Class 345 progress

[3973EXL]

07/03
5N04 345056 7
5G74/75 345013
5G50/51 345014 9

08/03
5N04 345015 7
5G74/75 345013
0922 345038 7
0952 345042 7
1022 345007
1052 345064 7
1122 345045
5G50/51 345014

09/03
0903 345017 7
5N04 345007
5G74/75 345013
0922 345029
0952 345045
5G50/51 345014

10/03
5G74/75 345014
5G50/51 345017 7

11/03
5G74/75 345010

 

[JonathanH]

The lists above show that 345014 has made it out onto test workings following its extension to 9-car formation.

Also of note I think is that 345037 may have been back in service yesterday on the Heathrow services. Confirmation welcome.

[Pictures show a screen shot of output from TrackIt! with headcode '5I37' cancelled at signal berth C313 having returned from Paddington on 5Y31 0015 London Paddington to Old Oak Depot ]

as well as 345009 which is now in service following its conversion.

[Pictures show a screen shot of output from TrackIt! with headcode '5I09' cancelled at signal berth C311 having returned from Paddington on 5Y33 0048 London Paddington to Old Oak Depot ]

Finally, 345019 appears to have been in use on tunnel workings

[Pictures show a screen shot of output from TrackIt! with headcode '5I19' cancelled at signal berth C313 having returned from Paddington on 5YY14 2308 Paddington Crossrail to Old Oak Depot ]

Reports elsewhere that 345019 is in service on Heathrow workings today (10 March)

 

[Vut]

345037 is on the 10:11 departure from Stratford - Liverpool St this morning (10-Mar)

 

[Wolves]

07/03
5N04 345056 7
5G74/75 345013
5G50/51 345014 9

08/03
5N04 345015 7
5G74/75 345013
0922 345038 7
0952 345042 7
1022 345007
1052 345064 7
1122 345045
5G50/51 345014

09/03
0903 345017 7
5N04 345007
5G74/75 345013
0922 345029
0952 345045
5G50/51 345014

10/03
5G74/75 345014
5G50/51 345017 7

Is it possible to give the full diagram for 5G50/51?
Thanks

 

[3973EXL]

1013

Is it possible to give the full diagram for 5G50/51?
Thanks

5G50 1013 Old Oak - Reading then you can follow on RTT G51 to Maidenhead CS - G52 Reading T1732 - G53 1358 to Old Oak

 

[Wolves]

1013

5G50 1013 Old Oak - Reading then you can follow on RTT G51 to Maidenhead CS - G52 Reading T1732 - G53 1358 to Old Oak

Thanks —am in London tomorrow morning so am hoping to get 345009/13/14/18.

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Anyone know if 345009/13/14/18 are out on test today?
Thanks

 

[sharpinf]

Thanks —am in London tomorrow morning so am hoping to get 345009/13/14/18.
Anyone know if 345009/13/14/18 are out on test today?
Thanks

Believe today it is 345 014 as 5G50 etc.

 

[Wolves]

Believe today it is 345 014 as 5G50 etc.

Thanks but only there for the morning .

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Anyone know if 345014 is on test today?
Thanks

 

[3973EXL]

14/03 Reading
0903 345025
5N04 345017 7
5G74/75 345014
0922 345059
0952 345026
1022 345064 7
1052 345038 7
1122 345025
5G50/51 345010

08/03
0903 345043
5N04 345053
5G74/75 345014
0922 345065
0952 345025
1022 345056 7
1052 345038 7
5G50/51 345010

09/03
0922 345031
5N04 345056 7
5G74/75 345011 9
5G50/51 345010

10/03
5N04 345065
5G74/75 345011
5G50/51 345010

 

[Wolves]

14/03 Reading
0903 345025
5N04 345017 7
5G74/75 345014
0922 345059
0952 345026
1022 345064 7
1052 345038 7
1122 345025
5G50/51 345010

Thanks

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Anyone know what’s happened to 345018–it’s not been out for a while.
Thanks

 

[JonathanH]

It looks like 345011 has completed its conversion to 9-car with the normal move out to the first signal outside the depot completed today. I think 345012 is next for conversion having not been 'seen' since the end of February and the remaining 7-cars 345015-17/38/42/56/64 all seen more recently.

