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Hello, A last minute trip from Cambridge to Rochford has arisen and I will be travelling it tomorrow (28th July). I was planning on varying the route and fancied trying to cover both the Liverpool Street and Fenchurch Street lines by going from Liverpool Street to Rochford, then on the return carrying on to Southend Victoria, walking to Southend Central and then going home from there. Does anyone know if this would be valid on a standard Cambridge/Rochford return ticket?
I apprecite its last minute but I would be grateful for any help, or indeed a website that can help me out.
Cheers.
 
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Hello, A last minute trip from Cambridge to Rochford has arisen and I will be travelling it tomorrow (28th July). I was planning on varying the route and fancied trying to cover both the Liverpool Street and Fenchurch Street lines by going from Liverpool Street to Rochford, then on the return carrying on to Southend Victoria, walking to Southend Central and then going home from there. Does anyone know if this would be valid on a standard Cambridge/Rochford return ticket?
I apprecite its last minute but I would be grateful for any help, or indeed a website that can help me out.
Cheers.

sorry i get you know rochford, essex. will have a look now.what time are you leaving as well please?
 

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errrrm roughly about ten o'clock, end of the rush hour.
 

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Anytime Day Return £42/Off Peak Day Return £35

Cambridge to Rochford via London Liverpool Street then Direct to Rochford
Rochford to Southend Victoria
Southend Central to London Fenchurch Street
London Fenchurch Street to Cambridge

All seems to be a valid route!
 
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Right thats brilliant, so I can do that all one return. Many thanks, looking forward to a good day out :)
 

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Does anyone know if this would be valid on a standard Cambridge/Rochford return ticket?
Yes, it is. But I would choose to buy a Cambridge - Southend Stations ticket which is the same price as Cambridge - Rochford for all ticket types. They all allow break of journey at Rochford. Railcard fares are in brackets.
SDR Anytime Day Return £42 (£27.70) Valid one day. Out: any train. Return: any train.
SVR Off-Peak Return £41 (£27.05) Valid: Out: one day, M-F from 0854. Return: one month, M-F from 0930.
CDR Off-Peak Day Return £35 (£23.10) Valid one day. Out: M-F from 0854. Return: any train.
 

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Right thats brilliant, so I can do that all one return. Many thanks, looking forward to a good day out :)

no doubt other forum memebers will advance on this, as for some strange reason i cannot open the routeing guide.!
 

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Thank you John again that has been most helpful. If I buy a off peak day return to Southend stations, it will then let me off nd back on at Rochford?
 

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Thank you John again that has been most helpful. If I buy a off peak day return to Southend stations, it will then let me off nd back on at Rochford?

yes. i think it will. i didnt actually know it was the same price.John @ home is very helpful. helped me with the routeing guide.
 

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Ok, thank you very much. Out of interest, do you know of anything good to look out for, like depots/junctions etc to look out for on either line?
 

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Ok, thank you very much. Out of interest, do you know of anything good to look out for, like depots/junctions etc to look out for on either line?

well you will go past nxea ilford depot on the way from liverpool street to rochford,and on your way back down the LTS Line, through upminster, i believe c2c have a depot at east ham, that's all i can think of.
 

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There's no ticket barriers at Rochford in any case.

NXEA have plenty of sidings (usually filled with class 321s) between Prittlewell and Southend Vic, but really not that interesting. You will get to see the new. not yet open, Southend Airport station, too - and you really are next to the airport at that point

If you're really looking for railway-related stuff on the c2c, the depots are between Thorpe Bay and Shoeburyness (so not covered by your ticket - but 357s only there, generally, although some 378s have been there recently), at at East Ham (i.e between Barking and West Ham - almost entirely 357s too, but sometimes some old coaching stock or Overground/Silverlink 150s too). Though you might find it more interesting, instead of taking the "main" (Basildon) line to go round the loop thru Tilbury, and then change at Grays for the train to Fenchurch St via Rainham and Dagenham Dock. Some freight round that way + the Eurostar runs parallel + all the decaying infrastructure around Dagenham Dock/Ripple Lane. Bit annoying that there are so few through trains from Southend that go that way now, and pretty much none outside the peaks!
 

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Ok, thank you very much. Out of interest, do you know of anything good to look out for, like depots/junctions etc to look out for on either line?
The c2c route goes alongside HS1 at one point. Also you have a choice of 2 main routes between Pitsea and Barking with a further additional route via Chavford Hundred(s of them ;)). Be careful though, these lines are in Essex.
 

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You mean the depot back home sometimes has 378s?! I am so going there when I return to Southend next week! :lol:

Pretty much everything of note has been listed by W-on-Sea. The Airport station is supposedly due to open September 6th (the day I come back to Bath :lol:), and is a seemingly glass structure. You will know you are near (when approaching from the south) because you pass under a bridge and then are quite literally immediately east of the airport itself.

