Class 175s to GWR

[northernbelle]

I would have thought that any stock being repainted anyway now should be into the GBR livery, despite the fact that I much prefer the GWR one. This begs the question of how much other stock is destined to be repainted as a matter of course in existing TOCs' liveries, rather than the GBR one, and thus how long each TOC might only have one 'show' train in the new livery.

There is a lead time on painting a train - clearly the first few 175s had the paint/body works contracted in before the instruction was given for GBR livery (noting they were announced on GWR in summer 2024, and GBR livery wasn't announced until December 2025). I suspect the first few will be green and they'll switch over at a sensible point in the work.

 

[Jrocks]

Looks as if it might be goodbye to the comfy TfW seats judging by that image

Nope, definitely the same seats inside, just in GWR colours - we havent lost the comfy seats luckily! Wont get onto another seat comfort debate though, thats dangerous territory.......

 

[3RDGEN]

Agreed and I was just about to post something similar. It has always disappointed me that when 175s have been repainted the side skirts have let them down by looking shabby.

Doesn't matter what you paint them in weeks/months they will be the mucky brown colour they are today, unless you constantly clean them. Should have been removed years ago to save time and improve cooling.

 

[Deepgreen]

I actually would have liked the GWR green to be the basis of the GBR livery - simple, understated and elegant. It would need tweaking to include visible and useful indications such as first class yellow stripes (as applied to the 769s) rather than the futile grey pencil stripe!

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There is a lead time on painting a train - clearly the first few 175s had the paint/body works contracted in before the instruction was given for GBR livery (noting they were announced on GWR in summer 2024, and GBR livery wasn't announced until December 2025). I suspect the first few will be green and they'll switch over at a sensible point in the work.

Fair point - I do tend to forget the huge lead time for refurbishments these days!

 

[XFeed]

Doesn't matter what you paint them in weeks/months they will be the mucky brown colour they are today, unless you constantly clean them. Should have been removed years ago to save time and improve cooling.

Yep the "mucky brown colour" isn't great.

The amount of times that the units had sustained heavy lineside debris strikes with the side skirts being pretty badly damaged at times and if they weren't fitted the equipment and wiring harness` behind would have been damaged instead, easier to replace skirts than rectify damaged equipment and wiring. 197s have been vulnerable to this.
If the maintenance regimes are followed cooling is ok.

 

[REVUpminster]

I think GBR colours, and I don't like the same bodyside being used on the trailer coaches, should be only used on the intercity trains.

A regional colour used on the local trains as England is still going to be divided up into regions.

 

[3RDGEN]

Yep the "mucky brown colour" isn't great.

The amount of times that the units had sustained heavy lineside debris strikes with the side skirts being pretty badly damaged at times and if they weren't fitted the equipment and wiring harness` behind would have been damaged instead, easier to replace skirts than rectify damaged equipment and wiring. 197s have been vulnerable to this.
If the maintenance regimes are followed cooling is ok.

How many "Thermal Events" occurred by oil leaks being hidden/missed due to the skirts preventing visual inspection on daily Service Checks?

 

[BillStampy]

175006 lost 43 minutes at Bodmin Parkway 2C32. Unsure why 006 has been cleared for service as looking at RTT it's only been on one day of round trips for milage accumulation which surely can't amount to the full 1000 miles, unless someone has something to say that proves me wrong otherwise.
Edit: Just assuming 006 has a fault, by the way, it could be for a completely different reason!

 

[REVUpminster]

006 seems to be the only one out today.

 

[Apedlar12]

175006 lost 43 minutes at Bodmin Parkway 2C32. Unsure why 006 has been cleared for service as looking at RTT it's only been on one day of round trips for milage accumulation which surely can't amount to the full 1000 miles, unless someone has something to say that proves me wrong otherwise.
Edit: Just assuming 006 has a fault, by the way, it could be for a completely different reason!

GWR journey check saying the delay is due to a fault on the train. Interestingly it is also saying that it will be formed of 1 coach instead of 2.

 

[CR165022]

GWR journey check saying the delay is due to a fault on the train. Interestingly it is also saying that it will be formed of 1 coach instead of 2.

One coach locked out perhaps?

 

[83G/84D]

One coach locked out perhaps?

Indeed running with one coach locked out due to a door fault.

 

[Harpo]

Maybe at the moment, keeping GBR livery away from the 175s is a sensible bit of reputational protection?

 

[BillStampy]

Indeed running with one coach locked out due to a door fault.

Better than cancelling the service short.

 

[Doomotron]

I haven't been keeping up with the 175 situation for a while - has GWR got all the 175s now or are they still only leading the whole fleet bar one? And have the interiors changed in the repainted units? I know the seats are the same but I don't know if the moquette or carpet has been updated.

 

[XFeed]

How many "Thermal Events" occurred by oil leaks being hidden/missed due to the skirts preventing visual inspection on daily Service Checks?

Some oil leaks on top of the engine combined with the unfortunate build up of leaf debris also on top of the engine were not the majority of the thermal events, even if the skirts were not fitted you cannot see the top of the engine in that area except when in a pit.

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Indeed running with one coach locked out due to a door fault.

Unusual for one car completely unable to be used do to a door fault, bodyside door I assume, unless its one of the No1 end doors and if the fault could not be rectified enroute in TfW days the unit would be withdrawn at the next major station or maintenance depot.