[Picture shows a screen shot of output from TrackIt! with headcode '5I11' cancelled at signal berth C313 having travelled to signal berth 0142 around 1pm on 15 March]

It looks like 345013 and 345019 were both on tunnel workings today.


[Pictures show a screen shot of output from TrackIt! with headcode '5I13' and '5I19' cancelled at signal berth C313 and C311 having returned from Paddington Crossrail during the day today.]

Reports elsewhere suggest that 345041 worked Hayes shuttles today, marking its first appearance in passenger service, leaving just 345018, 345067 and 345069 to carry passengers now.

 

[Pinza48]

It looks like 345011 has completed its conversion to 9-car with the normal move out to the first signal outside the depot completed today. I think 345012 is next for conversion having not been 'seen' since the end of February and the remaining 7-cars 345015-17/38/42/56/64 all seen more recently.
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[Picture shows a screen shot of output from TrackIt! with headcode '5I11' cancelled at signal berth C313 having travelled to signal berth 0142 around 1pm on 15 March]

It looks like 345013 and 345019 were both on tunnel workings today.
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[Pictures show a screen shot of output from TrackIt! with headcode '5I13' and '5I19' cancelled at signal berth C313 and C311 having returned from Paddington Crossrail during the day today.]

Reports elsewhere suggest that 345041 worked Hayes shuttles today, marking its first appearance in passenger service, leaving just 345018, 345067 and 345069 to carry passengers now.

345041 was on the Hayes shuttles today.
345013, 019, 067 and 069 were 4 of the 18 x 345's seen at Custom House this evening doing Abbey Wood to Paddington

 

[Wolves]

Anyone know if 345011 or 18 are on test today?
Thanks

 

[Dstock7080]

345041 was on the Hayes shuttles today.

Are the Hayes shuttles still running? Did the new timetable not get introduced on Monday?

 

[3973EXL]

Anyone know if 345011 or 18 are on test today?
Thanks

5G74 etc 345011

 

[Wolves]

5G74 etc 345011

Thanks

 

[345 050]

019 037 and 041 all appear to be out West today on Heathrow services.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

019 037 and 041 all appear to be out West today on Heathrow services.

I need all three of those for haulage... is there a good chance they'll be out again tomorrow? I'm doing Cardiff, but I could of course return earlier than planned and bail out at Reading and do a triple hop between there and Paddington...

 

[JonathanH]

I need all three of those for haulage... is there a good chance they'll be out again tomorrow? I'm doing Cardiff, but I could of course return earlier than planned and bail out at Reading and do a triple hop between there and Paddington...

It doesn't necessarily follow that units out today will be out on passenger work tomorrow - they all finish at the depot tonight - I've never been able to discern any pattern about the number of days a unit will work concurrently.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

It doesn't necessarily follow that units out today will be out on passenger work tomorrow - they all finish at the depot tonight - I've never been able to discern any pattern about the number of days a unit will work concurrently.

That's the problem, because they don't appear on any of the usual sources either.

Hopefully someone will be able to post them tomorrow ( and I'll put a request on the TOPS thread in the morning ). Might even be able to eyeball some of what's out while on my way to Cardiff if I can get a seat on the right hand side of the IET...

 

[3973EXL]

Reading 21/03
5G52/53 345016 7
1320 345005
1352 345052
1422 345006
1452 345035
1522 345065
5G78/79 345011
1552 345005

22/03
5G74-9 Caped
1320 345056 7
5G52/53 345011

23/03
5G74 & 5G50 non runners

24/03
0922 345050
5N04 345066
5G74/75 345011
5G50/51 345012 9

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I think 345012 is next for conversion having not been 'seen' since the end of February

12 shunting on the OTT map at Old Oak 158 approx 1330 -55 today.

