-
Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!
Coal Falling Off
- Thread starter sonic2009
- Start date
- Status
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R
RailUK Forums
The guard is at fault for not checking on th load, whilst preparing the train before allowing it on the main line
The train should go inside and the coal trucks examined as having coal bouncing into an HST at 125mph windscreen will take the HST's drivers head off.
The tops sheet/ drivers slip should be stamped by the person who prepared the train.
SACKING OFFENCE. This is a major incident.
The train load must be examined as soon as poss to rectify the loading problems
The train should go inside and the coal trucks examined as having coal bouncing into an HST at 125mph windscreen will take the HST's drivers head off.
The tops sheet/ drivers slip should be stamped by the person who prepared the train.
SACKING OFFENCE. This is a major incident.
The train load must be examined as soon as poss to rectify the loading problems
Last edited:
cf111
Established Member
- Joined
- 13 Nov 2012
- Messages
- 1,393
Attachments
No good all these 'what its' theories. The wat its didn't happen so focus on the facts of what did happen.
Whilst RA's concern any what ifs in a proper manner then the focus on the thread should be about what has happened and what the ramifications of such an indecent will be.
Whilst RA's concern any what ifs in a proper manner then the focus on the thread should be about what has happened and what the ramifications of such an indecent will be.
Crack yes, but I would say there isn't enough mass to penetrate a windscreen on this occassion.
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Drama queen much?
Not sure you have the entitlement to make those accusations in the public domain.
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Drama queen much?
Not sure you have the entitlement to make those accusations in the public domain.
Last edited:
PaxVobiscum
Established Member
Sounds painful! But why would any driver have his backside towards the windscreen?
I can relate worse, we had a driver by the name of Wee Willie W*n**r! He would sometimes leave deposits on the control panel.
Some would pick their nose & leave it under the desk. When you changed ends you would have a nice green line on your breeks.
One driver drove in the scud. He got sacked!
Guards can be just as bad. Fortunately I do not have to work with them too.
Back to your point though it is usually the passengers who moon to be fair. Of course the yanks take it to extreme
Hi,
A piece of ballast would be far more worrying to passengers and other railstaff working on the network, as well as any substance's blowing in people's faces.
All loads/weights should be checked and train integrity, If i was prepping a train, ballast, gypsum etc, i use to take a brush just to clear the wagon tops (not under OHL tho) because at the end of the day your signature is on the paperwork!!!!!.
Cheers
A piece of ballast would be far more worrying to passengers and other railstaff working on the network, as well as any substance's blowing in people's faces.
All loads/weights should be checked and train integrity, If i was prepping a train, ballast, gypsum etc, i use to take a brush just to clear the wagon tops (not under OHL tho) because at the end of the day your signature is on the paperwork!!!!!.
Cheers
Ploughman
Established Member
Many a time on renewal sites were spent ballast is being loaded to wagons for disposal we were obliged to check the train for any loose material that may possibly fall off.
This included making sure the top edges of wagons were swept off and all the little ledges on the body cleared.
Track panels had to be cleaned off when being loaded as well.
Any heaped or overloaded wagons had to be rectified, nothing above the body was allowed.
Once this was done then the train examiner would sign the form allowing the train to depart.
If he decided it was not fit to go then it stayed on site until it was.
If we had to do that 5 years ago why can't it be done now? Or is it because it is a major freight customer and the system is fully automated for loading and no misloading can occur?
This included making sure the top edges of wagons were swept off and all the little ledges on the body cleared.
Track panels had to be cleaned off when being loaded as well.
Any heaped or overloaded wagons had to be rectified, nothing above the body was allowed.
Once this was done then the train examiner would sign the form allowing the train to depart.
If he decided it was not fit to go then it stayed on site until it was.
If we had to do that 5 years ago why can't it be done now? Or is it because it is a major freight customer and the system is fully automated for loading and no misloading can occur?
Hasn't this got just a little out of hand?
Presumably it was power station coal which is little more than dust anyway.
I'm guessing it was a windy day and the train would have been going at a fair lick through Tamworth HL. It just happens.
I saw it happen scores of times when I was on the P/Way and you know the best thing to do?
Turn your back and close your eyes till it's gone past.
GB - yes, drama queens exactly. You could say it's been blown up out of all proportion!
Presumably it was power station coal which is little more than dust anyway.
I'm guessing it was a windy day and the train would have been going at a fair lick through Tamworth HL. It just happens.
I saw it happen scores of times when I was on the P/Way and you know the best thing to do?
Turn your back and close your eyes till it's gone past.
GB - yes, drama queens exactly. You could say it's been blown up out of all proportion!
No, all down to the personnel on site,
It is up to you to check the weight of each wagon loaded from the list, if you have a wagon overloaded in weight although the loaded material is not above the rave it is probably due to a loading error or damp material.
You got to think the worse possible scenario, derailing train to derail another train at speed.
Your name is on the slip and signed for.
I now have terrible images of nude, self-pleasuring drivers working TransPennine routes :cry:
hock:hock:hock:I have personally examined trains from Ballast sites for over 25 years, 7years of examing the LPG trains out of Humber Oil, and I cant be doing with folk who think they know it all. I have seen overloaded spoil trucks every Saturday/Sunday. The above quote is what should be done before any train leaves the sidings / ballast site. It shows to me scant regard for a train to be on the main line with an insecure load, and this all goes back to some one not doing the job to the book.
No-one will answer if you ring Melton Street
We're all in MK now! Should be an 01908 number...
I concur entirely with the quote above, in my time on the railways I have been site trainman on many hundreds of engineering trains.
After I received the certificate of readyness from the PW Man in Charge it was my job to ensure the train was good to go.
Many times the train would be in a right mess, and I have had to STOP the train untill the faults were rectified by the PW.
Then I had to sign for the train to come off the possession.
The link below is my stamp that I had to put on the train consist, with my name on it. If any thing happened to that train on the mainline it was all mine.
I did not get paid enought to have any crap flying my way, so the job was done by the book. SAFELY or not at all.
http://i48.tinypic.com/28v7p1t.jpg (My stamp with me name taken out.)
- Status