Class 43 disposals

[ExRes]

43186 & 43187 with coaches 49106, 48126, 48117 & 48118 working Europhoenix operated 0847 5Q40 Laira T&RSMD to Ely MLF Papworth Sidings, reported as carrying a "GWR Angel Trains HST Farewell" headboard

An 0810 5Q43 is currently scheduled for tomorrow

 

[317362]

Here it is near Hungerford. Fittingly last timetabled passenger GWR HST through here also had 43187 'The Welshman'. Lovely to see them back.

 

[Vinyl_Lap]

Quite sad to see the nameplate removed and the GWR wording also scraped off. Thanks for the picture, though.

 

[ExRes]

Todays 0810 5Q43 reportedly to be 43004 & 43042

 

[317362]

The path is also switched from Berks and Hants line to via Bristol today, it had showed as via Newbury earlier in week

Realtime Trains | 5Q43 0810 Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings | 08/01/2026

Real-time train running information for 5Q43 0810 departure from Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings on 08/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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How many more sets are there at Laira after this one? Just the one or is there another?

 

[ExRes]

Todays 0810 5Q43 reportedly to be 43004 & 43042

Coaches showing on se gen as 48119, 48120, 48121, 49109, 49108, 48122, 48123 & 48124

 

[reddragon]

The path is also switched from Berks and Hants line to via Bristol today, it had showed as via Newbury earlier in week

Realtime Trains | 5Q43 0810 Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings | 08/01/2026

Real-time train running information for 5Q43 0810 departure from Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings on 08/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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How many more sets are there at Laira after this one? Just the one or is there another?

Station staff said 2 more sets to go.

43004 was in a filthy state!

 

[adc82140]

How many sets do WCRC have? According to my records it's 8 coaches, 4 power cars.

 

[fgwrich]

The path is also switched from Berks and Hants line to via Bristol today, it had showed as via Newbury earlier in week

Realtime Trains | 5Q43 0810 Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings | 08/01/2026

Real-time train running information for 5Q43 0810 departure from Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings on 08/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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How many more sets are there at Laira after this one? Just the one or is there another?

They’ll be the remaining Angel Power Cars, whatever West Coast and Romic have bought and whatever is still considered a franchise asset. Still a number of moves yet to come.

 

[43096]

How many sets do WCRC have? According to my records it's 8 coaches, 4 power cars.

Your records are faulty! Two power cars (43154/155) and 12 trailers so far at Carnforth.

 

[DBS92042]

The path is also switched from Berks and Hants line to via Bristol today, it had showed as via Newbury earlier in week

Realtime Trains | 5Q43 0810 Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings | 08/01/2026

Real-time train running information for 5Q43 0810 departure from Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings on 08/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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How many more sets are there at Laira after this one? Just the one or is there another?

Remaining at Laira T&RSMD should be:
- 43188, 43189 (Angel Trains)
- 43088 (heavily stripped), 43156 (GWR Franchise Assets)
- 43092, 43093, 43097, 43098, 43198 (First Rail Holdings)

And Mk3s 48114, 48136, 48137, 48150, 49105 (First Rail Holdings) and 49117 (GWR Franchise Asset)

 

[ac6000cw]

43186 & 43187 with coaches 49106, 48126, 48117 & 48118 working Europhoenix operated 0847 5Q40 Laira T&RSMD to Ely MLF Papworth Sidings, reported as carrying a "GWR Angel Trains HST Farewell" headboard

5Q40 passing through Ely station yesterday (07-01-2025)

The headboard:

 

[Ashley Hill]

Here’s 43004 and 43042 seen between Swindon and Shrivenham today.

 

[adc82140]

Your records are faulty! Two power cars (43154/155) and 12 trailers so far at Carnforth.

Yeah thought as much. Can anyone please furnish me with the Mk3 coach numbers?

 

[43096]

Yeah thought as much. Can anyone please furnish me with the Mk3 coach numbers?

48102/105/107/109-112/130/149 and 49103/104/112

 

[adc82140]

48102/105/107/109-112/130/149 and 49103/104/112

That's great thank you.

 

[Tetragon213]

Station staff said 2 more sets to go.

43004 was in a filthy state!

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It looks to have been washed fairly recently, as none of the farewell writing is present; many spotters (myself included) wrote fond farewell messages in the dirt and grime on arrival into Penzance and/or Plymouth. I distinctly remember someone drew a big heart with the double arrow inside it on one of the locos, certainly.

Is there a public record of which units (or if all of them) have been sold on to Mexico?

 

[fgwrich]

It looks to have been washed fairly recently, as none of the farewell writing is present; many spotters (myself included) wrote fond farewell messages in the dirt and grime on arrival into Penzance and/or Plymouth. I distinctly remember someone drew a big heart with the double arrow inside it on one of the locos, certainly.

It’ll be a condition of the Handback procedure along with removal of the branding, though 187 escaped some of this with a vinyl dragon still attached to the body side.

Some people aren’t going to like it when 093 is handed back…

 

[reddragon]

It looks to have been washed fairly recently, as none of the farewell writing is present; many spotters (myself included) wrote fond farewell messages in the dirt and grime on arrival into Penzance and/or Plymouth. I distinctly remember someone drew a big heart with the double arrow inside it on one of the locos, certainly.

