Class 175s to GWR

[XFeed]

With the exception of 008/101 it could be done, but I doubt they will consider it worth the effort.

I agree as I can`t think of a worthwhile reason to do so and they have more immediate matters on their plate just now I would suggest.

 

[Apedlar12]

Going by the above then; Train database is already updated.

Ely :2: 175008, 175104 (175008 is in two halves)

Wolverton : 9 : 175005. 175102/103/105/106/107/108/109/110

Laira : 14: 175002/007/009, 175114 ex Ely; 175001/003/006/011, 175101/111/112/113/115/116 ex Wolverton

Exeter : 1 : 175004 ex Wolverton

Long Rock : 1 : 175010 ex Ely

as of 1 July 2026

Half of 008 is now at Wolverton.

 

[BillStampy]

Produced this list for their transfer process, including dates of their Wolverton arrivals and departures and their current locations. Any corrections are very much welcomed as I do make silly mistakes!

Class 175 Status List --- Last Updated: July 1st

175001 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 3, 2025, Wolverton Departure: November 5, 2025)
175002 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175003 Laira (Wolverton arrival: March 3, 2025, Wolverton Departure: September 18, 2025)
175004 Exeter TMD (Wolverton Arrival: January 30, 2026) (Wolverton Departure: June 23rd, 2026)
175005 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: July 1st, 2026)
175006 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 23, 2025, Wolverton Departure: December 10, 2025)
175007 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175009 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175010 Penzance T.R.S.M.D. (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175011 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 23, 2025, Wolverton Departure: December 10, 2025)
175101 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 10, 2025, Wolverton Departure: January 23 2026)
175102 Wolverton (Wolverton arrival: October 30, 2025)
175103 Wolverton (Wolverton arrival: March 27, 2026)
175104 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings
175105 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 27, 2026)
175106 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: July 24, 2025)
175107 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 19, 2025)
175108 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 19, 2025)
175109 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: April 16, 2026)
175110 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: January 30, 2026)
175111 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 9, 2025, Wolverton Departure: March 20, 2026)
175112 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 24, 2025, Wolverton departure: February 20, 2026)
175113 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 10, 2025, Wolverton departure: May 15, 2026)
175114 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175115 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 9, 2025, Wolverton departure: April 13, 2026)
175116 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 30, 2025, Wolverton departure: May 28, 2026)

 

[XFeed]

How many of the Wolverton units have been actually used on passenger service or training ?

 

[BillStampy]

How many of the Wolverton units have been actually used on passenger service or training ?

8.
There's 3 that haven't been used since they arrived from Wolverton at all, those being:

175004
175113
175116

 

[XFeed]

8.
There's 3 that haven't been used since they arrived from Wolverton at all, those being:

175004
175113
175116

Thanks.

More have been used than I anticipated,

 

[brad465]

Produced this list for their transfer process, including dates of their Wolverton arrivals and departures and their current locations. Any corrections are very much welcomed as I do make silly mistakes!

Class 175 Status List --- Last Updated: July 1st

175001 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 3, 2025, Wolverton Departure: November 5, 2025)
175002 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175003 Laira (Wolverton arrival: March 3, 2025, Wolverton Departure: September 18, 2025)
175004 Exeter TMD (Wolverton Arrival: January 30, 2026) (Wolverton Departure: June 23rd, 2026)
175005 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: July 1st, 2026)
175006 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 23, 2025, Wolverton Departure: December 10, 2025)
175007 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175009 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175010 Penzance T.R.S.M.D. (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175011 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 23, 2025, Wolverton Departure: December 10, 2025)
175101 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 10, 2025, Wolverton Departure: January 23 2026)
175102 Wolverton (Wolverton arrival: October 30, 2025)
175103 Wolverton (Wolverton arrival: March 27, 2026)
175104 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings
175105 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 27, 2026)
175106 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: July 24, 2025)
175107 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 19, 2025)
175108 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 19, 2025)
175109 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: April 16, 2026)
175110 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: January 30, 2026)
175111 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 9, 2025, Wolverton Departure: March 20, 2026)
175112 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 24, 2025, Wolverton departure: February 20, 2026)
175113 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 10, 2025, Wolverton departure: May 15, 2026)
175114 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175115 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 9, 2025, Wolverton departure: April 13, 2026)
175116 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 30, 2025, Wolverton departure: May 28, 2026)

The units in bold here must be in a really bad state that they've been there for that long and still not left yet.

