Chiltern Loco Hauled

[justinsteam]

Has anyone travelled on the Chiltern Railways service consisting of the hired 67-hauled Mk3 trains formerly operated by WSMR?

I have seen them running on the Chiltern Mainline, but I cannot find any mention of them on their website.



Mod edit - various chiltern threads merged on 24/05/11

Edit: For the benefit of those who find this topic through Google searches, Current diagrams (regularly updated) can be found on another topic. This topic is out of date.

 

[Cherry_Picker]

The ex WSMR coaches are very nice inside. They have a restaurant car, declassified first class, free WiFi and all the fixtures and fittings are new. A few more will be running around as of next week when the summer timetable is implemented. Scheduled 67+Mk3 services are:

Up
05:43 Moor Street - Marylebone (Solihull, Dorrdige, Warwick, Warwick PW, Banbury, Bicester)
06:14 Moor Street - Marylebone (Solihull, Dorridge, Warwick PW, Leamington, Banbury)
06:53 Banbury - Marylebone (Bicester, Haddenham, P Risboro)
10:55 Moor Street - Marylebone (Solihull, Warwick PW, Leamington, Banbury, Bicester)
15:55 Moor Street - Marylebone (Solihull, Warwick PW, Leamington, Banbury, Bicester, Haddenham, Wycombe)

Down
08:20 Marylebone - Moor Street (Bicester, Banbury, Leamington, Warwick PW, Solihull)
13:20 Marylebone - Moor Street (Bicester, Banbury, Leamington, Warwick PW, Solihull)
16:30 Marylebone - Moor Street (Bicester, Banbury, Leamington, Warwick PW, Dorridge, Solihull)
18:06 Marylebone - Banbury (P Risboro', Haddenham, Bicester)
18:30 Marylebone - Moor Street (Bicester, Banbury, Leamington, Warwick, Warwick PW, Dorridge, Solihull)



I think I have the stopping patterns correct, though I only glanced at the timetable so there may be mistakes. Currently the MYB-BAN service doesnt use refurbs, it is the set you might have seen with old BR and Virgin coaches on it. I assume that wont change, but you never know.

 

[justinsteam]

Interesting information

 

[anthony263]

I am planning on getting at leat 1 trip on these when i do my ALR in september

 

[Railjet]

Thanks for this, Cherry Picker.

Unfortunately, the 10:55 ex-Moor St arrives Marylebone at 12:55, so OPRs aren't valid!:-x

I love the comment on the Chiltern Railways timetable briefing:

In particular we have made strides to:
- provide additional seats in the rush hours, to address many of the overcrowding issues which have developed
- operate more locomotive hauled trains, which our passengers tell us they like

Other TOCs, take note.

 

[TomJ93]

Well a £25 Super off peak is valid on the 10:55 on the Monday Bank Holiday.

I'll be doing that as an outbound and the 18:30 as the return, happy days!

 

[oversteer]

I walk past one of these sets each day - always wonder, why have they painted the DVT in Chiltern colours (albeit without any branding) but not the loco ?

 

[ainsworth74]

I walk past one of these sets each day - always wonder, why have they painted the DVT in Chiltern colours (albeit without any branding) but not the loco ?

The loco's are still (as far as I'm aware) being provided to Chiltern by DBS so really it's up to DBS if they choose to paint any locos into the Chiltern livery. They did do it for WSMR so they might eventually do it for Chiltern as well.

 

[Cherry_Picker]

I've heard that they still havent finalised a design for the loco livery.

 

[ainsworth74]

I've heard that they still havent finalised a design for the loco livery.

That's also an option, to be honest I don't follow livery's to closely so in fact it could well be that the design isn't finished yet!

 

[sprinterguy]

I walk past one of these sets each day - always wonder, why have they painted the DVT in Chiltern colours (albeit without any branding) but not the loco ?

That DVT (82302) has been painted in Chiltern colours ever since it was released to service after refurbishment, with Wrexham and Shropshire. Someone will know, but I'm not sure why it was painted as such at that time.

 

[thefab444]

Well a £25 Super off peak is valid on the 10:55 on the Monday Bank Holiday.

I'll be doing that as an outbound and the 18:30 as the return, happy days!

Would they be running then, surely Bank Holiday Monday is a Saturday service so a Class 168 will be provided?

 

[Chris B]

Unfortunately, the 10:55 ex-Moor St arrives Marylebone at 12:55, so OPRs aren't valid!:-x

Yes, they are - arrivals after 1000.

Do you mean SUPER OP tickets, oper chance?

I don't think the LHCS run on bank holidays, so you want to pick another day.

The silver coaches will be re-branded with Chiltern decals - at the same time as they go to have electric plug doors fitted.

 

[Railjet]

Yes, they are - arrivals after 1000.

Do you mean SUPER OP tickets, oper chance?

I don't think the LHCS run on bank holidays, so you want to pick another day.

The silver coaches will be re-branded with Chiltern decals - at the same time as they go to have electric plug doors fitted.

OPR = Super Off-Peak return, valid for arrivals into London after 13:00.

 

[TomJ93]

5 minutes too early!

