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Deep fried Mars Bars have already been mentioned upthread. Can't say I've ever tried one, although that's maybe because I've never been a big fan of Mars Bars.

Deep fried (Steak) pies I have tried, and the pastry, not unsurprisingly, tends to be somewhat rock hard! :rolleyes:
Sorry, haven't read the whole thread. I would think that plunging pastry into oil at about 160C would put paid to just about any pleasant qualities it may have had! :'(. I understand that Cadbury's Cream Eggs have also been given the McTreatment (sorry if it's been mentioned).
 
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Thoughts anyone as regards the practice of deep frying pies, which tend to be prevalent North of the Border?

I've had the occasional pie supper, but I'm not overly keen; I find that the pastry tends to go soggy. I was never very keen on deep-fried pizza either, but that particular delicacy seems to be fading away now as most of the chippies around here do proper oven-baked pizzas.
 

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I've had a deep-fried Mars bar once or twice... a bit of a novelty, not something I'd recommend anyone eats every day!

Round my way, some of the chippies are Muslim owned, so tend to use non-brewed condiment rather than vinegar (as vinegar can be viewed as alcoholic, depending on how strict one is). On the other hand, the Muslim owned shops are for obvious reasons less likely to cheap out by using lard instead of beef dripping. Regardless of the religious persuasion of the owners though, the worst a chippy can do is use vegetable oil!
 

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...the worst a chippy can do is use vegetable oil!
Would suggest the worst a chippy can do is keep on using the same old frying oil (of whatever type) for too long and therefore not changing it sufficiently frequently.
 

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Deep fried (Steak) pies I have tried, and the pastry, not unsurprisingly, tends to be somewhat rock hard! :rolleyes:
I presumed they were pre-cooked.
Would suggest the worst a chippy can do is keep on using the same old frying oil (of whatever type) for too long and therefore not changing it sufficiently frequently.
Ah, I lived near one these said chippies. My mum said 'Don't go, they don't change the oil', thought I'd try it anyway.
Let's just say this chippy would clear out your digestive system in a few hours.
Once bitten and not twice shy I thought it was a coincidence so went back.. and that was the last time!
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A relative went in to a chip-shop in Portsmouth about 30 years ago:
'Pudding, chips, peas, scraps and gravy, please'
Chippy bloke said 'We don't do puddings'
'chips, peas, scraps and gravy then, please'
Chippy bloke said 'We don't do gravy'
.. and so on..
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Takeaway Chippies in Lewisham (well, it's only a few and not a kebab/pizza/burger we do all joint) are very expensive, it's like a birthday or anniversary or whatever event treat.
 

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It's a 24 ton capacity BR-era ballast hopper, isn't it?

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'Dogfish' railway hopper. Source: Bluebell Railway website.

Anyhoo, shame on you for dragging this non-railway thread off topic, this being a railway forum and all! ;)
Oh come on! :D
I’m lead to believe that there’s no truth in the rumours that during the electrification of Skipton there was absolutely no confusion when a PW supervisor in a local chippy had an order come through regarding the need for a Shark, several Dogfish, a Walrus and several Seacows for ballasting purposes 8-)
 

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Oh come on! :D
I’m lead to believe that there’s no truth in the rumours that during the electrification of Skipton there was absolutely no confusion when a PW supervisor in a local chippy had an order come through regarding the need for a Shark, several Dogfish, a Walrus and several Seacows for ballasting purposes 8-)

I'm sure a Walrus supper could probably feed everyone on a possession, although there'd be no point in blubbering if it didn't taste very nice...

(Coat fetched and I'm on my way out the door)
 

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For the OP and the mention of Manchester's staple diet, to wit Hollands Steak and Kidney puddings / mushy peas ( or meat and potato pie) heaven on a plate as they say, many years ago in my innocence, went into a chippy in leafy Bucks and asked for this only to be greeted with a " ugh ? " look.

Some time later, encountered desecration !....cheesy chips !...in the Midlands. The chippy opposite the Llandudno Tram station justifiably won awards but, being fair to foreign parts, Yorkshire, Whitby has to be top of the league.

The worst was definitely in Neasden...the fish "bore a very close resemblance " to those sold in supermarkets and the peas to ball bearings.
 

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The chippy opposite the Llandudno Tram station justifiably won awards but, being fair to foreign parts, Yorkshire, Whitby has to be top of the league.
I guess the south-western equivalent to Whitby might be Brixham, where the local fishing fleet ensures your fish is caught, filleted and fried within hours. Certainly I've had a very nice meal there. Beware of seagulls if eating outside though!
 

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I've had the occasional pie supper, but I'm not overly keen; I find that the pastry tends to go soggy. I was never very keen on deep-fried pizza either, but that particular delicacy seems to be fading away now as most of the chippies around here do proper oven-baked pizzas.
Have to agree about the pizza. You have reminded me of s most unpleasant experience in St Heller (Jersey) a long time ago. Fish chips and pizza all cooked in the same way, although the pizza was not battered. Disgusting! Didn't return, but tried a Wimpy* down the road. The chips, when unwrapped, formed a large soft lump of oily soft potato, equally disgusting.

