Class 175s to GWR

[BillStampy]

Does anyone have any insight into why it's taking significantly longer for the 3-car units to enter service than the 2-cars...? It's been over 2 months since 175101 went down and 175114 has been at LA since mid-December.

 

[TheLastMinute]

Does anyone have any insight into why it's taking significantly longer for the 3-car units to enter service than the 2-cars...? It's been over 2 months since 175101 went down and 175114 has been at LA since mid-December.

I suspect it may be case of getting more trains into service quicker. Focusing on the 2-car units gives 3 trains for every 6 vehicles completed verse 2 trains with 3-car units.

 

[FGW_DID]

Does anyone have any insight into why it's taking significantly longer for the 3-car units to enter service than the 2-cars...? It's been over 2 months since 175101 went down and 175114 has been at LA since mid-December.

I suspect it may be case of getting more trains into service quicker. Focusing on the 2-car units gives 3 trains for every 6 vehicles completed verse 2 trains with 3-car units.

There are no 175/1 working diagrams that require them to be out in traffic. Moot point as the majority of them are stopped anyway for ongoing maintenance post storage, exam work and waiting parts.

 

[REVUpminster]

The only advantage I can see is they can have a four car train to practise coupling and uncoupling and working as a pair. A three car will have to be tried coupled with a two car soon.

 

[Rhydgaled]

I believe I've seen at least half of 008 at Wolverton, not Ely.

What's in a TOPS number anyway? If I recall correctly, many of the class 175 units are not in their as-built formations. If so, it's possible that half of what was once '175008' is now part of a different unit and '175008' could therefore be in two different locations at once depending on exactly how you choose to define '175008'.

 

[CR165022]

What's in a TOPS number anyway? If I recall correctly, many of the class 175 units are not in their as-built formations. If so, it's possible that half of what was once '175008' is now part of a different unit and '175008' could therefore be in two different locations at once depending on exactly how you choose to define '175008'.

175004 isn't even 175004 anymore, both of its carriages are from 175109!

The half of 175008 that was seen at Wolverton is in 175101, the other half is the fire damaged one, the good half replaced the damaged one from 101, so basically a straight swap on those two.

 

[northernbelle]

What's in a TOPS number anyway? If I recall correctly, many of the class 175 units are not in their as-built formations. If so, it's possible that half of what was once '175008' is now part of a different unit and '175008' could therefore be in two different locations at once depending on exactly how you choose to define '175008'.

For the avoidance of doubt then - in my post I chose to define '175008' as the vehicles that originally comprised that set - 50708 and 59708.

The non-fire damaged vehicle from the original 175008 - 50708 - is now formed as part of 175101 and that is the vehicle at Wolverton.

 

[tfw756rider]

For the avoidance of doubt then - in my post I chose to define '175008' as the vehicles that originally comprised that set - 50708 and 59708.

50708 and 79708 you mean

 

[Roger B]

For the avoidance of doubt then - in my post I chose to define '175008' as the vehicles that originally comprised that set - 50708 and 59708.

The non-fire damaged vehicle from the original 175008 - 50708 - is now formed as part of 175101 and that is the vehicle at Wolverton.

Not forgetting that 175101 (with 50708) is no longer at Wolverton - it moved down to Laira on 23rd Jan this year.

 

[BillStampy]

There are no 175/1 working diagrams that require them to be out in traffic. Moot point as the majority of them are stopped anyway for ongoing maintenance post storage, exam work and waiting parts.

Thank you. Assuming one will be added in as we approach Easter now...!

 

[brad465]

Assuming this is for 175(s) and not 156s, another Ely-Wolverton drag is currently planned for Friday:

Realtime Trains | 7Q70 0830 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings | 27/03/2026

Real-time train running information for 7Q70 0830 departure from Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings on 27/03/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[fgwrich]

Assuming this is for 175(s) and not 156s, another Ely-Wolverton drag is currently planned for Friday:

Realtime Trains | 7Q70 0830 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings | 27/03/2026

Real-time train running information for 7Q70 0830 departure from Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings on 27/03/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Hopefully so as last weeks was cancelled.

 

[The exile]

Assuming this is for 175(s) and not 156s, another Ely-Wolverton drag is currently planned for Friday:

Realtime Trains | 7Q70 0830 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings | 27/03/2026

Real-time train running information for 7Q70 0830 departure from Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings on 27/03/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Unless it’s just an entry mistake, what carriages would it be gaining or losing At Northampton?