22/03 1425
12 shunting again at Old Oak 142

 

[Wolves]

Reading 21/03
5G52/53 345016 7
1320 345005
1352 345052
1422 345006
1452 345035
1522 345065
5G78/79 345011
1552 345005


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12 shunting on the OTT map at Old Oak 158 approx 1330 -55 today.

Does that mean it is now a 9 car?
Thanks

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Anyone know if 345012 or 345018 are out today?
Thanks

 

[3973EXL]

Does that mean it is now a 9 car?
Thanks

Unknown - just discussing, from previous evidence that 12 could be the next and the process maybe underway.

 

[JonathanH]

22/03 1425
12 shunting again at Old Oak 142

Does that mean it is now a 9 car?
Thanks

Unknown - just discussing, from previous evidence that 12 could be the next and the process maybe underway.

Previous patterns would appear to suggest that the move to signal berth 0142 does represent a final depot stage of the conversion process. As noted above, it looks like 345012 has made that move today so presumably will be out soon.


[Picture shows a screen shot of output from TrackIt! with headcode '5I12' cancelled at signal berth C313 having travelled to signal berth 0142 around 2pm on 22 March]

I think 345015 is next as the unit not 'seen' for the longest time. 345012 certainly appears to have followed 345011 though the process quicker than previous units, as there has only been one week between those two units appearing.

 

[3973EXL]

24/03
5G50/51/52/53
345012 9

 

[Peter Sarf]

So, I have not kept track , what stage are the 345s at. Has anyone kept a tally.

Which ones are still 7-car ?.

I assume all 345s are delivered ?.

Which 345s have not turned a wheel much yet ?.

Which 345s are restricted to testing (in the tunnel) ?.

What have I not thought of ?.

 

[JonathanH]

So, I have not kept track , what stage are the 345s at. Has anyone kept a tally.

This thread does that.

Which ones are still 7-car ?.

345016/17/38/42/56/64. 345015 under conversion. 345012 now under test following conversion to 9-car (as noted above by '3973EXL').

345011/13/14 not yet carried passengers since conversion.

I assume all 345s are delivered ?.

Yes

Which 345s have not turned a wheel much yet ?.

None. 345018 appears to be the only one in that is currently elusive.

Which 345s are restricted to testing (in the tunnel) ?.

I'd imagine technically none now (or if there are some in that position it is a short term thing).

345018/67/69 are the only ones which haven't carried passengers on the TfL Rail routes. Both 345018 and 345067 have been reported running to Reading on 5Gxx workings in the past.

What have I not thought of ?.

Does anyone know which unit is currently being used for the Friday night testing on the Heathrow branch that requires a locomotive to come from Derby to drag the unit to Hayes & Harlington loop? If it were 345018 that is being used it might explain its elusiveness.

 

[Peter Sarf]

This thread does that.

345016/17/38/42/56/64. 345015 under conversion. 345012 now under test following conversion to 9-car (as noted above by '3973EXL').

345011/13/14 not yet carried passengers since conversion.

Yes

None. 345018 appears to be the only one in that is currently elusive.


I'd imagine technically none now (or if there are some in that position it is a short term thing).

345018/67/69 are the only ones which haven't carried passengers on the TfL Rail routes. Both 345018 and 345067 have been reported running to Reading on 5Gxx workings in the past.

Does anyone know which unit is currently being used for the Friday night testing on the Heathrow branch that requires a locomotive to come from Derby to drag the unit to Hayes & Harlington loop? If it were 345018 that is being used it might explain its elusiveness.

Thank you very much for the information @JonathanH. It is all getting tantalisingly close except iirc some 7-car 345s are still required for the short platform at Paddington until the core takes over the western services.

 

[Horizon22]

Thank you very much for the information @JonathanH. It is all getting tantalisingly close except iirc some 7-car 345s are still required for the short platform at Paddington until the core takes over the western services.

You would need to keep 2 for the diagrams (probably 3 as a backup). Or juggle platforms at Paddington to move them away from P14.

 

[Wolves]

Anyone know if 345012 or 345018 are on test today?
Thanks