Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

[Trainman40083]

Hiya kinda random I’m new to all of this but I wanted to ask if there was a way for me to find out if my 0835 train from st pancreas to Notts will be the class 810?
I want to upgrade to 1st class but only will do it if it’s the aurora lol.
Thank you x

If you mean on Saturday..Well last Saturday it was a Class 222

 

[choochootelle]

If you mean on Saturday..Well last Saturday it was a Class 22

If you mean on Saturday..Well last Saturday it was a Class 222

Yes Saturday lol! That’s a shame to hear but thank you
Does anyone have experience on EMR first class, is it worth it? Ik on Saturdays complimentary food is a box kind of situation so no cooked breaky, but other than that is it good?

 

[Trainman40083]

Yes Saturday lol! That’s a shame to hear but thank you
Does anyone have experience on EMR first class, is it worth it? Ik on Saturdays complimentary food is a box kind of situation so no cooked breaky, but other than that is it good?

Never experienced it on Saturday. Check out the EMR website for their Saturday first class breakfast offering .... Subject to staff being available.

 

[1D54]

Hiya kinda random I’m new to all of this but I wanted to ask if there was a way for me to find out if my 0835 train from st pancreas to Notts will be the class 810?
I want to upgrade to 1st class but only will do it if it’s the aurora lol.
Thank you x

Looks like you are in luck then.. 810013.

 

[choochootelle]

Looks like you are in luck then.. 810013.

Wooohooo that’s amazing to hear thank you so much!!!
Absolutely can’t wait, now I just have to make sure I don’t miss the train lol ;-;

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Looks like the 0835 train from St pancreas to Notts is delayed till 0840 due to a fault in the train
The rumours about the 810s being dodgy is being proved right :/
Still it’s expected to get to Notts at the same time!
So we’ll see

 

[duffield]

Wooohooo that’s amazing to hear thank you so much!!!
Absolutely can’t wait, now I just have to make sure I don’t miss the train lol ;-;

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: 11 Apr 2026 ==

Looks like the 0835 train from St pancreas to Notts is delayed till 0840 due to a fault in the train
The rumours about the 810s being dodgy is being proved right :/
Still it’s expected to get to Notts at the same time!
So we’ll see

Looks like you may get a "fun" journey...here's a link to my post in the class 222 reliability thread explaining what's going on:

EMR Class 222’s - declining reliability

Early observations this morning see the semi regular 1D01 Kettering - Nottingham and the inevitable 1P22 Melton Mowbray - St Pancras cancelled again. 1B10 5 car vice 10, in fact I can't at first glance see any 10 car workings this morning.

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[tram21]

Looks like you may get a "fun" journey...here's a link to my post in the class 222 reliability thread explaining what's going on:

EMR Class 222’s - declining reliability

Early observations this morning see the semi regular 1D01 Kettering - Nottingham and the inevitable 1P22 Melton Mowbray - St Pancras cancelled again. 1B10 5 car vice 10, in fact I can't at first glance see any 10 car workings this morning.

www.railforums.co.uk

810013 failed at London and this service was cancelled.

 

[Alpaca]

Chaos at Leicester this morning, 810006 arrives on time for the 10:15 to Sheffield before being cancelled due to a fault 2 mins before departure, to then be put back into service on a 15 min delay. No explanation for this but we have left!

 

[dk1]

Chaos at Leicester this morning, 810006 arrives on time for the 10:15 to Sheffield before being cancelled due to a fault 2 mins before departure, to then be put back into service on a 15 min delay. No explanation for this but we have left!

Good to hear the fault was rectified. I see a schedule was put in for a 5Z01 10:15 to Derby but then cancelled again.

 

[Andy Pacer]

Chaos at Leicester this morning, 810006 arrives on time for the 10:15 to Sheffield before being cancelled due to a fault 2 mins before departure, to then be put back into service on a 15 min delay. No explanation for this but we have left!

"Chaos" is a strong word! Likely not as chaotic as all of yesterday's disruption!

 

[ChilliSauce]

Does anyone have experience on EMR first class, is it worth it? Ik on Saturdays complimentary food is a box kind of situation so no cooked breaky, but other than that is it good?

If your expecting the same level of service as offered in 1st Class by LNER then I am afraid to say you will be very very disappointed.

 

[BuhSnarf]

From EMR's website they offer the below at breakfast:

• Freshly filled hot breakfast rolls
• Choose from a plain porridge with honey or jam, or Salted caramel and almond
• Flavoured yoghurt
• Sweet treat

But only for those on "longer" journeys - which it doesn't specify what that is. For shorter journeys you get a hot/cold drink and a biscuit.

 

[Railperf]

Does anyone know why northbound starts from Leicester seem unusually slow at the moment?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I feel changes to the announcements coming - "we will shortly be arriving at [station name] - if you are leaving us here, please remember your personal belongings, press the circular door open button and take care when leaving the train".

I hope that’s a joke. If not, humanity is doomed.

 

[QSK19]

If your expecting the same level of service as offered in 1st Class by LNER then I am afraid to say you will be very very disappointed.

