Class 345 progress

[theking]

There will be a night service no doubt about that will probably be between Paddington crossrail and Abbey Wood on the rfl infrastructure just like in the core on the Overground ELL.

 

[itfcfan]

First 345 ran on ATO between Westbourne Park and Abbey Wood earlier this week

That's big news Goldfish62! I've been waiting to see news about signalling setup in the core being ready for test runs all the way through. Do you know which day it ran?

 

[absolutelymilk]

That's big news Goldfish62! I've been waiting to see news about signalling setup in the core being ready for test runs all the way through. Do you know which day it ran?

Indeed excellent news, presumably with no issues?

 

[Goldfish62]

That's big news Goldfish62! I've been waiting to see news about signalling setup in the core being ready for test runs all the way through. Do you know which day it ran?

I think it was Monday night, but don't quote me on that.

 

[Goldfish62]

Indeed excellent news, presumably with no issues?

From what I understand from inside info is that the ATO aspect is fine, but still significant general software issues with the trains.

 

[itfcfan]

Status of testing for Crossrail seems like a bigger topic than just Class 345 progress.

I've created a new thread to cover this:
Crossrail testing

 

[matt_world2004]

Theres a 9 car class 345 parked at paddington regularly in the evening on the platform after the hex platforms by burger king. I tried boarding it the other day thinking it was going to hayes.

I dont think its platform 5 holding up the 9 cars at hayes. But the building work on platform 3 which has shortened usable platform space.

 

[JW16]

At Liverpool Street at roughly 16:45 today all 4 of the electric line platforms (15 through 18) contained 345s! Two to Shenfield, two to Gidea Park. First time I've seen that.

 

[eaet]

I'm not sure if I've missed this above but just seen a 345 in sidings just beyond Maidenhead. Have they ventured out this far before?

 

[matt_world2004]

I'm not sure if I've missed this above but just seen a 345 in sidings just beyond Maidenhead. Have they ventured out this far before?

Yes. Before tfl rail west launched they regularly ran on test to reading and were stored st maidenhead sidings

 

[essex_commuter]

Seems like there were more 345 issues last night with reports of 3 in a row having to be taken out of service at Ilford due to CCTV issues?

 

[jimm]

A 345 is on display at the Rail Live show at Long Marston today and tomorrow - arrived from Derby on Monday towed by 37800.

Couple of pictures by Peter Tandy here http://www.petertandy.co.uk/Recentpics.html

 

[matthewmacleod]

Seems like there were more 345 issues last night with reports of 3 in a row having to be taken out of service at Ilford due to CCTV issues?

I understand this was a station equipment issue rather than a problem with the trains themselves.

 

[Buggleskelly]

Seems like there were more 345 issues last night with reports of 3 in a row having to be taken out of service at Ilford due to CCTV issues?

That probably explains why there were 3 of them side by side in the Gidea Park sidings around evening rush hour, which was rather chaotic.

 

[JW16]

I have been on a 345 which suffered "problems with CCTV" at a station. Are there new rules stating that the driver cannot close the doors and depart if they cannot see all of the platform CCTV pictures?

 

[essex_commuter]

I understand this was a station equipment issue rather than a problem with the trains themselves.

Thanks, I was basing my statement from what I saw on Twitter, but seems like it wasn't quite as reported!

 

[rebmcr]

I have been on a 345 which suffered "problems with CCTV" at a station. Are there new rules stating that the driver cannot close the doors and depart if they cannot see all of the platform CCTV pictures?

No, but there are old rules stating that.

 

[prod_pep]

Noted yesterday during PM peak just 6 Class 345s in service on the Shenfield route. There were 26 Class 315s (14 eight car sets) running to make up the peak requirement of 20 sets.

This seems like a low number of 345s in use, a year to the day since the first one entered service. Don't get me wrong: as a 315 fan, it's great to see them still dominant.

 

[cactustwirly]

Noted yesterday during PM peak just 6 Class 345s in service on the Shenfield route. There were 26 Class 315s (14 eight car sets) running to make up the peak requirement of 20 sets.

This seems like a low number of 345s in use, a year to the day since the first one entered service. Don't get me wrong: as a 315 fan, it's great to see them still dominant.

Don't forget that some of the 7 car sets are now operating out of Paddington as well, that may explain the low availbility of 345s in the east.

 

[superkev]

This month's Modern Railways TIN watch shows a MTIN (miles per technical incident of just 2027 miles.
Glad my comfy car is much more reliable and I don't have to risk trains anymore.. Poor show.
K

 

[samuelmorris]

I think a lot of the defects are due to the CCTV system but yes, as far as I can tell, the number of 345s in service is being kept to an absolute minimum to keep the number of faults in service down, since the 315s are almost an order of magnitude more reliable than the new stock. Doesn't really bode well for the core services, however, that no real progress has been made on unit reliability in 12 months apart from responding to a couple of safety recalls. I imagine this will probably be mitigated in part by leaving the LST high level services to Gidea Park to be run by 315s indefinitely, which of course also makes any slippage in the remodeling of Liverpool St less disruptive. That way the units that would originally have run those services can act as spares while the others are being worked on. I wonder if that will have any impact on timetabling, though. 315s are noticeably slower than 345s, you can often tell which type of unit is operating a service in times of minor disruption just by looking at whether it made up any time between stations.

 

[swt_passenger]

Don't forget that some of the 7 car sets are now operating out of Paddington as well, that may explain the low availbility of 345s in the east.

The June Modern Railways also explained that as of May TfL were only awaiting ORR to sign off paperwork for 9 car operations on the GW, the Hayes bay platform was completed by NR just in time, as previously discussed.

You wouldn’t think making a temporarily shortened train longer would be that taxing a problem for ORR, but that’ll be all that’s keeping those 7 cars in the West...

 

[trainmania100]

Did anyone see the picture of the one that smashed through the buffers?

 

[superalbs]

Did anyone see the picture of the one that smashed through the buffers?

Yes, number ten.

 

[JonathanH]

The June Modern Railways also explained that as of May TfL were only awaiting ORR to sign off paperwork for 9 car operations on the GW, the Hayes bay platform was completed by NR just in time, as previously discussed.

You wouldn’t think making a temporarily shortened train longer would be that taxing a problem for ORR, but that’ll be all that’s keeping those 7 cars in the West...

Not just Hayes, platform 14 at Paddington won't accommodate s 9-car 345.

 

[theking]

Think is pretty poor they don't have some kind of degraded dispatch procedure if the monitors don't work at one station.

Also someone's getting in trouble.

 

[dp21]

Think is pretty poor they don't have some kind of degraded dispatch procedure if the monitors don't work at one station.

Also someone's getting in trouble.

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Sometimes you can only laugh.

 

[AlexNL]

Train 1, buffer stops 0.

I hope that didn't cause too much damage.

 

[swt_passenger]

Not just Hayes, platform 14 at Paddington won't accommodate s 9-car 345.

That must depend if they can operate the service in other platforms at Paddington. Is P14 expected to be extended?

 

[trainmania100]

Driver error? Or did someone forget to apply the parking brake