Class 458/5

[cjmillsnun]

With only one left at Doncaster, it's time that Alstom got on with repairing 8501.

 

[swt_passenger]

With only one left at Doncaster, it's time that Alstom got on with repairing 8501.

Hasn't it been moved to Wembley for repair?

 

[WarrenTManager]

74438 is the BZ car in 8521.

8528 has been in traffic for a week or so

 

[Siemens Staines]

458521 + 458507 seen on test today 5C28 1521 Reading - Wimbledon running around 60 early

 

[Goldfish62]

I've been on the 1935 MF Waterloo to Reading a couple of times so far, this currently being the only Reading line service operated by a Class 458/5. On both occasions the PIS was not working and the external screen displayed "not in service".

I'm assuming from this that Reading line services are not programmed into the system. Is this true? Seems a bit of an oversight if so.

 

[HeelBurton]

I've been on the 1935 MF Waterloo to Reading a couple of times so far, this currently being the only Reading line service operated by a Class 458/5. On both occasions the PIS was not working and the external screen displayed "not in service".



I'm assuming from this that Reading line services are not programmed into the system. Is this true? Seems a bit of an oversight if so.

Yep. No PIS codes available for Reading services. The same for Shepperton services.

 

[HarleyDavidson]

Yep. No PIS codes available for Reading services. The same for Shepperton services.

So it's a case of PIS off then.

 

[WWTownEnth]

Does anyone one know when 458516 is likely to head south? It must be imminent.

 

[scottie]

458516 was still missing a driving car and all its coach numbers when I saw it on Tuesday.

 

[WWTownEnth]

Any news on when the final unit will be delivered from Doncaster?

Also, have the remaining units being tested out of Wimbledon been brought into service?

Finally, any ideas when the Windsor services will go fully 459?

 

[43096]

Finally, any ideas when the Windsor services will go fully 459?

What's a 459, then? Other than what SWT use on crew diagrams because the crews can't cope with 458/5. The trains are 458/5s.

 

[HarleyDavidson]

What's a 459, then? Other than what SWT use on crew diagrams because the crews can't cope with 458/5. The trains are 458/5s.

In full pedant mode today aren't grumps.

 

[WWTownEnth]

other than the pointless pedantry, does anyone have any information?

Thanks.

 

[TEW]

458521 seen in service this morning.

 

[WWTownEnth]

458501 Out of service - fire damaged
458502 In service
458503 In service
458504 In service
458505 In service 21/04/15
458506 In service 04/01/16
458507 Wimbledon testing 26/01/16
458508 In service 02/11/15
458509 In service 29/08/15
458510 In service 28/04/15
458511 In service 04/05/15
458812 In service 14/12/15
458513 In service 14/12/15
458514 In service 04/01/16
458515 In service 14/12/15
458516 Doncaster 09/12/15
458517 In service 10/02/16
458518 Returned to service 12/01/16
458519 In service 14/09/15
458520 In service
458521 In service 19/03/16
458522 In service 02/11/15
458523 In service 10/12/15
458524 In service 26/05/15
458525 In service 09/06/15
458526 In service 29/08/15
458527 In service 20/07/15
458528 In service 14/02/16
458529 In service 28/09/15
458530 In service
458531 In service
458532 In service
458533 In service
458534 In service
458535 In service
458536 In service

In summary:

1 458/5 out of service and awaiting repair
1 458/5 in testing
1 458/5 in conversion
33 458/5s in service

 

[Dr_Intoxicated]

I noticed that the 08:41 service from Feltham to Waterloo via Hounslow was a 10 car 458/5 this morning. It has previously been an 8 car 450 since December and a 5 car 458/5 previously to that. I wonder is that a sign of increasing availability?

 

[D6975]

I had the privilege of travelling in a 10 car 458 set on Sunday for the first time ever. All the toilets were locked out of use. Is this a regular occurrence?

 

[HarleyDavidson]

I had the privilege of travelling in a 10 car 458 set on Sunday for the first time ever. All the toilets were locked out of use. Is this a regular occurrence?

Not at all surprising considering that the clientele often use them for a smoking/drugs & sex den.

Last time I opened the door on a "Mobility Impaired" toilet, I found two boys having some let's say unorthodox entertainment that should be kept to the bedroom.

 

[TEW]

I had the privilege of travelling in a 10 car 458 set on Sunday for the first time ever. All the toilets were locked out of use. Is this a regular occurrence?

Yes, the 458/5 toilets are very frequently out of use. Even when they're in use they're normally in a right state.

 

[Kite159]

Not at all surprising considering that the clientele often use them for a smoking/drugs & sex den.

Last time I opened the door on a "Mobility Impaired" toilet, I found two boys having some let's say unorthodox entertainment that should be kept to the bedroom.

Getting the passengers ready for the toiletless 707s

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Agreed with TEW, even when in use the toilets are in a state, you need a gas mask to use them

 

[HarleyDavidson]

Getting the passengers ready for the toiletless 707s

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Agreed with TEW, even when in use the toilets are in a state, you need a gas mask to use them

I'd actually say a Hazmat suit would be more appropriate.

 

[WarrenTManager]

After the first batch of baby change tables were broken by their use as baby making tables, the new ones going in have apparently been tested to 80kg. That's some baby

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Not at all surprising considering that the clientele often use them for a smoking/drugs & sex den.

Last time I opened the door on a "Mobility Impaired" toilet, I found two boys having some let's say unorthodox entertainment that should be kept to the bedroom.

Good to know SWT are an equal opportunities privacy provider... wonder what the famously liberal-minded Brian Souter would make of that!

 

[HarleyDavidson]

Good to know SWT are an equal opportunities privacy provider... wonder what the famously liberal-minded Brian Souter would make of that!

They wouldn't have been caught doing "Man Love" if they'd locked the door!

 

[WWTownEnth]

Has anyone seen 458507 in service? It's supposedly been at Wimbledon for testing since 26/01/16.

Thanks.

 

[158722]

Has anyone seen 458507 in service? It's supposedly been at Wimbledon for testing since 26/01/16.

Thanks.

And has 458516 been delivered yet or still at Doncaster. Been away since Dec 9th.

 

[TEW]

458507 seen in service this morning.

 

[WWTownEnth]

458501 Out of service - fire damaged
458502 In service
458503 In service
458504 In service
458505 In service 21/04/15
458506 In service 04/01/16
458507 In service 24/03/16
458508 In service 02/11/15
458509 In service 29/08/15
458510 In service 28/04/15
458511 In service 04/05/15
458812 In service 14/12/15
458513 In service 14/12/15
458514 In service 04/01/16
458515 In service 14/12/15
458516 Doncaster 09/12/15
458517 In service 10/02/16
458518 Returned to service 12/01/16
458519 In service 14/09/15
458520 In service
458521 In service 19/03/16
458522 In service 02/11/15
458523 In service 10/12/15
458524 In service 26/05/15
458525 In service 09/06/15
458526 In service 29/08/15
458527 In service 20/07/15
458528 In service 14/02/16
458529 In service 28/09/15
458530 In service
458531 In service
458532 In service
458533 In service
458534 In service
458535 In service
458536 In service

In summary:

1 458/5 out of service and awaiting repair
1 458/5 in conversion
34 458/5s in service

 

[RobShipway]

Are the 458/5's likely to be transferred to fully operate the Reading route soon?

 

[TEW]

Not for over a year yet. There are platform extensions and power upgrades to be done on the Reading line first. And the 707s need to be introduced to Windsor/Weybridge/Hounslow Loop services to free up the 458/5s.