Class 175s to GWR

[Wyrleybart]

Depends whether or not their livery will be green with silver stripey stuff.

Well of course. Nut a white train with blobs of green would look more "at home" than a white train with blobs of red.

 

[REVUpminster]

Th

Sundays move was quoted elsewhere as 150232 which failed at Northampton and returned to Wolverton. Consequently Mondays 5H71 was cancelled. Tomorrows move to Laira does look to be a genuine 175 move rather than a second attempt for 150232, but I could be wrong.

They tried last Wednesday to send a 175/s to Laira; cancelled at the last minute. It is a second attempt. Nothing to do with the 150.

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Realtime Trains | 5V84 1014 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. | 29/10/2025

Real-time train running information for 5V84 1014 departure from Wolverton Centre Sidings to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. on 29/10/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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[Snow1964]

Realtime Trains | 5V84 1014 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. | 05/11/2025

Real-time train running information for 5V84 1014 departure from Wolverton Centre Sidings to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. on 05/11/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Another go tomorrow.

Unlike first delivery which ran via Chippenham, Bath, Bristol. It appears tomorrows goes via Newbury and Castle Cary.

Last weeks move got cancelled.

As a number of units have been at Wolverton over 4 months, will be interesting to see if just one unit makes the journey, or more than one coupled up. Surely they can complete more than one about every 3 weeks.

 

[tfw756rider]

Well of course. Nut a white train with blobs of green would look more "at home" than a white train with blobs of red.

Out of the two, yes. They'll be re-liveried, put it that way.

 

[Snow1964]

Out of the two, yes. They'll be re-liveried, put it that way.

At the moment it looks like nationalisation is keeping old names and liveries.

From memory there were some 165, 166 turbo that kept their old First colours until about 2 years ago. So having everything in a new livery seems to be very low priority.

Go to SWR suburban, and will still find trains in SWT red, and they lost the contract over 8 years ago. So changing colours is very gradual

 

[tfw756rider]

At the moment it looks like nationalisation is keeping old names and liveries.

From memory there were some 165, 166 turbo that kept their old First colours until about 2 years ago. So having everything in a new livery seems to be very low priority.

Go to SWR suburban, and will still find trains in SWT red, and they lost the contract over 8 years ago. So changing colours is very gradual

We shall see what happens.

 

[Siemens Staines]

Th

They tried last Wednesday to send a 175/s to Laira; cancelled at the last minute. It is a second attempt. Nothing to do with the 150.

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Realtime Trains | 5V84 1014 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. | 29/10/2025

Real-time train running information for 5V84 1014 departure from Wolverton Centre Sidings to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. on 29/10/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Fair enough, I got confused with the multiple 5V84s which is something that is easily done!

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Out of the two, yes. They'll be re-liveried, put it that way.

What source have you for that sorry?

 

[tfw756rider]

What source have you for that sorry?

Oh oops. *They may or may not be re-liviered, and if they are re-liveried, it will be into one livery or another. There, hope that's OK

 

[REVUpminster]

5V84 is on the move. I hope to see it on Dawlish Cams unless it's running too early or late.

 

[northernbelle]

Th

They tried last Wednesday to send a 175/s to Laira; cancelled at the last minute. It is a second attempt. Nothing to do with the 150.

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Realtime Trains | 5V84 1014 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. | 29/10/2025

Real-time train running information for 5V84 1014 departure from Wolverton Centre Sidings to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. on 29/10/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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On its way - just passed it at Acton. A single 2-car unit running under its own power, still in TfW livery.

I believe the return from storage work is being done as a separate process to the interior/exterior GWR refresh which should follow.

 

[tfw756rider]

On its way - just passed it at Acton. A single 2-car unit running under its own power, still in TfW livery.

I believe the return from storage work is being done as a separate process to the interior/exterior GWR refresh which should follow.

The interior/exterior refresh, in any case.

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What does this mean?

 

[Ashley Hill]

What does this mean?

It probably refers to the urban myth about the names of characters from the 1970s children’s program Captain Pugwash.

 

[Peter C]

Realtime Trains says 175007 is out today (05/11/2025), having just worked 5Z12 0626 Plymouth - Plymouth (via Newton Abbot and Penzance). TrainMapper says 114 is out, however, and a three-car 175 went through Plymouth heading east just a short while ago, so I assume it's actually 114 which is out?

