Caledonian Sleeper

[D6130]

Class 92s are 140km/h max speed (~87mph), are they not?

They are indeed...or 140 km/h to be precise. Just testing your alertness!

 

[Tormod]

1M16 still at INV 2150

 

[JonathanH]

1M16 still at INV 2150

The Royal Scotsman, 1Z82 1915 Boat Of Garten Gbrf to Dundee, has not reported at Kingussie.

1T94 2022 Inverness to Glasgow Queen Street is stopped at Aviemore, and 1H27 1907 Glasgow Queen Street to Inverness is stopped at Pitlochry.

Scotrail journey check says

Dalwhinnie Signaller reports, mains power failure affecting signalling at Dalwhinnie area of control. Unable to run to or from Blair Atholl and Kingussie.

 

[norbitonflyer]

DELETED as duplicates other comments

 

[43096]

Scotrail journey check rports the dealys as casued by a failure of the electricity supply, which is odd as there is no electricity supply north of Stirling. I assume it's a signalling issue

Signalling needs electricity...

 

[JonathanH]

Scotrail journey check rports the dealys as casued by a failure of the electricity supply, which is odd as there is no electricity supply north of Stirling. I assume it's a signalling issue

Mains electricity sounds like loss of power to the signal box.

 

[gka472l]

Looks like the northbound lowlander expired somewhere between Crewe and Warrington last night.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C04573/2026-08-03/detailed#allox_id=0

It was on the down fast in Crewe station at 0530 this morning, having been there a couple of hours, did have a 66 attached to the front due to a poorly 92......

 

[dk1]

Mains electricity sounds like loss of power to the signal box.

Just what I thought.

 

[D6130]

Just passed Polmadie depot on a Glasgow-Lanark service and noticed a (demic?) class 92, in CS livery with pan down, stabled in the dead-end sidings alongside the heavy repair workshop. Unfortunately I was unable to positively ID it. Meanwhile 92 038 - also in CS livery - was stabled wth pan up alongside the cleaning and servicing shed, having presumably worked last night's Lowlander from Euston....or its ECS from Glasgow Central.

Returning past Polmadie this evening, it looked like the (presumably) demic loco was 92 018. However my eyesight isn't as good as it used to be!

 

[Bald Rick]

I priced the Sleeper for a regular trip to Aberdeen, booking 3 months out. £290 for a Club, £210 for a Classic. Or I can pay BA £80, another £80 for one of the airport hotels, save either £50 or £130 and have a decent nights sleep too. It's not a serious mode of transport for most people travelling on business.

The sleeper is not really on the business market now, except for edge cases where there is a ’no fly’ policy either from the company or the individual.

It doesn’t need to be. The sleeper sells, and sells well, in the leisure market. Especially for people travelling together, where the price is much more attractive than the alternatives.

 

[Sealink]

I'm on the northbound Highlander and received this text message. Except I am going to Inverness.

Good Morning , we are sorry to inform , we will unfortunately be terminating this service at Edinburgh.

We have arranged for your ticket to be accepted on the ScotRail service from Edinburgh to Dundee at 05:30. Simply show your Caledonian Sleeper ticket to the train crew for free travel.

Once you arrive at Dundee, we will have further onward transport arranged to take you to your final destination.

If you have been delayed by more than 30 minutes, we will arrange Delay Repay compensation for you. If you booked your ticket directly with us, you will receive an email within the next 48 hours containing a link to submit your claim.

If you booked through another provider, please send a copy of your ticket to enquiry@sleeper.scot and we will process this for you.

We are very sorry for the disruption to your journey and for the inconvenience this has caused. Thank you for your patience and understanding while we work to complete your journey as smoothly as possible.

If you have any questions, please speak to your onboard team or contact us via Live Chat at www.sleeper.scot.

 

[JModulo]

Returning past Polmadie this evening, it looked like the (presumably) demic loco was 92 018. However my eyesight isn't as good as it used to be!

The 92 that failed yesterday was 18. The one that you "spotted" the other day was 6, which is at Polmadie for ongoing testing with coaches.

