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Class 376 refurbishment 2025/2026

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brad465

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Judging by the rate of updates, I'm guessing they are being completed at a rate of one a fortnight, so there's just over a year to go for them all to be done.
 

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SE Trains livery with original interior
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SE Trains livery with refreshed interior
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Judging by the rate of updates, I'm guessing they are being completed at a rate of one a fortnight, so there's just over a year to go for them all to be done.
That's correct. Each unit is in for 4 weeks, so two units in Grove Park at ay one time, but they are staggered. All furniture out, floor restoration done, at seat power done, necessary bits of fixing points painted etc., by which time the removables are back from Alstom's subcontractors duly refurbished and ready to be refitted. Seems to be working like a dream now and is well managed.
 

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Have all of the units been painted into the new SE Blue livery? Sorry if already mentioned further up the thread
 

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034 refurbed

Havent updated the list in a bit so may be slightly out of date
 

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So if the list is up to date we are roughly 2 weeks away from the halfway pointof refurbs
 

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I still can't get over the fact they are not installing the air conditioning. These are some of the hottest units on a hot days, worse than the Networkers, where window openings are larger and where there are more of them.

What a bloody joke of "refurbishment" it is...
 

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I still can't get over the fact they are not installing the air conditioning. These are some of the hottest units on a hot days, worse than the Networkers, where window openings are larger and where there are more of them.

What a bloody joke of "refurbishment" it is...
It feels like a bare minimum refurb job, because Southeastern expect them to be replaced as well as the Networkers. That's what I hope anyway...
 

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It feels like a bare minimum refurb job, because Southeastern expect them to be replaced as well as the Networkers. That's what I hope anyway...
With HMT involved l wouldn't hold my breath on that.
 

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It feels like a bare minimum refurb job, because Southeastern expect them to be replaced as well as the Networkers. That's what I hope anyway...
It does beg the question why has it taken this long for the 376s to get refurbished / refreshed in the first place.

This really should have happened years ago when SE were refurbishing the 375s
 

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Most Networkers never saw any kind of refurbishment except what was legally necessary (eg accessible toilet) so the pretty feeble 376 job is even more than what other Metro trains saw.
 

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Steve White has revealed 16/36 units have been completed, and also said that retrofitting aircon would have required a budget quadruple what they got:


On our latest Listen and Learn day some colleagues visited the class 376 refresh programme. 16/36 units now completed. Before anyone asks, the budget would need to have been four times bigger to retrofit air con. We take the opportunity to improve what we can, when we can
 

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Networkers have been pretty much uncared for since only a few years into their working life, the problem then being turbocharged by Connex and it hasn't really recovered from that ever since, bar new seat covers years ago.

Unwanted child sums it up nicely!
In what way did Connex South Eastern “Turbocharge” the Networker fleet? Do you mean they over intensively utilised them? If that was such, why didnt they order more Class 376s for SE Metro/Suburban lines. I never thought the Class 465s were suited to inner suburban operations.
 

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In what way did Connex South Eastern “Turbocharge” the Networker fleet? Do you mean they over intensively utilised them? If that was such, why didnt they order more Class 376s for SE Metro/Suburban lines. I never thought the Class 465s were suited to inner suburban operations.
In 2005, shortly after the 36-strong 376 fleet was introduced, 34 of the 465/2s were refurbished into the 465/9s and redeployed on outer suburban services. Keep in mind the Networkers were little more than a decade old when the 376s came in, so there's no way they'd have replaced the entire fleet (or even most of it).

Although by then of course Connex had been superseded by South Eastern Trains (itself succeeded by Govia Southeastern in '06).
 

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In 2005, shortly after the 36-strong 376 fleet was introduced, 34 of the 465/2s were refurbished into the 465/9s and redeployed on outer suburban services. Keep in mind the Networkers were little more than a decade old when the 376s came in, so there's no way they'd have replaced the entire fleet (or even most of it).

Although by then of course Connex had been superseded by South Eastern Trains (itself succeeded by Govia Southeastern in '06).
I seem to recall the Class 376 fleet was to take over Networker trains on inner suburban/metro services in South-East London. I seem to recall Hitatchi offered a early A-Train variant with sliding pocketed doors. It was a shame they did not win the contract. It is good that the Electrostar 376fleet is getting a refurbishment that is well overdue. The fleet did look dire and neglected.
 
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In what way did Connex South Eastern “Turbocharge” the Networker fleet? Do you mean they over intensively utilised them? If that was such, why didnt they order more Class 376s for SE Metro/Suburban lines. I never thought the Class 465s were suited to inner suburban operations.
No I don't mean that, i meant they let such newish trains they inherited become vandalised from wall to wall just as they did with all the other stock they had including the South Central side. I'd call that turbocharged compared with BR on an already troublesome area. Wasnt it the case they had to pay up at the end of their tenure to the ROSCO because of this and replace etched windows etc as it was so bad?
 

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