I suppose in the testing phase, they didn’t go through 6+ hours a day, every day a week for miles on end carrying passengers. I wonder if this massive jump in demand from the units has caused them to falter a bit in a way not identifiable in testing. All the issues encountered on the mainline, whilst there are a lot of them, have all been fixed within a day, maybe they just need to be worn in a bit.
I remember when the 170s were introduced on the MML there were a large number of representatives of the manufacturer both at the stations and travelling. My memory fades, but I think that stock had a troubled introduction. Did the introduction of the 80Xs to LNER and GWR suffer as badly as the 810s are?
What you might be looking at here is something along the lines of: Go to depot, do a "Control, Alt, Delete" .. restart .. Send back out onto service.
Well at the time I used the HST service on the MML on a daily basis for commuting and slowly but surely the HSTs were replaced with Class 222 which from the perspective of comfort was a backwards step.
I have an idea, blame it on Covid
Covid will have caused some delays and issues but I don't think it can be blamed for all of the problems. There seems to be more underlying issues with these trains.I have an idea, blame it on Covid
It'll be as a 3Q code for a few reasons, the main one being that its ROG operated instead of the usual GBRf, but maybe also the fact that it is during the daytime helps with pathing allowances. With it being 3Q instead of 5Q, it gets put with the same priority as working passenger services (and I think high-speed ones), so it will be routed ahead of any other ECS and Freight moves, so they avoid most the congestion of daytime ECML. This could mean that they get a relatively constant speed for testing instead of it being quite stop-start, this is just a speculation though.
Fully aware of the reasoning for the type of different headcodes, in all the years of testing out of Merchant Park I can never ever recall a 3Q path.
Yeah, it is strange, but I'm sure ROG have a reason, it may not even run anyways at the end of the day
Well, based on Hitachi's performance with 810s you are probably right
I'm surprised there are two paths to Etches Park. I'm inclined to believe just 014 will be delivered
Most likely incase it's not ready to leave on the first path, lost count of the times delivery runs have been cancelled due to issues with the units over the years.
That’s nonsense.I have an idea, blame it on Covid
Not forgetting the notorious £22bn black hole caused by the previous government!
Since it (or part of it) went to Italy for climate testing, it has not been heard or seen since.Not forgetting the notorious £22bn black hole caused by the previous government!
Back OT, is the status of 002 any more known? Or is part of it still in Italy after all this time?
Hope they find it soon
810002 is expected to be among the last to be completed and delivered (early 2027) so I'd assume it's still a couple of months away from being seen
Makes you wonder what they actually did with it in Italy.
It's just symptomatic of the wholly lethargic (word used with consideration) approach to rail vehicle delivery, with it all being someone else's money. I doubt if the assembly line workers have waited patiently four years for their pay. We currently have the same situation with the new DLR trains, with commissioning proceeding at the speed of coastal erosion. I've described before UK airlines taking delivery of new jets on time on a Friday, and having them in full all-day service all around Europe from the following Monday, with EVERYTHING working..
014 and 015 both sat outside at Merchant Park, both pan up.
So 15 to test tonight then presuming?
I would assume so.
I think we as an industry don't challenge this enough. Agreed. With a nod to boom and bust being a contributing factor.
That’s the difference between small production runs and a production line. A new Airbus A320neo is off the production line with customisation of some items (livery, seats), but otherwise standard. On the U.K. railway we buy short runs of new stock.
