BillStampy
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Just realised that some of these training runs are headed to Newquay this week, is this a first?
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Yep, today’s run is in the hands of 175002.
REVUpminster
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Realtime trains have started using the 175 avatar from today.
The Prisoner
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001/007 and 002 out for pretty much the full day today.
002 has already been to Penzance from Plymouth, is then returning to Par and Newquay 5Z21 0622 Plymouth to Newquay heading back to Plymouth 5Z22 1219 Newquay to Plymouth before revisiting Newquay 5Z23 1423 Plymouth to Par and heading back to Penzance from Par and finishing up at Plymouth 5Z24 1716 Par to Plymouth
001/007 out all day back and forth to Penzance with some short runs only as far as Par - started with 5Z12 0616 Plymouth to Par to Penzance and back as far as Par then back to Penzance and onto Plymouth 5Z13 0941 Par to Plymouth then onto Penzance and back to Par 5Z14 1401 Plymouth to Par before heading back to Penzance and finally Plymouth 5Z15 1809 Par to Plymouth
In a show of skills all three units (allegedly) being coupled together for the goodnight trip to Laira 5Z16 2135 Plymouth to Laira T.& R.S.M.D
All seems to be running to plan so far.
Would 001/007 allow for double crew training? How long does a crew have to work on these before they are signed off?
Hopefully making some serious progress to getting more of these in service very soon.
002 has already been to Penzance from Plymouth, is then returning to Par and Newquay 5Z21 0622 Plymouth to Newquay heading back to Plymouth 5Z22 1219 Newquay to Plymouth before revisiting Newquay 5Z23 1423 Plymouth to Par and heading back to Penzance from Par and finishing up at Plymouth 5Z24 1716 Par to Plymouth
001/007 out all day back and forth to Penzance with some short runs only as far as Par - started with 5Z12 0616 Plymouth to Par to Penzance and back as far as Par then back to Penzance and onto Plymouth 5Z13 0941 Par to Plymouth then onto Penzance and back to Par 5Z14 1401 Plymouth to Par before heading back to Penzance and finally Plymouth 5Z15 1809 Par to Plymouth
In a show of skills all three units (allegedly) being coupled together for the goodnight trip to Laira 5Z16 2135 Plymouth to Laira T.& R.S.M.D
All seems to be running to plan so far.
Would 001/007 allow for double crew training? How long does a crew have to work on these before they are signed off?
Hopefully making some serious progress to getting more of these in service very soon.
Ashley Hill
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Two days for guards. One day has to be a pair for TUDI training and assessment.
They better be careful which end 002 is coupled to then, as one end had a Non-Multi sticker in the cab window yesterday (presumably after the Liskeard incident).
Presumably with the Plymouth - Totnes blockade on, the 1338 and return are being worked with IETs this week as today’s turn has been allocated to 802022.
Yep that's what they're diagrammed to do. All 3 come off Laira coupled together, at the start of day as well.
REVUpminster
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5Z15 arrives at 2125 platform 5, 5Z24 2130 at platform 5, although expected 2040 at platform 5. 5Z16 to Laira from platform 5 so I suppose it was planned for the three units to go together.
REVUpminster
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At the moment 175002 is about 6/7 minutes behind 175007+001.
REVUpminster
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So two units can do it, but not three? 5Z24 has gone to Laira as 5Z25.
An afterthought next morning; could they just uncouple the units at the platform at Friary Junction?
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This is good. Maybe they are coupled up before reversing in Laira.
Realtime Trains | 5Z11 0528 Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Plymouth | 26/02/2026
Real-time train running information for 5Z11 0528 departure from Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Plymouth on 26/02/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
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BillStampy
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RTT's allocation doesn't always speak the truth, 5Z10 Laira to Plymouth was 175002, I assume.This is good. Maybe they are coupled up before reversing in Laira.
Realtime Trains | 5Z11 0528 Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Plymouth | 26/02/2026
Real-time train running information for 5Z11 0528 departure from Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Plymouth on 26/02/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
CR165022
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Given the platforms they went in on, 009/001 were on the VST 5Z10 and 002 was on 5Z11
northernbelle
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It is - the Newquay branch benefits from having already been gauge cleared for 175s, presumably as a result of the original Class 180 gauge clearance activity in the early 2000s.
Other routes, including Barnstaple and Okehampton, will need to be gauge cleared (if they haven't been already).
And with the new infrastructure there are presumably spare paths easily available.
Goldfish62
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Must be loads. The current service pattern is two-hourly. From May it's hourly plus two through London services daily.
brad465
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There's an item in RAIL this week about the 175's delayed entry. It highlights the issues that have arisen from long term storage, but also has optimism, including their lengthy presence at Laira with issues is helping train up various staff more quickly, while a TfW engineer has visited Laira to assist, along with collaboration with Alstom.
The Prisoner
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003/011 and 009 out on the training turns today. These runs seem to have run without hitch over the last week or so? 001/002/003/007/009 and 011 seem to be performing OK, but I think 007 hasn't had the mods at Wolverton?
Anyway....hopefully with all these training runs and gained knowledge we can see more than 1 turn per day very soon.
Anyway....hopefully with all these training runs and gained knowledge we can see more than 1 turn per day very soon.
Glad to see reliability has improved.
As a side note about post #2539 and this is by no means meant to be critical or disrespectful of the Tfw engineer who visited Laira to assist but TfW engineers at Canton and outstations only had general basic knowledge of 175`s and their fault finding/repairs were mostly advised by Chester Technicians.
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Anonymous10
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May be an ex chester engineer who has transfered? Or an engineer from chester and some wires got crossed.
Possible but I think unlikely as all shop floor staff transferred to CAF in June 2022 including day and shift Technicians but its a guess on my part now as I`m not at Chester depot now.
But some time in sunny Devon and Cornwall could be quite appealing
Anonymous10
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Who is to say like you they havent moved on from chester?Possible but I think unlikely as all shop floor staff transferred to CAF in June 2022 including day and shift Technicians but its a guess on my part now as I`m not at Chester depot now.
But some time in sunny Devon and Cornwall could be quite appealing
That is a possibility, I agree, but there were only 7 day and shift 175 Technicians on the shop floor.
1 attached to each of the 5 shift teams, 1 cover Tech for annual leave and sickness and 1 repair bay Tech.
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Bringback309s
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Sunny?Possible but I think unlikely as all shop floor staff transferred to CAF in June 2022 including day and shift Technicians but its a guess on my part now as I`m not at Chester depot now.
But some time in sunny Devon and Cornwall could be quite appealing
Sunny?
"Sunny"
Maybe that was an exaggeration on my part as I believe the weather down there has been pretty rubbish for a while.
57 consecutive days of rain this year isn’t rubbish, but the 60 days of consecutive rain 5 years ago is
northernbelle
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One local business was describing it as 857 days of rain this year! It had certainly started to feel that way.57 consecutive days of rain this year isn’t rubbish, but the 60 days of consecutive rain 5 years ago is
BillStampy
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175006 is allocated to be out tomorrow for the first time under GWR on training duties, 175002 on the passenger run.