 

[REVUpminster]

Unless it’s just an entry mistake, what carriages would it be gaining or losing At Northampton?

It seems to often have losing or gaining carriages. Maybe it's a timing thing to gain time or lose time.

 

[CR165022]

Unless it’s just an entry mistake, what carriages would it be gaining or losing At Northampton?

It's not, it's just being held there so 1Y36 can stay Infront.

 

[D6975]

175​	001	50701​		79701​
175​	002	50702​		79702​
175​	003	50703​		79703​
175​	004	50759​		79759​
175​	005	50705​		79751​
175​	006	50706​		79765​
175​	007	50707​		79707​
175​	008	50751​		79708​
175​	009	50709​		79709​
175​	010	50710​		79710​
175​	011	50711​		79711​
175​	101	50708​	56751​	79704​
175​	102	50752​	56752​	79752​
175​	103	50753​	56753​	79753​
175​	104	50754​	56754​	79754​
175​	105	50755​	56755​	79755​
175​	106	50756​	56756​	79756​
175​	107	50757​	56757​	79757​
175​	108	50758​	56758​	79758​
175​	109	50704​	56759​	79705​
175​	110	50760​	56760​	79760​
175​	111	50761​	56761​	79761​
175​	112	50762​	56762​	79762​
175​	113	50763​	56763​	79763​
175​	114	50764​	56764​	79764​
175​	115	50765​	56765​	79706​
175​	116	50766​	56766​	79766​

 

[XFeed]

Thanks for posting the car numbers within the units as I had forgotten how many "hybrid units" we actually had in the fleet at the end, just over a quarter.

 

[fgwrich]

Assuming this is for 175(s) and not 156s, another Ely-Wolverton drag is currently planned for Friday:

Realtime Trains | 7Q70 0830 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings | 27/03/2026

Real-time train running information for 7Q70 0830 departure from Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings on 27/03/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Well it’s certainly running, are we 156 or 175s?

 

[BuhSnarf]

175004 isn't even 175004 anymore, both of its carriages are from 175109!

It's the Trigger's Broom of the train world...

 

[Apedlar12]

Well it’s certainly running, are we 156 or 175s?

Showing on railcam currently as being 175103 and 175105

 

[BillStampy]

Extra Saturday diagram added, 175009 allocated to the diagram starting 2C05 0515 Plymouth - Penzance tomorrow morning.

 

[REVUpminster]

Ely : 4: 175005/008, 175104/109 (175008 is in two halves)

Wolverton :11 : 175004, 175102/103/105/106/107/108/110/113/115/116

Laira : 11: 175002/007/009, 175114 ex Ely; 175001/003/006/011, 175101/111/112 ex Wolverton

Long Rock : 1 : 175010 ex Ely

as of 27 March 2026

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Extra Saturday diagram added, 175009 allocated to the diagram starting 2C05 0515 Plymouth - Penzance tomorrow morning.

Strange that 175s that haven't been through Wolverton seem to be the most used.

 

[RPI]

Extra Saturday diagram added, 175009 allocated to the diagram starting 2C05 0515 Plymouth - Penzance tomorrow morning.

Spare units can now be used for covering other diagrams on the mainline subject to there being available crew to work them.

 

[BillStampy]

Spare units can now be used for covering other diagrams on the mainline subject to there being available crew to work them.

Reel out the 3-cars!

 

[Jrocks]

Is today going to be the day we see a 3 car out in passenger service............

 

[RPI]

Is today going to be the day we see a 3 car out in passenger service............

Well you'd be the one most likely to have that info!

 

[The exile]

Is today going to be the day we see a 3 car out in passenger service............

RTT seems to think so (114 on 10.14 Plym - Penz). As we now know, RTT “sets the timetable” so it must be right!

 

[REVUpminster]

RTT seems to think so (114 on 10.14 Plym - Penz). As we now know, RTT “sets the timetable” so it must be right!

It's a job for Saltash Camera which seems to have gone off line for some time. Odd they using trains that haven't been to Wolverton?

 

[fgwrich]

Nice to see 114 out and about again and in service at last!

(3 screenshots from the Saltash webcams of 175114 crossing the Royal Albert Bridge)

 

[REVUpminster]

Nice to see 114 out and about again and in service at last!

(3 screenshots from the Saltash webcams of 175114 crossing the Royal Albert Bridge)

I found a different live broadcast on another site to what I normally use (It's the same camera), but it didn't let me wind back to 1025hrs