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Funny how FB's report function makes no provision in its "reasons" list for pages like this one which attempt to encourage illegal activities.
 
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I think Sky 'news' also need an a*se kicking for promoting this. Why do they have to do it; it isn't 'news' in the slightest, any more than it would be 'news' to promote somebody who sells drugs or has gives advice on how to steal cars etc.

Nice one, idiots :roll:

Judging by the utterly illiterate, intelligence-free specimens who appear to be posting on the site, I doubt very much whether it has produced much more fare evasion than was already happening. Hopefully what it will do is encourage the inspectors to simply move around more, which in turn will simply catch more people out, so perhaps it might even assist them in a roundabout way!
 

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But if they hadn't would we be talking about it now?

No, it would just be a lowly FB page that nobody cared about much. Instead, how many regular Metro users, even those who usually pay, are looking at this and weighing it up?

There is no excuse for putting crap like this in the so-called 'news', it benefits all the wrong people and simply serves to promote illegality. If during the riots somebody had set up a FB page detailing areas where it was safe to go looting, would that have been ok too? What's the difference?!
 

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So I am not the only one trying to spoil their silliness. ;)

I must have posted about 20 "updates" on their website.
 

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I suspect the person that set this up will find his group blocked and himself barred very soon.

How do I know this? Because a few years ago we set up a group, which also allowed people to comment. It spread and people started to argue amongst themselves. Me and my friend had got bored by then, and should have closed it (hindsight is a wonderful thing). We didn't and let it carry on totally unsupervised as neither of us had time to keep up with all the comments posted 24/7.

Facebook stepped in and deleted the group and chucked us both off FB for not keeping people in line (as if we had any way to do so). It seems FB isn't so bothered about the actual members that cause the abuse.

I can see from this group that there are some vicious arguments going on between users, so the more reports FB gets the more obvious it is that it will be closed down. FB won't care about the subject matter. It won't be to protect 'checkies' or anything.

In fact, FB is really not suited for such groups. All they want are companies to use it to advertise to people, and pay FB money, not for protest groups and the like. The fact so many survive is more down to the sheer size of the network and the speed at which FB will act.
 

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Looks now like it is also developing a side line for people to pass on used daysaver tickets by saying where they have left them. That definitely sounds like promoting illegal activity, presuming tickets are non-transferable.
 

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How can you argue for a better service by defrauding the company? I'd say these people have the brains of an amoeba, but I suspect an amoeba would probably understand that basic concept.
 

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What's this, Anonymous - RailUK wing? :lol:

I have edited the Metro Wikipedia page to remove their blatant plug.

How can you argue for a better service by defrauding the company? I'd say these people have the brains of an amoeba, but I suspect an amoeba would probably understand that basic concept.

Well, they say you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but I'm inclined to agree.
 

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Well, they say you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but I'm inclined to agree.

Mark Harrison, defending both men, said his clients had acted without thinking and said they were both extremely sorry for their actions.

Is that a defence? Is there any proof that they are capable of thinking?! Isn't this also the sort of thing that leads to people getting killed, or even killing themselves?
 

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Is that a defence? Is there any proof that they are capable of thinking?! Isn't this also the sort of thing that leads to people getting killed, or even killing themselves?

It sounds like they'd actually done quite a lot of thinking (though not a particularly pleasant sort of thinking) to come up with some quite unpleasant proposed actions.
 

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I'm just trying to imagine someone doing this with Carlisle Security on Metrolink.

"I've been at Victoria four times today, and there weren't any Inspectors on the platform or the tram! Go do it for free!"

...four seconds later, Carlisle turn up. Whoops.

How can anyone justify a site like this? If you are going to promote a pressure group, then fine, but not in a manner that advocates illegal activity...
 

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Funny how FB's report function makes no provision in its "reasons" list for pages like this one which attempt to encourage illegal activities.
I know Sky have picked up on the site, but I wonder if any journos would be interested in having a go at Facebook for not making it easy for members to report this kind of activity?

Contacts anyone?
 

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i lived in sunderland and would gladly go back to paying my £60 a month travel pass for the whole system. where as i currently pay £60 a week just to work and back on the underground.
 

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You'll probably find that the majority of people who use that particular site and the Facebook group are the type(s) of people who would not actually buy a ticket in the first place. I see it as a flash in the pan, and no doubt it will become old news very soon. It also doesn't help that their argument about the ticket prices is a weak one; for £4.20 (off peak) you can travel in all the Metro zones, on the Shields Ferry and the Sunderland - Newcastle line all day, which is fantastic value compared to other operators.

I've noticed an increase in the amount of tickets left at ticket machines in the past few weeks, but these have been quietly ripped up and put in the nearest bin. It is quite clear that the site is promoting illegal activity, and anyone who is stupid enough to try and get away with not buying a ticket will no doubt be looking at the £20 fine very quickly - in fact I wouldn't be surprised if the number of fines has actually risen recently, so revenue will not be affected.
 