 

[saracen43]

The ex WSMR coaches are very nice inside. They have a restaurant car, declassified first class, free WiFi and all the fixtures and fittings are new. A few more will be running around as of next week when the summer timetable is implemented. Scheduled 67+Mk3 services are:

Up
05:43 Moor Street - Marylebone (Solihull, Dorrdige, Warwick, Warwick PW, Banbury, Bicester)
06:14 Moor Street - Marylebone (Solihull, Dorridge, Warwick PW, Leamington, Banbury)
06:53 Banbury - Marylebone (Bicester, Haddenham, P Risboro)
10:55 Moor Street - Marylebone (Solihull, Warwick PW, Leamington, Banbury, Bicester)
15:55 Moor Street - Marylebone (Solihull, Warwick PW, Leamington, Banbury, Bicester, Haddenham, Wycombe)

Down
08:20 Marylebone - Moor Street (Bicester, Banbury, Leamington, Warwick PW, Solihull)
13:20 Marylebone - Moor Street (Bicester, Banbury, Leamington, Warwick PW, Solihull)
16:30 Marylebone - Moor Street (Bicester, Banbury, Leamington, Warwick PW, Dorridge, Solihull)
18:06 Marylebone - Banbury (P Risboro', Haddenham, Bicester)
18:30 Marylebone - Moor Street (Bicester, Banbury, Leamington, Warwick, Warwick PW, Dorridge, Solihull)



I think I have the stopping patterns correct, though I only glanced at the timetable so there may be mistakes. Currently the MYB-BAN service doesnt use refurbs, it is the set you might have seen with old BR and Virgin coaches on it. I assume that wont change, but you never know.

Sorry to go over old ground but are these extra diagrams definately starting next week, in a another thread it was saying they may not be up and running untill decembers timetable.

 

[Chris B]

Sorry to go over old ground but are these extra diagrams definately starting next week, in a another thread it was saying they may not be up and running untill decembers timetable.

Definitely starting next week, except Bank Holidays, I understand, as a modified Saturday service usually runs.

 

[Cherry_Picker]

Sorry to go over old ground but are these extra diagrams definately starting next week, in a another thread it was saying they may not be up and running untill decembers timetable.

Yes, they are starting next week.

As has been mentioned earlier, they almost certainly wont run on bank holidays. We only have two bank holidays (last Monday in May, last Monday in August) when the line will be affected by Evergreen 3 works anyway.

 

[Chris B]

And the whole fortnight prior to that August Bank holiday!!

 

[Cherry_Picker]

Indeed. *puts feet up*

 

[saracen43]

Definitely starting next week, except Bank Holidays, I understand, as a modified Saturday service usually runs.

Oh great thats good news, will be looking to catch the 10.55 next week. Much prefer travelling in MK3s with nice big tables.

 

[DarloRich]

I have an unused off peak return to use between marylebone and moor astreet. I would like to use it on a weekend and i wondered if Chiltern ran any loco hauled trains over the weekend? If so, when? Thanks

 

[RPM]

No, there are no scheduled loco hauled services on the weekend.

 

[60163]

Could someone post the weekday timingsfor the loco-hauled turns purleez, I keep losing them. :P

 

[323235]

05:46 Birmingham Moor Street to London Marylebone (a.07:52)
16:33 London Marylebone to Birmingham Moor Street (a.18:35)

06:53 Banbury to London Marylebone (a.08:11)
18:06 London Marylebone to Banbury (a.19:27)

From next week

05:43 Birmingham Moor Street - Marylebone (as currently)
06:53 Banbury - Marylebone (as currently)
06:14 Birmingham Moor Street - Marylebone
10:55 Birmingham Moor Street - Marylebone
15:55 Birmingham Moor Street - Marylebone

08:20 Marylebone - Birmingham Moor Street
13:20 Marylebone - Birmingham Moor Street
16:30 Marylebone - Birmingham Moor Street (as currently)
18:06 Marylebone - Banbury (as currently)
18:30 Marylebone - Birmingham Moor Street

 

[DarloRich]

No, there are no scheduled loco hauled services on the weekend.

bu**er :cry:

 

[saracen43]

Can anyone tell me what was on the 08.20 M,bone to Moor st this morning,thanks.

 

[150219]

67012+82305

 

[Techniquest]

05:43 Birmingham Moor Street - Marylebone (as currently)
06:53 Banbury - Marylebone (as currently)
06:14 Birmingham Moor Street - Marylebone
10:55 Birmingham Moor Street - Marylebone
15:55 Birmingham Moor Street - Marylebone

08:20 Marylebone - Birmingham Moor Street
13:20 Marylebone - Birmingham Moor Street
16:30 Marylebone - Birmingham Moor Street (as currently)
18:06 Marylebone - Banbury (as currently)
18:30 Marylebone - Birmingham Moor Street

Thanks for those, I'll have to write them into my notebook for when I next get out on a Daytripper!

 

[saracen43]

67012+82305

Cheers for the gen, do you or anyone else in the forum know the full list of 67s chiltern will be using on a regular basis, ie which numbers.