D6130
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Ah yes.....sorry about that. It's getting late in the day for an old gimmer like me. (Yorkshire expression - as used by my wife!)
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Bletchleyite
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It will, for the time being at least, take over Network Rail's role for Scotland and Wales, but not the TOC.
I actually thought "Rail England" sounded good, though not quite as flag waving!
Still no trains North of Dundee today.
The only sleeper to run last night were the Lowland to and from Edinburgh only. With an ECS to Fort William this morning from Edinburgh.
LNW-GW Joint
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It will, because the whole Railways Act will be rewritten (or most of it), to create GBR.
Extra powers may or may not go to Edinburgh/Cardiff.
There was also an ECS move from Polmadie to Wembley last night as 5M16, presumably to allow both northbound Highlander and Lowlander to run tonight.
Also 5D25 Edinburgh to Polmadie @0406 ? What was going back to Polmadie ??
Strictly speaking we are talking sleepers. The line has been opened to Arbroath for Scot-Rail stopping trains. However needs to make Aberdeen for Inverness for the sleeper. There is a sleeper set at Aberdeen if it opens up. Assuming of course there are crews for it. The Fort William set went up empty this morning too. Believe the plan is to start the Inverness portion at Perth later tonight for road connections from North.
However the hangover from the storm is still complex.
Yes the inverness sleeper to start from Perth at 2220 bus connection from Inverness, dunno whats happening to the Aberdeen portion mind
thaitransit
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Do the signals and point motors not have back up power supply normally in the form or a solar/battery set up or auto start diesel genset in a small shed near the track? That way trains can keep operating as soon as the track inspection car has given it the all clear or operating trains eg freighters got through ok.
The mount Isa line in Queensland sufferes from so many weather related track problems and getting power to the lineside was very difficult to begin with. it was cheaper and easier to install "spring loaded preset direction points" that force trains in one direction to run through the loop regardless of a cross or not. Train control is run by radio and satellite phone train orders. thus no line side signals at all.
The mount Isa line in Queensland sufferes from so many weather related track problems and getting power to the lineside was very difficult to begin with. it was cheaper and easier to install "spring loaded preset direction points" that force trains in one direction to run through the loop regardless of a cross or not. Train control is run by radio and satellite phone train orders. thus no line side signals at all.
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In theory that could work, but then you have more (moving) parts to maintain.
Bletchleyite
Veteran Member
Sprung points are a thing, they are used in RETB* areas which also don't have physical signalling other than in some cases TPWS** grids.
* Radio electronic token block, a means of remote supervision of trains
** Train protection and warning system, a sort of UK version of Germany's Indusi-ish.
thaitransit
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Thats why the solar/battery back up is preferred now lower maintenance costs and instant start.
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This is fairly reliable system especially in regional areas but it requires trains slow to 25kph at every single loop and on a 1100km long line with over 60 loops it adds hours to journey times. but total outages are far less common unless track is totally washed out!
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This is fairly reliable system especially in regional areas but it requires trains slow to 25kph at every single loop and on a 1100km long line with over 60 loops it adds hours to journey times. but total outages are far less common unless track is totally washed out!
Line now open through to Aberdeen.
At one time TPWS was going to be fitted in Australia but it seems to have got lost along the way somewhere.
Used extensively in Victoria.
What should have been 5S25, 0402 Edinburgh to Inverness ECS move.
Both Inverness & Fort William portions came across from Polmadie also as 5S25. Presumably CS thought that the line via Aberdeen might reopen
Tonights plan is road. Transport to Perth and the Inverness portion starting from there.
Dren Ahmeti
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73970 had issues at Garelochhead and Dumbarton Central last night on 1B01, delaying the whole consist on 1M16 (Up Highland Sleeper).
Also delayed me on 1S25/1Y11 waiting for the crew change to occur at Haymarket, instead of Lockerbie.
Also delayed me on 1S25/1Y11 waiting for the crew change to occur at Haymarket, instead of Lockerbie.
Crew changeover just doesn't work!
If one direction is delayed, the whole operation is affected
Last Friday and Monday night's shenanigans proved that.
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John Bishop
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Apparently there’s a 73 dumped at Dumbarton sidings which presumably came off the very late southbound FW portion on Monday night which then led to the Highlander arriving almost 2 hours late into EUS on Tuesday morning?
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I can't confirm that 73970 is still in Dumbarton however it was Monday night / Tuesday morning - the Highlander was cancelled both ways on Sunday night.
To be fair to the southbound Fort William portion on Monday night, whilst it was the last to arrive in Edinburgh and drove the delay, both the southbound Inverness and Aberdeen portions were nearly and hour late into Edinburgh, so it would have been delayed anyway.
John Bishop
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Apologies, keep thinking this is Tuesday! Yes, it was Monday night not Sunday night. I will amend my post.
According to TOPS early yesterday 73970 was at Edinburgh.
There are a limited number of 73s currently available with 2 at Eastleigh. Indeed yesterday 73968 worked to Fort William alone. It was joined later by 66733 from the Blyth tanks and then went with it to Edinburgh last night. All portions this morning are running well. With the Inverness one currently 31E.
John Bishop
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Whatever 73 was in Dumbarton yard, it’s being moved this morning to Craigentinny. 0Z73 running 85L.
I have a question about splitting on the Northbound Lowlander. Does each of the 2 portions have a bike car? Can you tell from the Car Letter whether it will go to Glasgow or Edinburgh?
I have a booking next year, and have visions of my bike sailing off to Edinburgh at Carstairs whilst I am going to Glasgow!
I have a booking next year, and have visions of my bike sailing off to Edinburgh at Carstairs whilst I am going to Glasgow!
Each section has the destination displayed on screens on the outside of the carriages and on screens inside at the end of each coach so it's very easy to see which end is going where and as the bikes are kept in the seated coach, each end has its own bike storage area. So unless you pay absolutely no attention to what coach you're in, or you deliberately put your bike in the wrong seated coach, you'll be fine.