cactustwirly
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Well I did just say some Oxford stoppers have been curtailed at Didcot and I thought that dropped a few hints
From about 4pm.
I can't find any, they all appear to be going to Oxford
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I can't find any, they all appear to be going to Oxford
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cactustwirly
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I believe most of them are at Bristol now
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http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Q20024/2017/12/28/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Q20025/2017/12/28/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Q20023/2017/12/28/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C58053/2017/12/28/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C58063/2017/12/28/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C58076/2017/12/28/advanced
There are also Reading to Oxford 165 diagrams.
cactustwirly
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Yes today, but none for tomorrow or Saturday.
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Fair enough
Kite159
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Wouldn't like to be on the 17:37 stopping service to Reading, looks like to be a single 3 coach Turbo!
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Better than a 2 coach Turbo. I’ve been on one of those many times on that route.
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Once further electrification goes live in December 2018, will there be any more 387 diagrams or is it just that the IEPs will travel further on electric?
LNW-GW Joint
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Newbury terminating services should go over to 387s in Dec 2018.
After that there's just Oxford (no date yet).
Maidenhead/Reading locals will convert from 387s to Crossrail/Elizabeth line stock (345s) in 2019.
There were several booked ones between the peaks on weekdays, and I found that as long as it was a school day and there was no disruption, there was actually enough capacity. It was rare not to get a seat at Southall towards Paddington, although the Heathrow Connect a few minutes earlier helped
. Having said that, there wasn't much slack to cover for a cancellation or disruption, so the extra capacity will be useful there.But I can guarantee that my fellow passengers at Southall still won't use the full length of the train…
always want to be nearest to the stairs at Southall and Ealing Broadway. Sometimes with evening peak Hayes & Harlington stoppers having unoccupied seats throughout towards the rear, while the front 2 coaches have no room to move.
Kite159
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There were several booked ones between the peaks on weekdays, and I found that as long as it was a school day and there was no disruption, there was actually enough capacity. It was rare not to get a seat at Southall towards Paddington, although the Heathrow Connect a few minutes earlier helped
But I can guarantee that my fellow passengers at Southall still won't use the full length of the train…
Same everywhere, some passengers will crowd around the first set of doors and ignore the rest of the train
They seem to have kept it very low key - nothing in GWR's twitter feed.
cactustwirly
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How many seats does a 4 car 387 have?
I'm onboard one now and it's absolutely packed! Standing room only.
I'm sure a 3 car turbo has more seats.
I'm onboard one now and it's absolutely packed! Standing room only.
I'm sure a 3 car turbo has more seats.
Based on porterbrook's brochure, they'll seat 219 in a 4 car
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I’ve just got off of a 4 car 387 which was 387172
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Peter Mugridge
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The figures given in the Combined Volume add up to 223 seats for a 387/1.
A three car 165 seems to have 302 seats and a 166 seems to have 244 seats.
The 387, of course, is in 2+2 layout whereas the Turbos are in 2+3.
A three car 165 seems to have 302 seats and a 166 seems to have 244 seats.
The 387, of course, is in 2+2 layout whereas the Turbos are in 2+3.
cactustwirly
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A 3 car turbo has 264 seats according to Angel trains
jyte
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Aren't 3 car turbos 5 abreast? That will easily net you 20 extra seats a carriage.
Of course, when Crossrail takes over most (if not all) of the stopping Reading services, people are going to struggle with the mostly longitudinal tube like seating and the corresponding lack of seats.
Of course, when Crossrail takes over most (if not all) of the stopping Reading services, people are going to struggle with the mostly longitudinal tube like seating and the corresponding lack of seats.
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Were you on the 1507 PAD - DID 1630 working by any chance?
cactustwirly
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No 1637 from PAD to TWY
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The 1st is the soft launch as it's 'Sunday' service iirc, the 2nd will the be first day in heavy commuter usage.
However a soft launch 24 hours before the actual one doesn't give anyone a lot of time to clear things up :/
However a soft launch 24 hours before the actual one doesn't give anyone a lot of time to clear things up :/
cactustwirly
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I think the soft launch started on Thursday
jyte
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Wasn't that the soft-soft launch, using the existing timetable?
New timetable 'soft' launches on the 1st IIRC.
It must be a Saturday service tomorrow, as Taplow gets half hourly trains. If a poster on the GW Coffee Shop forum is correct, and GWR can't get enough drivers with traction knowledge for tomorrow and Tuesday, expect Turbos to run in place of Electrostars.
The Turbos have their own diagrams to cover!
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