 

[DelW]

I'm on the northbound Highlander and received this text message. Except I am going to Inverness.
....

We have now arranged ticket acceptance with ScotRail from Edinburgh. Your onward journey will be:

Edinburgh to Aberdeen - 05:30, arriving Aberdeen 08:12
Aberdeen to Inverness - 08:23, arriving Inverness 10:25

It looks like the mains power failure mentioned above is still affecting the Highland main line.

 

[Durradan]

The Aberdeen portion looks to have arrived early but with 66762 coupled up in front of 73971. I've seen two 73s in tandem on occasion but I think that's first time I've seen it arriving with a class 66 up front.

 

[JonathanH]

The Aberdeen portion looks to have arrived early but with 66762 coupled up in front of 73971. I've seen two 73s in tandem on occasion but I think that's first time I've seen it arriving with a class 66 up front.

While it is unusual for the Aberdeen portion to be 66+73 it isn't unknown. It only happens at times of low class 73 availability though, as a single 73 is very capable of working the short Aberdeen portion.

66762 worked north from Doncaster yesterday, so was presumably expected to go to Inverness this morning but for the power issue. 66738 could then have gone on the Fort William portion, being a Radio Electronic Token Block (RETB) fitted 66, but 66762 can't go to Fort William (without portable RETB equipment being available). Fort William today is a single class 73, as 73970 took the Inverness portion empty to Polmadie depot.

It could be inferred that 66762 is insurance against an issue with 73971 this morning.

 

[InvHst]

The inverness portion from last night is still in platform 2 hasn't moved all night so there will definitely be some coach balancing needing done

 

[JonathanH]

The inverness portion from last night is still in platform 2 hasn't moved all night so there will definitely be some coach balancing needing done

Yes, the northbound Inverness portion went to Polmadie this morning from Edinburgh, but there doesn't seem to be a path to get it down to London for the northbound lowland sleeper today.

The portion stuck in Inverness last night should just stay there for tonight's working.

 

[Tetragon213]

Out of interest, do they ever send you long haul? Because in many cases an alternative technically exists (or did before the Russians decided that civilised society wasn't for them), but will often take at least a week.

Southampton to New York on the QM2 (albiet more polluting than the flight). Europe to Beijing could be done by train in the past, it won't be so easy to get a Russian visa now. From China there are ferries on towards South Korea and Japan.

They currently do not. I suspect that they'll probably update policy to allow flights long haul, either when we start going long distance, or when some Smart Alec inevitably uses the policy to try and get a trip on the QM2...

 

[JonathanH]

London to Edinburgh confirmed to be cancelled tonight because of the problems on the Highland Line last night.

Service Update: London Euston to Edinburgh – Wednesday 5 August​

Due to a line closure in Scotland last night, our train was unable to travel south and is therefore unavailable to operate tonight's London Euston to Edinburgh service.

As a result, tonight's service has been cancelled.

We sincerely apologise for the inconvenience this will cause.

Refunds​

If you booked directly with Caledonian Sleeper, a full refund will be processed automatically to your original payment card.

If you purchased your ticket through a third-party retailer, please contact them directly to arrange your refund.

Alternative Travel​

To help you continue your journey, your Caledonian Sleeper ticket will be accepted on LNER services from London King's Cross to Edinburgh on any service departing between 14:00 on Wednesday 5 August and 10:00 on Thursday 6 August.

If you would like to reserve a seat, please visit the LNER seat reservation page and enter Calsleeper when prompted for your ticket number.

If you are away from home and this cancellation has left you without accommodation, or if you require further assistance, please contact us via Live Chat and a member of our team will be happy to help.

We are very sorry for the disruption to your journey and thank you for your patience and understanding.

 

[Sealink]

So all a bit inconvenient but I clocked that there was a 5am Ember service to Inverness for £14.25 so left Waverley and did that. Arrived Inverness in plenty of time for my northbound Ember. Incidentally, Citylink were charging £27.50 single, although they claim to honour the £2 fare cap from the border of the regions with the fare cap. As Ember do.