 

[BillStampy]

The units in bold here must be in a really bad state that they've been there for that long and still not left yet.

I thought that too, however it could also be units that were marked for the refurb and have had that work carried out. But it could also be a combination of both. Depends on what unit appears in green first to confirm whether that's true or not.

 

[Apedlar12]

I suppose also they may have had an order of which units were going to be worked on first, so those ones could be some of the later ones to have the work carried out.

 

[REVUpminster]

Today 175001/002/003/007 all started but don't seemed to have finished being cancelled.

 

[BillStampy]

Today 175001/002/003/007 all started but don't seemed to have finished being cancelled.

002 has no issues.
003 has been pulled from training to cover 001

009 and 115 never made it off depot.

 

[XFeed]

Today 175001/002/003/007 all started but don't seemed to have finished being cancelled.

That`s not great !

Have all four units failed this morning and are being returned to Laira ?

Just seen @BillStampy post same time as mine, do we have any reasons as to what faults have inflicted them today ?

 

[Wyrleybart]

Produced this list for their transfer process, including dates of their Wolverton arrivals and departures and their current locations. Any corrections are very much welcomed as I do make silly mistakes!

Class 175 Status List --- Last Updated: July 1st

175001 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 3, 2025, Wolverton Departure: November 5, 2025)
175002 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175003 Laira (Wolverton arrival: March 3, 2025, Wolverton Departure: September 18, 2025)
175004 Exeter TMD (Wolverton Arrival: January 30, 2026) (Wolverton Departure: June 23rd, 2026)
175005 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: July 1st, 2026)
175006 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 23, 2025, Wolverton Departure: December 10, 2025)
175007 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175009 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175010 Penzance T.R.S.M.D. (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175011 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 23, 2025, Wolverton Departure: December 10, 2025)
175101 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 10, 2025, Wolverton Departure: January 23 2026)
175102 Wolverton (Wolverton arrival: October 30, 2025)
175103 Wolverton (Wolverton arrival: March 27, 2026)
175104 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings
175105 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 27, 2026)
175106 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: July 24, 2025)
175107 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 19, 2025)
175108 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 19, 2025)
175109 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: April 16, 2026)
175110 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: January 30, 2026)
175111 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 9, 2025, Wolverton Departure: March 20, 2026)
175112 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 24, 2025, Wolverton departure: February 20, 2026)
175113 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 10, 2025, Wolverton departure: May 15, 2026)
175114 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton)
175115 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 9, 2025, Wolverton departure: April 13, 2026)
175116 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 30, 2025, Wolverton departure: May 28, 2026)

Thanks very much for this list Bill.
I notice from another forum that the unit known as 175004 is actually made up of the driving cars from 175109. so presumably 50704 and 79704 are still at Wolverton. also guess the in "175004" still carry their original 507 and 797 car numbers.
Obviously this is not the only misformed class 175 in service.

 

[CR165022]

Thanks very much for this list Bill.
I notice from another forum that the unit known as 175004 is actually made up of the driving cars from 175109. so presumably 50704 and 79704 are still at Wolverton. also guess the in "175004" still carry their original 507 and 797 car numbers.
Obviously this is not the only misformed class 175 in service.

Correct, however 175004 is the only 175 made up completely of something else, all other misformed sets have at least one correct carriage in them.

It's not a direct swap either as 50704 is in 175109 but 79704 is actually in 175101, which also has 50708 from 175008

 

[XFeed]

If I remember rightly and happy to be corrected as it was a couple of years back but I think 004, 005, 006, 101,109 and possibly 115 were all "hybrids" and of course we are aware of 008s misfortune.