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I know Sky have picked up on the site, but I wonder if any journos would be interested in having a go at Facebook for not making it easy for members to report this kind of activity?

Contacts anyone?

It was Sky Tyne and Wear, which is focussed on local news (fairly similar formula to STV local - hence why CheckyWatch is relevant to them. A fight against Facebook is not a local issue, and would not really involve the reader as much as some campaigns - this would be better suited to a national, likely a tabloid.
 

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You'll probably find that the majority of people who use that particular site and the Facebook group are the type(s) of people who would not actually buy a ticket in the first place. I see it as a flash in the pan, and no doubt it will become old news very soon. It also doesn't help that their argument about the ticket prices is a weak one; for £4.20 (off peak) you can travel in all the Metro zones, on the Shields Ferry and the Sunderland - Newcastle line all day, which is fantastic value compared to other operators.

I've noticed an increase in the amount of tickets left at ticket machines in the past few weeks, but these have been quietly ripped up and put in the nearest bin. It is quite clear that the site is promoting illegal activity, and anyone who is stupid enough to try and get away with not buying a ticket will no doubt be looking at the £20 fine very quickly - in fact I wouldn't be surprised if the number of fines has actually risen recently, so revenue will not be affected.

Seemingly so. Just noticed this post too which surely shows that the site is quite clearly promoting illegal activity. Nice one, try that on SWT and the RPIs will be on you!

live in london so i can explain how the barriers work, if 2 people try to go through 1 the alarm will sound so you need to HIT-THE-DECK, plus the wide gate for prams etc can squeeze 5 through in 1 go if your quick enough as they are delayed from closing and most of the time after 7pm the gate is left open so you can just roll through, plus you can crawl underneath the gates too quite easily. any more questions give is a inbox
 

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Well Sky have already reported on it.

I see that in this report, the 21-year old Ben Potts Heywood is reported to have used the phrase "coz there rediculous" in reference to ticket prices.

Three words..none of them meeting the correct grammatical nuances of the English Language. I am sure that there are those under the age of 11 who could have been able to express themselves better than this 21-year old person.
 

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I see that in this report, the 21-year old Ben Potts Heywood is reported to have used the phrase "coz there rediculous" in reference to ticket prices.

Three words..none of them meeting the correct grammatical nuances of the English Language. I am sure that there are those under the age of 11 who could have been able to express themselves better than this 21-year old person.

I don't generally like to judge people based on their use of the English language, I know a few people who come across as very unintelligent online, but are actually intelligent and lovely people.

In this case however, I expect this lad is someone to avoid! :lol:
 

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Three words..none of them meeting the correct grammatical nuances of the English Language. I am sure that there are those under the age of 11 who could have been able to express themselves better than this 21-year old person.

We find ourselves in a sad state of affairs when the most powerful means of fighting back against (nonexistant) oppression is to use slang to the extreme coupled with appalling grammar...

...sorry, wrong thread! :lol:

At the very least it should have been "'Cause they're ridiculous!", but then that wouldn't appeal to the lazy 15-year-olds of today.
 

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Seemingly so. Just noticed this post too which surely shows that the site is quite clearly promoting illegal activity. Nice one, try that on SWT and the RPIs will be on you!
And I'm sure no one will ever be monitoring the CCTV. :roll:

You may get in the system but to get away with it you have to succeed twice by trying the same stunt at the exit point. I don't think I could ever be that desperate just to save a few quid.
 

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And I'm sure no one will ever be monitoring the CCTV. :roll:

You may get in the system but to get away with it you have to succeed twice by trying the same stunt at the exit point. I don't think I could ever be that desperate just to save a few quid.

Tell that to these pepole!

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or this person:

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Sky News - Nov 7, 2012
Sharon Kelly, Director of Customer Services at DB Regio Tyne and Wear, which operates the Metro on behalf of Nexus, said: “This page promotes criminal activity and as a result we expect Facebook to shut it down as they have before with similar pages...........
Northumbria Police say they are aware of the Facebook page and are working with Nexus to see what action can be taken.
Oh, this fast paced world we live in ! 3 months later and the facebook page is still there. Maybe the police were busy, catching criminals or something.

We asked Jeremy Clarkson from BBC’s Top Gear, what he thought about it.

By high profile campaigns such as writing to their local ombudsman, spraying a derelict bus shelter in Yorkshire and holding a barn dance, these issues reach a wider audience.
 

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Its pathetic and childish page to be honest, what are they going to gain by protesting? The fares are quite cheap compared to the likes of the London underground. In addition Newcastle is a fairly compact city and there is many other method's of transport aswell. The tyne and wear metro is expensive and the sometimes medicore service they provide on their ageing system. I wish these people would grow up!
 

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Remember, these are the same level of people who took part in the London riots and said that they were just stealing to get back their taxes... :roll:
 
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