Later I received my automatic Delay Repay confirmation email from CS.

 

[Bill57p9]

London to Edinburgh confirmed to be cancelled tonight because of the problems on the Highland Line last night.

I am slightly surprised that the Edinburgh rather than Glasgow portion is the one cancelled, especially during Fringe season though I appreciate that the single accessible (i.e. Edinburgh) portion is the one missing and therefore some changes would have been required had the 2 accessible portion been reallocated to Edinburgh.
Maybe both portions were fully booked tonight, rooms at least.

 

[Western Gaffer]

I am slightly surprised that the Edinburgh rather than Glasgow portion is the one cancelled, especially during Fringe season...

The Fringe doesn't actually start until Friday, although that just nudges the city from rammed to gridlocked!

 

[JonathanH]

More misfortune this morning with the Highland sleeper picking up delay at Oxenholme, then the portions cancelled at Edinburgh. Fort William appears to be just the two day coaches. Sleeper coaches shown as going to Polmadie.

Reported as problem with the brakes.

 

[JasmineDM]

This is all very concerning. Is it looking likely that the Highlander back to London will be cancelled this evening? I'm meant to be travelling from Aberdeen tonight to get a Eurostar from London in the afternoon tomorrow. No communication from them yet.

 

[JonathanH]

This is all very concerning. Is it looking likely that the Highlander back to London will be cancelled this evening? I'm meant to be travelling from Aberdeen tonight to get a Eurostar from London in the afternoon tomorrow. No communication from them yet.

I assume it will start from Edinburgh, with connections advised from the north. The stock has gone to Polmadie depot, presumably after acting as a static hotel at Edinburgh. There are no paths to get stock north from there.

 

[JamieL]

This is all very concerning. Is it looking likely that the Highlander back to London will be cancelled this evening? I'm meant to be travelling from Aberdeen tonight to get a Eurostar from London in the afternoon tomorrow. No communication from them yet.

CS website says updates at 2pm

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[Bill57p9]

A 5M16 plan has appeared to run Polmadie to Edinburgh this evening, arriving 2356 therefore I suspect @JonathanH is right in that Inverness and Aberdeen portion passengers guests will be given the opportunity to travel to Edinburgh with ScotRail
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:01991/2026-08-06/detailed

Slightly surprised that the Fort William day coaches ran this morning: presumably berth passengers guests from that portion were/will be in the lounge from/to Edinburgh.

 

[VT 390]

Slightly surprised that the Fort William day coaches ran this morning: presumably berth passengers guests from that portion were/will be in the lounge from/to Edinburgh.

If this was the case, even if every room in the 4 sleeper carriages was only single occupied (unlikely) that would be at least 36 people in the club car with only around 30 seats so would not be a pleasant journey for around a 5 hour journey.
If every room was double occupied there could be up to 72 passengers to accommodate so may not even all fit in the club car.

 

[JasmineDM]

A 5M16 plan has appeared to run Polmadie to Edinburgh this evening, arriving 2356 therefore I suspect @JonathanH is right in that Inverness and Aberdeen portion passengers guests will be given the opportunity to travel to Edinburgh with ScotRail
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:01991/2026-08-06/detailed

Slightly surprised that the Fort William day coaches ran this morning: presumably berth passengers guests from that portion were/will be in the lounge from/to Edinburgh.

That's good to know, thankyou. I assume that they'll recommend the Scotrail HST that leaves Aberdeen half an hour before, or at least allow that to be used. No email update from them yet though.

 

[Bletchleyite]

If this was the case, even if every room in the 4 sleeper carriages was only single occupied (unlikely) that would be at least 36 people in the club car with only around 30 seats so would not be a pleasant journey for around a 5 hour journey.
If every room was double occupied there could be up to 72 passengers to accommodate so may not even all fit in the club car.

The seated coach will generally not be full, because the seats from London are shared between that and the Aberdeen, and not that many people will want to rock up at Edinburgh at 4am for a "day" train to FW.