The train reverses there.
The top-and-tail working always used to be the case, but with the northbound departure times now being closer together the workings have changed. 1S25 works as a single loco to Wembley and runs round there. The loco left at Euston then works 1S26, which runs into Euston earlier (and hence the ECS cannot be worked by the loco off 1S25).
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Not according to RTT, as it went iver the King Edward Bridge. Nor did it use the Sub in Edinburgh.Stupid question time.....
I was on the Glasgow sleeper on Friday night (09/01/26). The Glasgow portion was at the front of the train departing Euston. We reversed at Wembley which put the Glasgow portion at the rear of the train. How did we get past the the Edinburgh portion at Waverley? Did we reverse again at Newcastle?
Realtime Trains | 1S26 2133 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 09/01/2026
Real-time train running information for 1S26 2133 departure from London Euston to Glasgow Central on 09/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
Realtimetrains has 92014 operating the train to Edinburgh and then 92018 to Glasgow Central which would agree with this.
Funnily enough I was also on board this service...Stupid question time.....
I was on the Glasgow sleeper on Friday night (09/01/26). The Glasgow portion was at the front of the train departing Euston. We reversed at Wembley which put the Glasgow portion at the rear of the train. How did we get past the the Edinburgh portion at Waverley? Did we reverse again at Newcastle?
Realtime Trains | 1S26 2133 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 09/01/2026
Real-time train running information for 1S26 2133 departure from London Euston to Glasgow Central on 09/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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I understand it's correct and the loco (92014) failed and thus the service was terminated at Peterborough.Unless I'm misreading it, RTT shows the up Highlander stuck in Peterborough
Realtime Trains | 1M16 2045 Inverness and Aberdeen to London Euston | 12/01/2026
Real-time train running information for 1M16 2045 departure from Inverness and Aberdeen to London Euston on 12/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
I assume that's a data error? If so, does anyone know what time it actually arrived at Euston?
I wonder what CS would do if they found there were lots of people wanting to book from places like Dumbarton or Falkirk to Birmingham (indicating demand for trips between Edinburgh/Glasgow and Birmingham).
1S25 was definitely departed top and tailed last Monday. 92038 from Euston to Wembley, then 92018 from Wembley to Edinburgh.
Exactly this. Having worked 1S25 into Edinburgh, 92018 then worked 1S26 from Edinburgh to Glasgow. Whatever hauled 1S26 from Wembley must have drawn the front portion forward slightly with 92018 dropping on to the rear. During the east coast diversions, the southbound Glasgow portion gets three different 92s for haulage.
This is an unfortunate downside of sleeper services everywhere when you alight somewhere that isn't the end destination. I don't know if allowing more time (depending on the time) would affect pathing or the advantage of people needing to arrive early in London?
or, unsurprisingly, depending on your point of view
that's not the only market though - I recently had to go from the Central Belt to near Plymouth. Timings-wise, the most feasible (and cost effective) way was: Highland Sleeper -> Crewe (getting kicked off the train at 05:15! seat only - too late in booking a room and didn't see the point in getting a room for a 5 hr journey anyway); Crewe -> Birmingham; Birmingham -> CrossCountry to destination (admittedly I did have 1st class on this leg which helped the comfort somewhat). And then try and look awake for a day of meetings
If I'd made this journey next month, I could have had least stayed on till Birmingham International and had an hour's extra sleep (well, broken sleep!) and still got the same XC train I got from New Street
There is also Preston, Crewe and Birmingham being devoid of service when it goes this way. It's not ideal for people anywhere other than London, but it does keep the service moving for what I assume is the majority of journeys.
I suspect there would be pathing issues caused by blocking a platform at Birmingham International. Detaching isn't really an option, either. A shuttle from Queen Street to Crianlarich departing at about 8pm would at least allow passengers to connect on to the sleeper and squeeze in an extra hour and a half of sleep. I was tempted to go all the way to Bridge of Orchy, but the earlier departure required from Glasgow defeats the purpose of using the sleeper in the first place.
Thanks! Here's to hoping it at least lives up to what I enjoyed on the Riviera...
As previously noted, the Highland sleeper has a special path in the timetable to get to Euston before the prime long distance trains ramp up in frequency, so there isn't any leeway for a later arrival.
Thanks for mentioning, I thought that was the case. Nor would I necessarily want a later arrival either because it is sometimes essential for onward connections.
Eastern Rail Services in Great Yarmouth have a number of MK2/3 former CS coaches. They're always up for leasing out their stock.
You will likely be diverted via the East Coast Mainline which explains the earlier departure time. You wouldnt have a booking to Edinburgh on the Highlander. It is not an advertised stop apart from the Edinburgh to Fort William seats.
You are travelling on the Lowlander to Edinburgh. Your coaches will sit in a platform at Edinburgh until 08:00. It's quite possible that this will be retimed to go via the West Coast (and leave later / arrive at a more normal time)