 

[BillStampy]

I just realised - 175009 has been at Penzance overnight so why did they allocate it to a diagram today from Laira in the first place if it wasn't even there.

 

[Eoch]

That`s not great !

Have all four units failed this morning and are being returned to Laira ?

Just seen @BillStampy post same time as mine, do we have any reasons as to what faults have inflicted them today ?

From what I was seeing 003 on 2nd of July was doing Newquay while its 150 was dead.

 

[REVUpminster]

The Paignton run was on today but nothing came up with 175115 from Laira.

 

[RPI]

Just seen an internal "Project Update", 2 diagrams that involve Barnstaple and Okehampton are due to go to 175 operation on 31/08/26.

The next step up after that is May 2027, according to this document.

 

[REVUpminster]

Just seen an internal "Project Update", 2 diagrams that involve Barnstaple and Okehampton are due to go to 175 operation on 31/08/26.

The next step up after that is May 2027, according to this document.

It's Okehampton to free up two 150s. I'd hope it will be three cars as the Interchange station should be open by then.

They are probably frightened to use them at Barnstaple as one diagram goes to Axminster and the other to Paignton..

 

[brad465]

Just seen an internal "Project Update", 2 diagrams that involve Barnstaple and Okehampton are due to go to 175 operation on 31/08/26.

The next step up after that is May 2027, according to this document.

GWR must be banking on a lot of reliability issues being sorted by then, along with Exeter driver training on the units.

 

[superalbs]

GWR must be banking on a lot of reliability issues being sorted by then, along with Exeter driver training on the units.

Well it does give them nearly a year.

 

[brad465]

Well it does give them nearly a year.

Barnstaple and Okehampton is end of next month, that's what I was referring to.

 

[superalbs]

Barnstaple and Okehampton is end of next month, that's what I was referring to.

Ah, understood!

 

[XFeed]

GWR must be banking on a lot of reliability issues being sorted by then, along with Exeter driver training on the units.

I`m hoping that is the case also.

 

[RPI]

Barnstaple and Okehampton is end of next month, that's what I was referring to.

Looking at the update, it only lists one diagram of Barnstaple and one of Barnstaple/Okehampton so likely to start off they'll run between 15x units.

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It's Okehampton to free up two 150s. I'd hope it will be three cars as the Interchange station should be open by then.

They are probably frightened to use them at Barnstaple as one diagram goes to Axminster and the other to Paignton..

Only one diagram is listed so will only free one 150 and 1 158

 

[Parallel]

Looking at the update, it only lists one diagram of Barnstaple and one of Barnstaple/Okehampton so likely to start off they'll run between 15x units.

That feels risky, I can’t imagine trying to rescue a failed 175 on the Barnstaple line with a 158 on the service in front of it and a 158 behind it would be much fun.

 

[BillStampy]

I would like to say today has been arguably the best day we've seen in a while with the only slip up being with 002 briefly but had it's issues resolved quickly so didn't cause any problems. One diagram was replaced by a 150 but I'd hope that'd be resolved by next week. 4 diagrams tomorrow and 3 on Sunday so hopefully they run fault free. 003's been a high performer on the Newquay runs too.

 

[Apedlar12]

Another move from Wolverton to Exeter is now scheduled for this Tuesday.

It says that it is pathed as a 158 or 175, so I would guess it is probably going to be a 175, however the 150 that was supposed to come back down this week didn't, so it could also be that...

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K01360/2026-07-07/detailed

 

[tfw756rider]

Another move from Wolverton to Exeter is now scheduled for this Tuesday.

It says that it is pathed as a 158 or 175, so I would guess it is probably going to be a 175, however the 150 that was supposed to come back down this week didn't, so it could also be that...

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K01360/2026-07-07/detailed

158/168/170/175 at 100mph rather than 90mph is a 168/170/175 timing load, so, 175.

There's a separate 150/153/155/156 at 75mph timing load for 150s.