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As do the cast GWR letters which I’m sure will probably find their way to auction at some point.

198’s nameplates may end up being kept by GWR given their significance though.
Perhaps a museum around didcot / swindon?
 
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From one of those videos of the stock movement I watched on youtube, one of the powercars still retained it's GWR branding (43198) but the name plate appeared to have been removed, the other two powercars had been debranded.
Did First Group sell these three powercars to WCR?
 

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From one of those videos of the stock movement I watched on youtube, one of the powercars still retained it's GWR branding (43198) but the name plate appeared to have been removed, the other two powercars had been debranded.
Did First Group sell these three powercars to WCR?
Technically, First Rail Holdings sold them to WCR.

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That would explain a lot. It's a shame 198 is losing her plates; the fact that she is not only the last powercar, but also named for 2 drivers who lost their lives while signed on for duty was what made her my favourite loco. I didn't know plates were the TOC's property!

Any bets on what the prices will be? :lol:
Normally (!) if the TOC names the item of rolling stock then the nameplate belongs to the TOC. The exception was when the ex BR stock got handed to the ROSCOs where they inherited ownership. So any names carried under BR usually became the property of the ROSCO after de-naming.
 

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Do we know where 43024 ended up? It was sighted on a low loader in Gateshead in mid-December
I know it’s a year and a bit later. I’ve just found this thread by searching for 43024. I’ve just spotted it on Haymarket still, completley stripped down, no engine, no cab.
 

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I know it’s a year and a bit later. I’ve just found this thread by searching for 43024. I’ve just spotted it on Haymarket still, completley stripped down, no engine, no cab.
Correct, ScotRail spares donor now that 185 & 030 have now been stripped for spares.

Here’s 024 last August poking its head out in between the sheds at Haymarket. Only visible from passing trains, nothing from the tram stop unfortunately.
 

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Why would they have the side cut out to remove the engine? Surely it would be easier and cheaper to remove the roof covers and lift out the engine....as they used to do during periodic overhauls?
Makes it easier? Quite narrow opening in the roof, if no sides or only one side makes job a lot easier. Also can attach lifting brackets more easily? Sure seen lots of pictures of locos with sides cut away and engine in situ in years gone by.
 

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Why would they have the side cut out to remove the engine? Surely it would be easier and cheaper to remove the roof covers and lift out the engine....as they used to do during periodic overhauls?
Why struggle when the power car is going in the scrap bin anyway? Give yourself room to extract the engine and all the ancillaries without the usual contortions required.
 

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Why struggle when the power car is going in the scrap bin anyway? Give yourself room to extract the engine and all the ancillaries without the usual contortions required.
Exactly this. It’s a lot easier to palletise items and components if you can cut the bodyside out and lift them out that way. It is also somewhat safer and reduces the risk of damage as well.
 

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Exactly this. It’s a lot easier to palletise items and components if you can cut the bodyside out and lift them out that way. It is also somewhat safer and reduces the risk of damage as well.
BY cutting the side out they can take the engine and other bits out without using an overhead crane, perhaps a road crane or even a hefty fork-lift could pick up most parts.
 

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Why would they have the side cut out to remove the engine? Surely it would be easier and cheaper to remove the roof covers and lift out the engine....as they used to do during periodic overhauls?

Part of scrapping a vehicle is chopping the sides up!
 

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Part of scrapping a vehicle is chopping the sides up!
Indeed. It’s a far more delicate and considerate way to do things, allowing spares not to be damaged.

Other Scrappies, such as Unimetals and Raxstar, tend to just take a grabber to it and chop and burn whatever they can. I’ve seen 47s pushed over and chomped up with grab attachments. Sure it’s quicker than the method Arlington are doing here, But your chance of useable spares is next to none.

(Obviously this is after they have been emptied of fuel / oils / batteries and other hazardous materials and liquids!)
 

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Path in for Tuesday. 5Q43 Laira - Mid Norfolk Railway. Pathed as 110mph so looks like just 2 powercars with the Mk3s.
 

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Path in for Tuesday. 5Q43 Laira - Mid Norfolk Railway. Pathed as 110mph so looks like just 2 powercars with the Mk3s.
Debranded 092/093. As before, they are part of the Romic Fleet along with the remaining Mk3s at Laira.
 

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So today's working was the very last working of an HST set in the GWR region then?

I went on my first one three weeks after launch in 1976 (Cardiff to London on a 125 for £1.25 promotion), which triggered a lifetime interest in rail. So nice, if sad, to see today's working pass through Nailsea on it's final exit.
 

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So today's working was the very last working of an HST set in the GWR region then?

I went on my first one three weeks after launch in 1976 (Cardiff to London on a 125 for £1.25 promotion), which triggered a lifetime interest in rail. So nice, if sad, to see today's working pass through Nailsea on it's final exit.

No it wasn’t; Network Rail’s HST still runs on the Western Region.
 

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43091, which turned up at a small railway site in Henstridge last summer, is now reported by WNXX as being dismantled at that site. If memory serves me right, I think rumour was it was for component recovery for somebody - LSL keeps coming to mind but can't for the life of me think why they would move it to that location. Either way though, 091 is another one down!
 

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