-Peter

 

[tfw756rider]

It probably refers to the urban myth about the names of characters from the 1970s children’s program Captain Pugwash.

Ah, thanks.

 

[Express380]

175001 On todays move Wolverton-Laira for those interested according to sightings.

 

[REVUpminster]

2 car 175 passed Dawlish Cams at 1602. Still white and red. Too quick and small to make numbers out. Seems a shame they won't move 2 or 3 units at once.

 

[Express380]

2 car 175 passed Dawlish Cams at 1602. Still white and red. Too quick and small to make numbers out. Seems a shame they won't move 2 or 3 units at once.

001 As previously mentioned, have seen pictures of it passing Newbury Racecourse and Exeter St Thomas

 

[Snow1964]

I think situation is now :

Stored at Ely
175 004, 005, 010 (3x2 car)
175 103, 104, 105, 109, 110 (5x3 car)
and 175008 which is not formed as a unit

Wolverton Works :
175 006, 011 (2x2 car)
175 101, 102, 106, 107, 108, 111, 112, 113, 115, 116 (10x3 car)

Laira :
175 001, 003 (2x2 car with Wolverton updates)
175 002, 007, 009 (3x2 car for training)
175 114 (1x3car for training).

Edit, corrected 002 and 003

 

[150249]

I think situation is now :

Stored at Ely
175 004, 005, 010 (3x2 car)
175 103, 104, 105, 109, 110 (5x3 car)
and 175008 which is not formed as a unit

Wolverton Works :
175 006, 011 (2x2 car)
175 101, 102, 106, 107, 108, 111, 112, 113, 115, 116 (10x3 car)

Laira :
175 001, 002 (2x2 car with Wolverton updates)
175 003, 007, 009 (3x2 car for training)
175 114 (1x3car for training).

003 has Wolverton upgrades, not 002

 

[tfw756rider]

003 has Wolverton upgrades, not 002

I was going to say.

 

[The Prisoner]

There isn’t any need for an internal refresh on these units - TFW did one only about 18 months before they stopped using them.

TFW refurbs 175s from 2022

 

[tfw756rider]

There isn’t any need for an internal refresh on these units - TFW did one only about 18 months before they stopped using them.

TFW refurbs 175s from 2022

A new internal refresh (to replace the 2019-2022 one) would be to match whatever livery the units get re-liveried into, not because there's a need for it.

 

[REVUpminster]

175001 motoring along yesterday.

 

[mic505]

I think situation is now :

Stored at Ely
175 004, 005, 010 (3x2 car)
175 103, 104, 105, 109, 110 (5x3 car)
and 175008 which is not formed as a unit

Wolverton Works :
175 006, 011 (2x2 car)
175 101, 102, 106, 107, 108, 111, 112, 113, 115, 116 (10x3 car)

Laira :
175 001, 003 (2x2 car with Wolverton updates)
175 002, 007, 009 (3x2 car for training)
175 114 (1x3car for training).

Edit, corrected 002 and 003

Is GWR taking 20 175's for traffic, leaving 6 at Ely as spares donor in lieu of 175008?

 

[Snow1964]

Is GWR taking 20 175's for traffic, leaving 6 at Ely as spares donor in lieu of 175008?

Taking all 27
26 for use and other for spares

 

[DelW]

A new internal refresh (to replace the 2019-2022 one) would be to match whatever livery the units get re-liveried into, not because there's a need for it.

That seems like a waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere. I regularly travel on trains whose livery and upholstery is that of a TOC that disappeared over eight years ago, and it doesn't seem to matter to most passengers. They just need to clearly show GWR logos so that passengers with GWR-only tickets know they can use them.

 

[The exile]

That seems like a waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere. I regularly travel on trains whose livery and upholstery is that of a TOC that disappeared over eight years ago, and it doesn't seem to matter to most passengers. They just need to clearly show GWR logos so that passengers with GWR-only tickets know they can use them.

Ok they should get logos, but how many GWR only tickets are there where they’re going? Don’t mean train specific advances.

 

[DelW]

Ok they should get logos, but how many GWR only tickets are there where they’re going? Don’t mean train specific advances.

I've no idea, but I'm guessing that they may overlap with XC at least, either now or in the future.

 

[tfw756rider]

The logo of the train operator should be shown, certainly.