GZ

* Many well-known brands can be seen there, whose only connection with the UK "parent" is a licensing agreement. M&S, WHS, Waitrose come to mind. Wimpy must have soldiered on there long after the brand had been retired in UK.

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Batter tastes different in England, more bitter.

I think it comes down to the fat it is fried in.

Bitter batter is better in butter.

GZ (I didn't take my coat off to begin with)
 

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Many well-known brands can be seen there, whose only connection with the UK "parent" is a licensing agreement. M&S, WHS, Waitrose come to mind. Wimpy must have soldiered on there long after the brand had been retired in UK.
Apparently there are 63 Wimpys in England and 3 in Scotland.


WIMPY66 Locations in the United Kingdom​

 

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About 30 years ago we used a chip shop somewhere on the outskirts of York. The one and only time I have had crinkle cut chips from a fish and chip shop.
 

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There's a fish-and-chip shop in Cowes, Isle of Wight, whose wares are supposed to be outstandingly good. They may well be; but -- attempting to use the place (which I'll refrain from "naming and shaming") on a recent visit to the Island, I found its way of functioning so exasperating, that I did not get as far as sampling the food. The premises are small: it's takeaway only; the "system" appears to be, that patrons first queue up to go in one or two at a time and place their orders; they then queue up again outside the shop until said orders are ready. (Maybe this is in itself, not so strange; but service at this place proved to be glacially slow.)

Initially, I "dropped a brick" by going inside before it was my turn. Having then waited outside (lengthily) as was proper; the customer before me, and I, went inside when our turns came. There were two staff in the shop; one lady was very slowly assembling orders for folk waiting outside -- the other bod seemed to be doing nothing whatever. "A minute or three" passed, without anything being done to take the order of the person ahead of me. I'd been getting progressively more irritated; finally I thought, "oh, this is insane" -- and walked out, and went to get something to eat at an establishment whose behaviour was more normal.
 

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There's a fish-and-chip shop in Cowes, Isle of Wight, whose wares are supposed to be outstandingly good. They may well be; but -- attempting to use the place (which I'll refrain from "naming and shaming") on a recent visit to the Island, I found its way of functioning so exasperating, that I did not get as far as sampling the food. The premises are small: it's takeaway only; the "system" appears to be, that patrons first queue up to go in one or two at a time and place their orders; they then queue up again outside the shop until said orders are ready. (Maybe this is in itself, not so strange; but service at this place proved to be glacially slow.)

Initially, I "dropped a brick" by going inside before it was my turn. Having then waited outside (lengthily) as was proper; the customer before me, and I, went inside when our turns came. There were two staff in the shop; one lady was very slowly assembling orders for folk waiting outside -- the other bod seemed to be doing nothing whatever. "A minute or three" passed, without anything being done to take the order of the person ahead of me. I'd been getting progressively more irritated; finally I thought, "oh, this is insane" -- and walked out, and went to get something to eat at an establishment whose behaviour was more normal.
That's how my regular chippy worked during the C@@@d restrictions. Most staff would bring your order out to your car if you chose to wait there. Handy if it was raining, very cold or very hot.
 

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My local chippy, on the Wight and less than five miles from Cowes, also worked this way during Covid. Go in at one end, wait there if there was already someone at the till, or wait outside until you could go in (no more than two ordering in a group, so maximum four in the shop). Order your meal and then hang around on the pavement outside the exit door, which was by the till. Your receipt had a number and the staff shouted out the number: you went in the exit and collected your food. Later they had an electronic board with the numbers on.
 

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My local chippy, on the Wight and less than five miles from Cowes, also worked this way during Covid. Go in at one end, wait there if there was already someone at the till, or wait outside until you could go in (no more than two ordering in a group, so maximum four in the shop). Order your meal and then hang around on the pavement outside the exit door, which was by the till. Your receipt had a number and the staff shouted out the number: you went in the exit and collected your food. Later they had an electronic board with the numbers on.

Ah ! The above, and @Dai Corner's post -- with the Cowes place: maybe a hangover from Covid; that didn't occur to me. Numbered receipts or equivalent, would have been a good idea -- not used by this joint which aroused my displeasure -- one suspected that they thought their customers were telepathic.
 

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When I moved to Southampton for uni in 1978 I went to a chippie in search of mushy peas, but instead was offered a ‘pea fritter’ which was as disgusting as it sounds. I have never seen this anywhere else, so perhaps it was a specialty of the place.
 

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When I moved to Southampton for uni in 1978 I went to a chippie in search of mushy peas, but instead was offered a ‘pea fritter’ which was as disgusting as it sounds. I have never seen this anywhere else, so perhaps it was a specialty of the place.
I've once seen that offered elsewhere, can't remember where exactly, but it was also politely declined. Sounds like something a penny-pinching chippy proprietor might do to use up unsold mushy peas!
 

