It probably needs some more in service first since, unless there are some more obvious 'out and back' diagrams to switch over it is likely that two diagrams will have to be introduced at a time. 10 units from 10 (003-012 in service) isn't going to work.
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It probably needs some more in service first since, unless there are some more obvious 'out and back' diagrams to switch over it is likely that two diagrams will have to be introduced at a time. 10 units from 10 (003-012 in service) isn't going to work.
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Diagram 2 was running this morning; I honestly overslept this morning and had to catch a later train in and it was this set - 707004 (London end) and 707011 (Country end) were the two units running today.
And my word, ye gods, what a terrible auto announcer these things have!!! Intonation all over the place, random gaps in sentences, and soforth. I guess that logistically it's easier to have a completely computer generated voice than have a voice artist in the studio to record, but I'd have thought it would be better than it was.
And my word, ye gods, what a terrible auto announcer these things have!!! Intonation all over the place, random gaps in sentences, and soforth. I guess that logistically it's easier to have a completely computer generated voice than have a voice artist in the studio to record, but I'd have thought it would be better than it was.
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Does anyone know when the next delivery is due?
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Desiros CIS gets the hiccups especially if it's on a super stopper, like some of the early ones off of London, which call at >90% of the stations to Portsmouth or Weymouth! It'll get to somewhere like Woking and then do a very long pause, go on a few more stations and then do another pause before completing it, admittedly it does get better as the journey progresses, but it's a pee poor system that could do with a serious upgrade now.
Be careful what you wish for. The system on the 707s is meant to a modern, all singing, all dancing system, but I've heard nothing but bad things so far. In my experience it has been pretty naff whenever I've been on a 707.
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It can't be any worse than a 450 which announced that it was going to Portsmouth Harbour calling at Guildford (pause), Haslemere, Godalming, Guildford, Haslemere, Havant, Petersfield, Fratton & Portsmouth Harbour. Talk about addled!
samuelmorris
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Have you heard the text to speech announcer on the 707s though? TTS systems are well known for their odd intonation but the system on the 707s is about as bad as I've encountered. The system at places like Kings Cross underground station may sound odd but they are far easier to understand in a noisy environment. I don't really understand why this example is as bad as it is.
It sometimes seems like the Desiros get totally distracted on the stoppers.
"Calling at A, B, C, D, E (Did I leave the oven on? Did I lock my door? Nice trees here... Oh, oops...) F, G, H"
It also seems to get more excited at Petersfield? I might be imagining it, but it seems to speed up and yell that this is Petersfield, we're going to Waterloo and that the next stop will be Haslemere
"Calling at A, B, C, D, E (Did I leave the oven on? Did I lock my door? Nice trees here... Oh, oops...) F, G, H"
It also seems to get more excited at Petersfield? I might be imagining it, but it seems to speed up and yell that this is Petersfield, we're going to Waterloo and that the next stop will be Haslemere
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2U07 (10/707) has been pined at Staines. Door issues the reason supplied.
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Reported elsewhere 7028&7029 have entered service this morning on 9F09
urpert
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As a regular user of 700s, it’s amazing what a difference SWT colours make to the interior of these.
MatthewRead
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There aren't any 707's booked to run tomorrow are there?
There is rugby at Twickenham tomorrow and in previous weeks, it seems that some 707s have been out to work additional services. However, I don't know.
707028+707029 working 5Z17 into Waterloo - suggests they will work 2Z17 1242 London Waterloo to Twickenham back out http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Q36084/2017/11/04/advanced
SWT_USER
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Looks like the 16.37 Waterloo > Waterloo has failed before departure. Destination screen on the front just has 'in test' displayed.
SWT_USER
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... and as soon as I typed that it left! 11 late.
AverageTD
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Is there a list of diagrams yet and on what date each diagram would be used?
TT-ONR-NRN
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There are three diagrams a couple of pages back if that helps 
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TT-ONR-NRN
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Quoted for the benefit of @AverageTD
Yep, they're the ones.
