you get Watford - Harrow direct?

Yes, London Midland and Southern both operate Harrow fast services from Watford Junction.

 

[Nym]

Yes, London Midland and Southern both operate Harrow fast services from Watford Junction.

then I'll guess theres a bus between Harrow and Hatton cross?

 

[Ascot]

Is the line between Glendon South and Corby single or double track nowadays ?

--- If double, is Corby station going to have two platforms or just a single one which will allow some reverse way working ?

--- If single, is space being left to allow for double track to be re-instated and a second platform if the need ever arose ?

Between Kettering North and Corby North it's single
Between Manton and Corby North it's double

Also you can look here for other parts at the business plan http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse documents/StrategicBusinessPlan/R19 - MML.pdf

 

[Nym]

They might be double tracking it though

Would it be a good or a bad idea if it's going to be a commuter service, to electrify to corby and have FCC run there as an extention of the bedford runs?

 

[Ascot]

They might be double tracking it though

Would it be a good or a bad idea if it's going to be a commuter service, to electrify to corby and have FCC run there as an extention of the bedford runs?

Far too expensive to slap some wires all those miles for 3 stops in that part of the woods. Might as well do the whole MML as that's growing nicely

 

[Nym]

wouldn't be able to do the robin hood forsest line though, no OHL in an AOONB IIRC

 

[A0]

They might be double tracking it though

Would it be a good or a bad idea if it's going to be a commuter service, to electrify to corby and have FCC run there as an extention of the bedford runs?

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

The last thing Wellingborough / Kettering need is to be made an extension of the already heavily loaded FCC Thameslink line.

As I've pointed out elsewhere, this would probably not lead to better journey times - the Meridians are pretty quick and unless FCC went for Desiros or similar, there's no way a 319 would keep the same timings.

Second - the 319s are bl00dy uncomfortable compared to the Meridians / HSTs.

Third - London journey times would almost certainly drop because it's unlikely FCC would run a 'Bedford + 1 stop service' so we'd either end up with stops at all points to Luton (3 stations) or worse all stations to St Albans.

Leave it as it is. It works very nicely at the moment, just as long as something is done about the proposal to remove on Leicester stopper an hour....

 

[Ascot]

wouldn't be able to do the robin hood forsest line though, no OHL in an AOONB IIRC

What Lines that?

 

[Nym]

the one going through sherwood forest