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I realise the point is to get food prepared to take away, but yesterday I was inspired by this thread to make mushy peas: 250g of dried marrowfat peas soaked overnight with 2tbsp bicarbonate of soda, washed well and then boiled in 650ml water for 30 minutes, add butter, mint, lemon, pepper and salt. Very nice!
 

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During covid my local took orders by Facebook Messenger. On the day you sent in your order and preferred time and they sent you back a slot close to that. Let them avoid too many people being there at the same time. I think they also allowed telephone orders once they arrived at the shop for the day's prep.
 

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I guess the south-western equivalent to Whitby might be Brixham, where the local fishing fleet ensures your fish is caught, filleted and fried within hours. Certainly I've had a very nice meal there. Beware of seagulls if eating outside though!
The quality and freshness of the fish is always going to be good in places like Brixham where the fish is actually landed. Some of the best fish I have ever had from a fish and chip shop was in Hastings right next to the boats. Right around the coast of the UK I have had some very good fish and it is often much better than that from your average inland chippy.

Perhaps controversial here, as it’s a matter of personal taste, but I think Whitby and other places in Yorkshire beat them all due to the taste of the batter. The fish may not be any fresher in Whitby than Brixham but the combination of the haddock and the Yorkshire batter wins for me. I don’t know what is different about the batter in most of Yorkshire, apart from perhaps frying in beef dripping, but for me it makes Yorkshire in general the best place for fish and chips in the country, and I’m not from Yorkshire. It’s not just those on the coast but many well inland in West Yorkshire that to me seem to produce better tasting fish and chips than in other parts of the country. The best ones to me are the small local back street shops and those in villages which are usually known as Fisheries, not fish and chip shops or chippys. Also in Yorkshire there’s usually no skin on the fish and generally no bones.
 

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IDoes anyone go to 'award winning' fish and chip shops? There's one I go to near Croydon (when I'm in the area) that is award winning, and is expensive (£10 for small cod and chips), but I like the way they always cook the fish when you order it and that seems to make a difference. When you walk in, the lady at the till asks you what you want and then she shouts to the kitchen "2 cod!" (or whatever you ordered) and then you wait. You pay just before the fish is cooked. There's another one near Woking I like. Both these places have a restaurant attached.
There was a fish and chip shop elsewhere in South London near to where my sister lived that was awarded the title of 'Best Fish and Chip Shop in London' by the Evening Standard newspaper back in the 1990s. The immediate result was that the place was heaving at all hours and the prices rocketed. I visited it over a period of years and each time quality had declined, but the shop still proudly displayed the accolades, conveniently excising any dates and prices. The last time, though, the food was not far short of inedible. It was takeaway only and the only chip shop near to my sister, in case you wonder why I still went there.
 

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The quality and freshness of the fish is always going to be good in places like Brixham where the fish is actually landed. Some of the best fish I have ever had from a fish and chip shop was in Hastings right next to the boats. Right around the coast of the UK I have had some very good fish and it is often much better than that from your average inland chippy.
Mrs T's in Southwold harbour fits this description. Very good.
 

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Mrs T's in Southwold harbour fits this description. Very good.
I remember going there about 5 years ago. Queued for a long time, but worth every minute. Fish was lovely and so large the lid of the box couldn't be closed.
 

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Where does our fish come from? I asked a crew landing fish at Aberdyfi where his catch goes he said it goes off to Holyhead and not straight into the local restaurants or chippy. My local market gets it's Fish from Cornwall even though the countries largest bay is 3 miles away. The Chip Shop buy off suppliers or the Fish Market with the lorry passing the fishermans van going the other way.
And it's been realised so much of our Chip Shop white fish comes from Russian Trawlers who are going to be under increased tariffs
 
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My local advertises that the fish is fresh daily from Grimsby, and the potatoes are from a farm near Boston.
 

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As a vegetarian living in Yorkshire, I'm going to be very controversial here and recommend Blakeley's fish & chip shop in Canal Street, Brighouse. Unusually for West Yorkshire, they cook in vegetable oil and change it regularly....their potato & cheese croquettes and chips are to die for and my fish-eating friends (and wife) inform me that the fish is wonderful. Apparently it's fresh, white, succulent and lightly battered to give a crisp and non-soggy covering and the portions are extremely generous. Furthermore, they are right opposite the award-winning Market Tavern micro-pub, which will be happy for you to bring in your fish & chips to enjoy with an excellent pint or two of locally-brewed real ale. Then, when you're all done, it's less than ten minutes' walk to Brighouse rail station in one direction, or the bus station in the other.
 

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Where does our fish come from? I asked a crew landing fish at Aberdyfi where his catch goes he said it goes off to Holyhead and not straight into the local restaurants or chippy. My local market gets it's Fish from Cornwall even though the countries largest bay is 3 miles away. The Chip Shop buy off suppliers or the Fish Market with the lorry passing the fishermans van going the other way.
And it's been realised so much of our Chip Shop white fish comes from Russian Trawlers who are going to be under increased tariffs
Yet no chippy in Penzance, a mile from the largest fishing port at Newlyn, serves fish sourced locally: neither does Newlyn's only chippy!
 
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