Good to see some 707s not just on the Richmond/Hounslow side, eg: Woking stoppers, Epsom route, etcWWTownEnth
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It’s been a month since the last delivery. Surely there must be another pair due soon? At this rate all 30 units won’t be in service until the end of 2018!!
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It’s been a month since the last delivery. Surely there must be another pair due soon? At this rate all 30 units won’t be in service until the end of 2018!!
707026 and 707027 reported elsewhere to have been delivered to Clapham Yard on Friday.
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So that makes 18 out of 30 units delivered by my calculations
707001-707014 plus 707026-707029
Only another 12 units to go, then we will have 30 trains that break down every day! Can’t wait!
707001-707014 plus 707026-707029
Only another 12 units to go, then we will have 30 trains that break down every day! Can’t wait!
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4th 707 diagram in from today (if I've traced it all through right and there's no mistakes/last minute swaps) :
5R07 05+48 Wimbledon Pk Depot Sdgs - Waterloo 06+37
2R07 0645 Waterloo - Waterloo 0809
2S17 0822 Waterloo - Weybridge 0939
2S26 1003 Weybridge - Waterloo 1127
2V27 1137 Waterloo - Waterloo 1302
2R33 1315 Waterloo - Waterloo 1441
2S43 1452 Waterloo - Weybridge 1607
2S52 1633 Weybridge - Waterloo 1757
2V53 1807 Waterloo - Waterloo 1932
2R59 1945 Waterloo - Waterloo 2111
2S69 2122 Waterloo - Weybridge 2237
2S78 2303 Weybridge - Staines 2332
5Y79 23+34 Staines - Wimbledon Pk Depot Sdgs 00+25 (was 5S78 - Staines Up Loop)
010+011 are today's units.
5R07 05+48 Wimbledon Pk Depot Sdgs - Waterloo 06+37
2R07 0645 Waterloo - Waterloo 0809
2S17 0822 Waterloo - Weybridge 0939
2S26 1003 Weybridge - Waterloo 1127
2V27 1137 Waterloo - Waterloo 1302
2R33 1315 Waterloo - Waterloo 1441
2S43 1452 Waterloo - Weybridge 1607
2S52 1633 Weybridge - Waterloo 1757
2V53 1807 Waterloo - Waterloo 1932
2R59 1945 Waterloo - Waterloo 2111
2S69 2122 Waterloo - Weybridge 2237
2S78 2303 Weybridge - Staines 2332
5Y79 23+34 Staines - Wimbledon Pk Depot Sdgs 00+25 (was 5S78 - Staines Up Loop)
010+011 are today's units.
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707013 and 707014 haven't been delivered so only 16. Any sighting was an error when 707028 and 707029 were delivered - someone thought that 13 and 14 would follow 11 and 12. Some suggestion that the higher numbered units are obstructing delivery of the lower numbered ones wherever they are currently being kept.
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How many class 455 diagrams currently run on the Windsor lines?
Good to see an extra diagram today, that is keeping to the schedule. There should be another 4 units entering service in a fortnights time.
TT-ONR-NRN
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So it looks like these are the timetabled services out of Waterloo then:
05:58 Windsor
06:45 Hounslow
07:20 Woking
08:15 Hounslow
08:22 Weybridge
08:28 Windsor
10:58 Windsor
11:37 Hounslow
13:15 Hounslow
13:28 Windsor
14:37 Hounslow
14:52 Weybridge
15:58 Windsor
16:15 Hounslow
16:37 Hounslow
17:52 Weybridge
18:07 Hounslow
18:15 Hounslow
18:28 Windsor
19:45 Hounslow
20:58 Windsor
21:22 Weybridge
05:58 Windsor
06:45 Hounslow
07:20 Woking
08:15 Hounslow
08:22 Weybridge
08:28 Windsor
10:58 Windsor
11:37 Hounslow
13:15 Hounslow
13:28 Windsor
14:37 Hounslow
14:52 Weybridge
15:58 Windsor
16:15 Hounslow
16:37 Hounslow
17:52 Weybridge
18:07 Hounslow
18:15 Hounslow
18:28 Windsor
19:45 Hounslow
20:58 Windsor
21:22 Weybridge
MatthewRead
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Weekdays only still?
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