If you want to go to Shoeburyness "depot" for some photting or similar, there is a spot from which you can view the whole area really well, which proves useful for the annual November fireworks! You will see a road next to Platform 1, which does not connect with the High Street (the road the line ends on). This is Terminal Close, home to many warehouses. If you walk down there, you will reach Wallace Street; you should see a large black bridge which you will have passed under just before entering the station. Depending on where on the bridge you stand, and assuming it hasn't changed recently (don't know when I last crossed it :lol:), you can get some great shots of the sidings from the buffer end. When done, keep going the same way, and eventually after a footpath you will reach the Health Centre car park. Turn right onto Ness Road (a large vacant building reminiscent of, and formerly (!), a cinema is on the right), until you reach a five-way roundabout (at this point you're five minutes from my home :lol:). Go right onto Elm Road, and you will see a bridge - the most easterly road bridge on the LTS line. From up there, you can get some great shots of both the sidings and the washing facility. Just note that the paths are quite narrow...

If you don't understand this, or if it is out-of-date, I apologise... :?

Yorkie: Trust me; Basildon is worse. Both it, and the area of Pitsea known as Chalvedon, have a nickname akin to that you have used above :lol:
 

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Thanks this has all been of a great help :).
I doubt I'll manage to get to Shoeburyness, but the Ilford works and the c2c depot will both be good to look out for. I have never travelled on either the 321 or the 357 so looking forward to that.
 

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You mean the depot back home sometimes has 378s?! I am so going there when I return to Southend next week! :lol:

I'm not sure if you'll see any there now - last winter, maybe : before the first batch entered service for London Overground they were being tested overnight (ie 1am-4am) between Shoebury and Leigh. I don't know if that is continuing now.

I have to agree wholeheartedly that Pitsea is...the Pits, really.
 

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Yeah I must say that the area isn't the greatest haha, but hey its a free trip to help someone out, so I can't complain really. Going to see family in South London afterwards so really is a bargain day out on the railways for me :D
 

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Well I know of another name for Pitsea. Try changing the "P" to the two letters that imply a request for silence :lol:
 

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Going to see family in South London afterwards
You will find it cheaper with one of these combinations. For travel on NXEA to and from Liverpool Street:
ODT Off-Peak Day Travelcard Cambridge - London Zones 1-6 route NXEA Trains Only £20.30 (£13.40) Valid by any train scheduled to arrive at London Terminals at or after 1000.
CDR Off-Peak Day Return Boundary Zone 6 - Southend Stations route Any Permitted £10.10 (£6.65) Valid from 0930.
Total £30.40 (£20.05)
For flexibility to use Liverpool St (NXEA) or Kings Cross (FCC):
ODT Off-Peak Day Travelcard Cambridge - London Zones 1-6 route Any Permitted £26.50 (£17.50) Valid by any train scheduled to arrive at London Terminals at or after 1000.
CDR Off-Peak Day Return Boundary Zone 6 - Southend Stations route Any Permitted £10.10 (£6.65) Valid from 0930.
Total £35.60 (£24.15)
Once again, Railcard fares are in brackets.
 

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No, I will happily and proudly defend this bit of South Essex (well..I draw the line at Basildon, Grays or Tilbury) , and the rather characterful people who live there, having returned here after well...a good 15 years...away. And some of the scenery, melancholic though it is, is seriously beautiful, across the marshes and fens...even in Thurrock. And that bit where Hadleigh Castle (or what little remains of it) hangs to one side, while Canvey Island is down below to the other...on a misty morning it is extremely poetic...seriously some of the best landscape in the south-east of England

But Pitsea. Yes. I know that name. It's mentioned in this blog
http://overheardonc2c.blogspot.com/ which sadly barely seems to have taken off. Although (travelling frequently on that myself) the author has a point. It is place in which the wrongs of the world are frequently put to rights, rhetorically. I've commuted previously on the Thameslink and the old and unlamented Silverlink Metro, and it didn't really happen there. The Jubilee line? A little. The Northern line? Not so. Night buses on certain routes in North-West London. Depending on the route, maybe. But the c2c (especially the 23.40 departure on a Friday) is something else. So I wish the author would relate some more overheard stories..

It's true that people speak more loudly in Southend (and around) than elsewhere in England.
 

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Thanks for that John, but this is being paid for by someone else :) and infact, the lift available meant I actually went from St.Neots and it's cost me £24.80 in total. However on the train at the moment and I was held on the slow line south of knebworth, thought this was irregular as I should be sailing through on the fast by now, and sure enough an entire (barring the last power car still in midland mainline) East Midlands HST shot past, so good day already :)
 
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