Is there a public record of which units (or if all of them) have been sold on to Mexico?

How do these pictures of 43004 rate cleaning wise then? The driver couldn't see through the cab door window! Front was clean though, shiny yellow panel



There is also a large load in the goods area at the back, on a pallet wrapped in plastic film.

 

[Tetragon213]

It’ll be a condition of the Handback procedure along with removal of the branding, though 187 escaped some of this with a vinyl dragon still attached to the body side.

Some people aren’t going to like it when 093 is handed back…

I'd probably be among them, seeing as that I really liked that Legends of the Great Western design on the side! But I totally understand why they need to remove it.

How do these pictures of 43004 rate cleaning wise then? The driver couldn't see through the cab door window! Front was clean though, shiny yellow panel

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There is also a large load in the goods area at the back, on a pallet wrapped in plastic film.

I suspect it was either given a very rudimentary wash, or probably left outside in the rain which has scrubbed off the writing.
Wonder what might have been on the pallet? Probably parts or maintenance equipment?

 

[s491]

I'd probably be among them, seeing as that I really liked that Legends of the Great Western design on the side! But I totally understand why they need to remove it.

I suspect it was either given a very rudimentary wash, or probably left outside in the rain which has scrubbed off the writing.
Wonder what might have been on the pallet? Probably parts or maintenance equipment?

Parts are almost certainly bits that GWR owe Angel!

The return conditions of the lease do not require the operator to make it showroom fresh - Angel will be more concerned about holes in the bodywork and rust than dirt.

 

[43096]

Is there a public record of which units (or if all of them) have been sold on to Mexico?

No, because it is a transaction between private companies.

 

[The_Van]

An excellent feature on HST'S just finished on BBC Spotlight. Worth a look on catchup

 

[northernbelle]

An excellent feature on HST'S just finished on BBC Spotlight. Worth a look on catchup

I saw this - they'd made some effort to dig out some archive footage too which was nice.

 

[gazthomas]

No, because it is a transaction between private companies.

The 125 Group maintain a list of exported power cars on its website, so it is in the public domain if a little out of date.

I was in Mexico during November, which included a tour of the depot at Coatzacolcos. This is what we compiled:

Mexico PC
FIT 3007 - 43170
FIT 3008 - 43022
FIT 3009 - 43007
FIT 3010 - 43306
FIT 3011 - 43307
FIT 3012 - 43316
FIT 3013 - 43320
FIT 3014 - 43378

FIT 3028 - ?????
FIT 3029 - 43153
FIT 3030 -
FIT 3031 - 43160 or 43162
FIT 3032 - 43194
FIT 3033 - 43312
FIT 3034 - 43319
FIT 3035 - 43238

Other P/C's in Mexico
43027, 43160, 43162 (to identify)
43158 & 43295 (Donors)

 

[ExRes]

43066 & 43076 reportedly on their way to Mid Norfolk Railway between RailAdventure 43467 & 43468 on 1227 5Q26 from Burton OT Wetmore Sidings, suggestion that they're to be used as spares donors by ROMIC



** Updated Saturday 17th January **


Reported on WNXX that 43017 & 43020 have been transported by road from Nemesis Burton to EMR Kingsbury for disposal

 

[HMTrains]

Realtime Trains | 0E43 0900 Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings | 20/01/2026

Real-time train running information for 0E43 0900 departure from Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings on 20/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Move from Laira to Ely on Tuesday, interesting how it's a light loco move, could just be 2 power cars going

 

[47286Dan]

Realtime Trains | 0E43 0900 Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings | 20/01/2026

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Move from Laira to Ely on Tuesday, interesting how it's a light loco move, could just be 2 power cars going

It’s a Europheonix move so should be 37 hauled. There’s a 0B37 from Rectory Jn to Cardiff

Realtime Trains | 0B37 0858 Rectory Jn (Colwick Colas) to Cardiff Central | 19/01/2026

Real-time train running information for 0B37 0858 departure from Rectory Jn (Colwick Colas) to Cardiff Central on 19/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Then continues from Cardiff on 0C38 to Laira

Realtime Trains | 0C38 1505 Cardiff Central to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. | 19/01/2026

Real-time train running information for 0C38 1505 departure from Cardiff Central to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. on 19/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Nothing yet allocated but will be the loco used in the 0E43 to Ely

Dan

 

[HMTrains]

It’s a Europheonix move so should be 37 hauled. There’s a 0B37 from Rectory Jn to Cardiff

Realtime Trains | 0B37 0858 Rectory Jn (Colwick Colas) to Cardiff Central | 19/01/2026

Real-time train running information for 0B37 0858 departure from Rectory Jn (Colwick Colas) to Cardiff Central on 19/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Then continues from Cardiff on 0C38 to Laira

Realtime Trains | 0C38 1505 Cardiff Central to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. | 19/01/2026

Real-time train running information for 0C38 1505 departure from Cardiff Central to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. on 19/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Nothing yet allocated but will be the loco used in the 0E43 to Ely

Dan

So its not a 43 move, wonder what it is then

 

[47286Dan]

So its not a 43 move, wonder what it is then

That’s not what I said. I said the loco hauling 0E43 will be coming from Rectory Jn.

Dan