Absolutely 100% agree. When I came back from Edinburgh, LNER’s first class offering was a million light years ahead of EMR’s paltry one. Decent grub on proper plates and they kept me fed and watered all the time. Yes, I get the argument that EMR’s longest service is ~2 hours; but as I have said before, if you pay IC fares, you should expect a proper IC service with all the trimmings.

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From EMR's website they offer the below at breakfast:

• Freshly filled hot breakfast rolls
• Choose from a plain porridge with honey or jam, or Salted caramel and almond
• Flavoured yoghurt
• Sweet treat

But only for those on "longer" journeys - which it doesn't specify what that is. For shorter journeys you get a hot/cold drink and a biscuit.

Bit sceptical of the claim that they’ll be fresh; but I’ll go for a “longer” trip in first class one day and open-mindedly test the offering - anything of higher quality than mass-produced tut would be a nice, refreshing surprise.

 

[Dave61]

Absolutely 100% agree. When I came back from Edinburgh, LNER’s first class offering was a million light years ahead of EMR’s paltry one. Decent grub on proper plates and they kept me fed and watered all the time. Yes, I get the argument that EMR’s longest service is ~2 hours; but as I have said before, if you pay IC fares, you should expect a proper IC service with all the trimmings.

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Bit sceptical of the claim that they’ll be fresh; but I’ll go for a “longer” trip in first class one day and open-mindedly test the offering - anything of higher quality than mass-produced tut would be a nice, refreshing surprise.

Wife and I went 1st class to London from Long Eaton last year and the bacon roll was quite enjoyable. Shame they got rid of the 1st waiting lounge in STP.

 

[baz962]

Does anyone know why northbound starts from Leicester seem unusually slow at the moment?

We have a theory that it's because you have only been on engines for a short time/distance before stopping , although we don't know for sure.

 

[800001]

We have a theory that it's because you have only been on engines for a short time/distance before stopping , although we don't know for sure.

That shouldn't matter. As long as the engine has been preheated correctly before starting, then it can be used as normal.

 

[baz962]

That shouldn't matter. As long as the engine has been preheated correctly before starting, then it can be used as normal.

I agree. However it's the only place it happens and only down road. You really can feel the difference , it doesn't struggle at any other station or Leicester on the up .

 

[DannyMich2018]

I agree. However it's the only place it happens and only down road. You really can feel the difference , it doesn't struggle at any other station or Leicester on the up .

Yes agree. I seen on Sat a 810 arrive Leicester from the North, it came in and left about the same as a 222 would and no slower pulling out really.

 

[Spartacus]

Does anyone know why northbound starts from Leicester seem unusually slow at the moment?

There's a signal fault in the Humberstone Road area that's probably causing it.

 

[Merle Haggard]

I agree. However it's the only place it happens and only down road. You really can feel the difference , it doesn't struggle at any other station or Leicester on the up .

Changing at Leicester from a down Nottingham that's an 810 I've noticed, standing at the front of the departing train, that there's a noticeable delay between the driver 'opening up' and the engine revs building up to full, takes longer than a 222. Seems to remain stationery as the revs increase for longer.
But I haven't observed at any other location for comparison.

 

[baz962]

There's a signal fault in the Humberstone Road area that's probably causing it.

Not really an issue though. Just gutless from the off before that signal even becomes an issue.

 

[cambsy]

I imagine that the 810’s engines will need a software upgrade, so they can pull away better from a start, rather like when the 800’s first started running on GWR, when they struggled on diesel to match HST running. Im waiting for more 810 diagrams to start, as there are none at convenient time from St Pancras-Sheffield, only 08.03 STP-Sheffield then none on the fast Sheffield’s for good few hours(going by RTT). I did a St Pancras-Sheffield run couple weeks back to see what they are like on electric, but had bad run, held up late running Corby service, so want to try again.

 

[QSK19]

Wife and I went 1st class to London from Long Eaton last year and the bacon roll was quite enjoyable. Shame they got rid of the 1st waiting lounge in STP.

Useful and reassuring to know; and yep a real shame, but alas no surprise.

 

[tfw756rider]

I imagine that the 810’s engines will need a software upgrade, so they can pull away better from a start, rather like when the 800’s first started running on GWR, when they struggled on diesel to match HST running.

Don't the 810s have 4 986hp engines out of the box, compared to the 5-car 800s originally having 3 engines detuned to 750hp but then mapped to 940hp?

 

[cambsy]

tfw756 rider, i dont know, but looks like if they slow pulling away, that they need software update or maybe drivers trained to pull away in different notch etc. The 800’s pull away quite sprightly on Diesel, but its in the higher power bracket that they lose puff compared to HST’s etc from what remember when they were introduced.

 

[Amos390]

Looks like it might be ROG delivering 810018 today with a 5Q57 flow (tests the ECML then heads to Derby from there), it’s been manually activated now so all signs point to it going.

 

[800001]

Looks like it might be ROG delivering 810018 today with a 5Q57 flow (tests the ECML then heads to Derby from there), it’s been manually activated now so all signs point to it going.

Only a day later than planned......not bad

 

[50002Superb]

How long have the 810s been operating as a ten car?

Just seen one through Long Eaton.