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class 150 / 153 combo on Snow Hill line.

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Actually thinking about it. Hereford would lose at 2 car to Rugeley whilst a 3 car 170 goes the other way. So the 07:05 Malvern - New Street could actually be increased from 4 to 5 cars.
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I always thought 170's accelerated better than 150's.


150s accelerate far better than 170s, they did on the Cannock line anyway.
 
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150s have superior acceleration to a 170.
170s have a superior top speed to a 150.
172s are supposed to have the best of both worlds.
 
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with some of the class 150/0 units being split so there class 150/2 acting centre cars can be transferred on, how is this affecting the class 150 / 153 combo on the Stourbridge to Dorridge line.

Can anyone tell me what units are operating the service today.
 

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with some of the class 150/0 units being split so there class 150/2 acting centre cars can be transferred on, how is this affecting the class 150 / 153 combo on the Stourbridge to Dorridge line.

Can anyone tell me what units are operating the service today.
I don't know about today but last Wednesday it was 150002 and 153334 operating the Snow Hill 150+153 diagram. From reading through this thread it appears that 150002 is the usual partner in crime for this combo working.
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What I don't get is why put 170s on the Snow Hill lines? — just order the second batch of 172s!
Absolutely agreed: The twenty six additional 172 vehicles that LM have the option of ordering would be ample for working the four diagrams on the Chase line while still leaving enough additional units to provide extra capacity on the Snow Hill lines.

To my knowledge, the Chase line diagrams currently call for 1 x 170/5, 1 x 170/6 and 1 x 170/5+153, plus an additional peak time diagram that utilises a 170/5, sometimes with a 153 attached.
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No a good idea taking 170s away from the Herefords, it's bad enough now at peak times with 4/5 car formations.
If LM have the slack in their 170 fleet that is suggested by the number of 170s visible at Tyseley at most times of the day (Though I don't know for sure), then I wonder if it would be possible to replace one of the 170/6s on the Hereford services with a pair of 170/5s, increasing the capacity of that diagram from three to four carriages.
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That is not a good idea. The 170s acceleration is for cross country routes, not local stoppers. They will never keep to time. I did see a picture from May 2011, with a 3 car LM 170 on tests going through Dorridge. Although it is greater comfort, it won't be for timing and the 172s from the passenger video by simonthetrains, they seem to accelerate just like a 150.
Agreed: I reckon that 170s will prove to be poor time keepers on the regular stop Snow Hill lines, even if they are kept to the more limited stop services.
 

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To my knowledge, the Chase line diagrams currently call for 1 x 170/5, 1 x 170/6 and 1 x 170/5+153, plus an additional peak time diagram that utilises a 170/5, sometimes with a 153 attached.

I have to correct you. The Chase Line is currently worked by four diagrams;

2 x 170/5's

1 x 170/5+153

1 x 170/6

There are two additional diagrams in the morning peak;

1 x 170/5

1x 170/6

I think there is also an extra 170/5 used in the evening to opporate the 21:17 Birmngham - Rugeley and it's return working.
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I've been wondering about how the LM 170 fleet is allocated.

Can anyone tell me which platforms on the New Street to Hereford and Shewsbury lines have short platforms.

Am I correct in thinking that Billbrook, Bromsgrove, Colwall and Ledbury can only take 3 car trains?
 

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Bromsgrove can take 4 cars north and 3 cars south respectively, or is it the other way round? :?
 
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can anyone tell me what unit combo been working the dorridge to stourbridge services this week mon - fri please (class 150 / 153 combo only). cheers
 
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Can anyone tell me what the 153 / 150 combo was on the Dorridge - Stourbridge diagram today Monday 10th Oct.

cheers
 

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153365 with a UID hybrid 150 on the 06.47 Worcester - Dorridge this morning. I assume the hybrid to be 012 as that was the pairing yesterday but could be equally 001/002 or 019, as I was on 015 when it passed me and it wasnt blue!
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153365+150002 on 06.45 Worcester Shrub Hill - Dorridge and
08.28 return off Dorridge today
 
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