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Class 175s to GWR

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Deepgreen

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The GWR green brand was still developed by First Group, even if it doesn’t have their name on it - it’s their branding identity which they developed, even if it will pass on to the DfT after they hand the control over to them. Same with Avanti West Coast, even if it doesn’t say First Group and Trenitalia on it, unlike with Trenitalia which was on c2c. Same with all of Govia’s various brands, and National Express’ various different liveries, such as “one”, before they changed them and put National Express on them. Just like Essex Bus is a First Bus brand identity, even if it doesn’t say First Bus on it.
Does anyone using the railway (apart from a few 'insiders') know or care that green livery equals First Group? In short, 'leaving a mark' only matters if it has a true commercial benefit - this doesn't. Again, though, I like the colour!
 

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The GWR green brand was still developed by First Group, even if it doesn’t have their name on it - it’s their branding identity which they developed, even if it will pass on to the DfT after they hand the control over to them. Same with Avanti West Coast, even if it doesn’t say First Group and Trenitalia on it, unlike with Trenitalia which was on c2c. Same with all of Govia’s various brands, and National Express’ various different liveries, such as “one”, before they changed them and put National Express on them. Just like Essex Bus is a First Bus brand identity, even if it doesn’t say First Bus on it.
It was all done with DfT when owning groups were all but removed from any branding, whatever opinions on this, the suggestion that First have done it to in order to leave their band out there is for the fairies.
 

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From those two videos, it sounds like the leading coach has a wheel flat. Is there a lathe at Laira?
 
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The green 175s are most certainly Painted and are not vinyl wrapped! Only bits of wrap on them are the logos and the cosmetic 'go faster' stripes.

It was all done with DfT when owning groups were all but removed from any branding, whatever opinions on this, the suggestion that First have done it to in order to leave their band out there is for the fairies.

RPI is correct here. Remember that the DfT have had to sign off on anything recently (since 2020) so this most certainly isnt a case of First Group leaving their mark - the repaint was signed off by the DfT!

Infact if we go back fo 2015, FGW rebranded to GWR for a few reasons, one being to honour and give a nod to the historic operator that once ran along the same route.
 

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