Conservative Party after the election

[uglymonkey]

I think they will either think they were not right wing/populist/authoritarian enough to win and move hard right in the mistaken belief that's where "their" voters and public have gone. Or come a bit to their senses, split into a mild centre right party and a "loon" etc hard right party. In the meantime Labour and Libdems fight for the .001% wriggle room in the centre. I should of course be declared president for life in the meantime and free bananas for everyone

 

[MotCO]

I think the problem was that Sunak did not do anything - I can't think of a single thing he did. Inflation is down, but that was going to happen anyway - the price hikes caused by high energy costs have worked their way out of the system, and would have done whoever was in power. If he has got so many good ideas that he wants to implement in the next parliament, why hasn't he done them already?

What the Conservatives need is a conviction politician with a clear vision. Apart from Boris's "Let's get Brexit done", there have not been any clear visions from any leader of any party. I'm not sure what Sunak's or Starmer's visions are. The Greens, SNP and Reform are more focussed, but not necessarily popular. The problem is, I can't see who in the Conservatives is visionary, and when they are down to 50 - 100 MPs, the gene pool is so much smaller.

 

[edwin_m]

I think the problem was that Sunak did not do anything - I can't think of a single thing he did. Inflation is down, but that was going to happen anyway - the price hikes caused by high energy costs have worked their way out of the system, and would have done whoever was in power. If he has got so many good ideas that he wants to implement in the next parliament, why hasn't he done them already?

What the Conservatives need is a conviction politician with a clear vision. Apart from Boris's "Let's get Brexit done", there have not been any clear visions from any leader of any party. I'm not sure what Sunak's or Starmer's visions are. The Greens, SNP and Reform are more focussed, but not necessarily popular. The problem is, I can't see who in the Conservatives is visionary, and when they are down to 50 - 100 MPs, the gene pool is so much smaller.

Just about the only thing Sunak did was the Windsor Framework, which cleaned up one of the Brexit messes Boris got done and averted a possilble major crisis in the form of a trade war with the EU. But avoiding something that might have happened, that few were aware of at the time, isn't going to get much credit with the average voter - especially when it's just fixing what your predecessor broke.

 

[BrianW]

If they do merge, they could call themselves the Conservative Reform Amalgamated Party

If Suella Braverman loses out on the leadership, I think she would join Reform.

After the Labour or Tory loss of office in 1979, 1997 & 2010, it took the parties to elect new leaders from the start of the 2nd terms of opposition to lead them back to government (Tony Blair from 1983, David Cameron from 2001 and - assuming he gets in - Keir Starmer from 2015). So, if the trend continues, the next Tory Prime Minister will not become an MP until the 2028-29 General Election.

Talking of which, could the next General Election be on May 3rd 2029?

Suella Braverman would make an appropriate leader of the new party; total ****

 

[Donny Dave]

If they do merge, they could call themselves the Conservative Reform Amalgamated Party

As long as they don't introduce mandatory Special High Intensity Training, we should be OK....