Scotrail84
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Think their passenger bookings staff are also based there so that will be safe from closure if they were to close any.
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PaxVobiscum
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Thanks. I’m aware of the restrictions to Double/Club pax only but the issue of interest to me was that the Avanti staff seemed to be saying that they weren’t going to be letting ANY Sleeper pax in.Guest Lounges
Guest Lounges | Caledonian Sleeper. View information and opening hours for our Guest Lounges in London Euston, Inverness, Perth, Dundee, Leuchars and Fort Williamwww.sleeper.scot
They might have failed to update, but that makes clear it's on departure only, not arrival, and is only for Double and Club customers, not Seated. This ticket limitation seems to be true of most lounges.
Bletchleyite
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At that time of day that was correct. The shared lounge is not, as clearly shown on the page I linked to, available to Sleeper passengers on arrival. Access is evening only.
There are (if that's what you're after) showers in the toilets at Glasgow Central, though, I think it costs £5.
IIRC at one point CS offered shower tokens for (club & double?) passengers arriving at Glasgow and possibly Edinburgh. I may have misremembered though.
It does strike me as slightly odd that to have lounge arrangements in various places but neither Edinburgh nor Glasgow. That said, ScotRail only offers First Class passengers one lounge and that is in Aberdeen.
It does strike me as slightly odd that to have lounge arrangements in various places but neither Edinburgh nor Glasgow. That said, ScotRail only offers First Class passengers one lounge and that is in Aberdeen.
ruaival
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Back in First Scotrail days the plush GNER first class lounge upstairs with view East over the tracks to London, was always closed in the hour or so before the Sleeper and the "sleeper lounge" was a glorified waiting room near then Platform 14 of Glasgow Queen St shuttle fame. The "Hebrides" bar adjacent to the station worked fine instead.
On the occasion I needed a shower arriving in either Scottish capital** or London, I headed for a local gym and negotiated a reasonable small fee. Euston showers were closed for security reasons if I recall correctly.
** contentious I know, but grandfather was Station Master at St Enoch.
Bletchleyite
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Not having a lounge offering in the morning is just pragmatism - most people are going to London in the morning so this is when the TOC's use of the lounge will be highest. After the last train has departed (Glasgow) or when there are few left (Edinburgh), there's no such issue.
tumbledown
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Are you sure? That would imply electropneumatic braking. Nothing in the Edinburgh overrun report that I have read so far, including the diagram on p16, implies that.
Steve Harris
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I don't think Scotrail 84 was referring to the Edinburgh incident, didn't the brakes slam on when a CS service was flying up/down the WCML and the whole rake got wheel flats ? ( I don't think the Mk 5's had been in service long when it happened.) I think that is the incident he may well be alludeding to.
tumbledown
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Neither did I, but the Edinburgh report has the best technical description of the brakes I have been able to find. It mentions the Passenger Alarm, which is electrical and has a ten second delay before applying the brakes (so the driver can override it), but why loss of power to the Passenger Alarm would automatically apply the brakes, if that is the case, is puzzling.
As its been mentioned a few posts ago, but just to clear a few things up. Polmadie does have a shore supply of which the sets are powered from during the day. Locos are still attached to the sets, but powered down/stabled.
Wembley also carry out basic running repairs and have a few CAF staff based there.
Wembley also carry out basic running repairs and have a few CAF staff based there.
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I thought it was a door slightl
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Yes, I thought a door slightly open that put on the emergency brakes. Didn't someone fly out of bed.
Scotrail84
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The report says exactly what I said, a brake cock was in the wrong position after coupling the loco on.
Could have done - I’ve been on it when it’s done an emergency stop and I nearly flew across the berth!
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Glad you were okay. You have to feel for the catering side who could have been carrying hot drinks.
Myself, my son would have loved it if I flew out the berth.
Shame those days are over now as he's 19 and driving a bus and then hopefully apply for a train driver when old enough to.
It’s just one of those things, could have been worse than it was obviously!
My grandson is 21 and he’d still p himself laughing if it happened now
But, as you say, the catering staff would have been knocked off their feet and scalding food could have hurt someone.
My grandson is 21 and he’d still p himself laughing if it happened now
But, as you say, the catering staff would have been knocked off their feet and scalding food could have hurt someone.
Think about what would happen if the opposite were true (emergency brake needs power to apply) the risk of it not working when required becomes a lot higher.
Discuss223
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Does the Caledonian Sleeper have "bunk" style beds, that go on top of beds underneath? I wouldn't have liked to have been on the "top bunk" when the emergency brake was applied.
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Does anyone know if 1S25 was routed via Stockport/Piccadilly last night (31st Jan) and for what reason? It stopped half way down Platform 6, (meaning some of the train would not be on the platform?) then left Crewe 35 late routed DF/DMA, which I think could be Down Manchhester. RTT shows no report between Crewe North Jct & Golborne Jct, by which time it was 68 late.
Class15
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There was a power failure near Hartford last night. I suspect that is why.
Peter Mugridge
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From memory, there is a safety strap on the top bunk isn't there?
Yes, Stockport / Piccadilly / Eccles.
[Image from TrackIT! link above shows timings of 1S25 via Stockport, Manchester Piccadilly and Eccles]
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No strap anymore. Just some flimsy plastic things that sit hooked under the mattress and form a small flap that prevents you from rolling out of bed.
PG
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If there was one I didn't notice it a couple of years ago but fortunately we didn't experience emergency braking.
tumbledown
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Yes, signal failure at Weaver Junction. There were seven trains already stacked there awaiting authority to proceed when the sleeper reached Crewe.
Scotrail84
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I cant work out how last nights 1M16 arrived in Edinburgh in plenty time to do the one shunt but left Edinburgh 7 late and ended up being 45 late into Euston. I thought it was maybe a BESR as it got progressively later the further south it got but none of the other services ended up late so that rules out a BSER. Could have been an issue with the loco restricting the speed right enough. Anyone know?
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Railcam is showing that 92033 was Dead in Tow behind 92020, suggesting a restricted speed if 033 was faulty.
Scotrail84
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Hmm, unless it had its brakes isolated would there be a need to restrict the speed?
Dfatcontroller
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The magic box reports loss of time in running due to two locos on the train.
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I'm guessing if a 92 was shutdown DIT then the train must be restricted to 75mph then?