BR (LM) Loco allocations May 73

[crosscity]

From 06May73 I understand that BR shed codes were re-named from the old style alpha-numeric to the the new two-character ones. For instance Leeds (Holbeck) was 55A and became HO.
The London Midland Region was slightly different, as although there were individual shed codes to which shunters were allocated to, the bulk of the locomotive fleet was allocated to Divisions. So an 08 such as D3700 was allocated to Saltley (2E) which became SY. The main line locos in the area were allocated to D02, the Birmingham Division. There were three main depots (Saltley, Bescot and Tyseley), so how were the D02 Division locos allocated to a specific depot under the new coding system?
I'm using Birmingham as an example. The same question arises for other LM Divisions, such as D08 Liverpool and D09 Manchester.

 

[Big Jumby 74]

how were the D02 Division locos allocated to the depots under the new coding system?
I'm using Birmingham as an example. The same question arises for other LM Divisions, such as D08 Liverpool and D09 Manchester.

That is something I have mused about occasionally, having not been involved in matters LM in a professional way. I wonder if each (maintenance) location within a Division had certain applications, such as ie: wheel lathe, heavy lift facilities, etc etc, so that if any particular loco allocated to 'Division X' would be diagrammed to one of the specific locations within said Division, depending on the nature of repair or exam needed? Just a thought, and am sure many on here will have a better idea than I

 

[Magdalia]

Railway Observer July 1973 says:

The main line locomotives of the London Midland Region have been allocated to specific depots, although the change is only nominal apart from the London Division and the AC lines since the other Divisions each include only one depot that maintains main line locomotives.

 

[crosscity]

Railway Observer July 1973 says:

The main line locomotives of the London Midland Region have been allocated to specific depots, although the change is only nominal apart from the London Division and the AC lines since the other Divisions each include only one depot that maintains main line locomotives.

That's very interesting. Would anyone like to guess which ones are the main line depots?
I'll start with D16 Nottingham Division - Toton (TO).

 

[43096]

That's very interesting. Would anyone like to guess which ones are the main line depots?
I'll start with D16 Nottingham Division - Toton (TO).

D05 Stoke Division - Crewe Diesel
D09 Manchester Division - Longsight

 

[Clarence Yard]

D02 Bescot
D08 Springs Branch
D10 Kingmoor

D01 was split on the basis of the main lines it served - Willesden and Cricklewood.

 

[Falcon1200]

That is something I have mused about occasionally, having not been involved in matters LM in a professional way.

It has always interested me too, partly because, apart from D01 as @Clarence Yard says, it always seemed a rather pointless exercise; D02 just meant Bescot, D05 Crewe Diesel, and so on. When the codes changed to BS etc, all the main line locos ended up allocated to the 'main' depot and none to the subsidiaries.

 

[Taunton]

Derby and Toton, two main depots, were both in D16, were they not?

 

[crosscity]

Derby and Toton, two main depots, were both in D16, were they not?

They were, along with Burton, according to my 1973 Locoshed book.

The whole shed allocation thing was rather strange.
D16 Nottingham Division had no Nottingham shed, and nor did D10 Preston Division have a Preston shed.
After local government re-organisation in 1974 Wigan became part of Greater Manchester, so Merseyside had no main line allocations.
And in D09 Manchester Division the Class 76's were not allocated to the Division, but sensibly remained allocated to Reddish shed throughout.

I only asked the question as I've been adding the allocated shed to the captions of my scanned slides, and realised that from May73 locos were no longer allocated to the Divisions.

 

[Helvellyn]

Railway Observer July 1973 says:

The main line locomotives of the London Midland Region have been allocated to specific depots, although the change is only nominal apart from the London Division and the AC lines since the other Divisions each include only one depot that maintains main line locomotives.

The AC Lines locomotives were, I assume, split between WN (Willesden), CE (Crewe Electric) and LG (Longsight Electric).

D05 Stoke Division - Crewe Diesel
D09 Manchester Division - Longsight

In the case of D09 I assume LO for Longsight Diesel?

 

[Falcon1200]

Derby and Toton, two main depots, were both in D16, were they not?

I would say that in this case, Etches Park was responsible for, mainly, DMU maintenance, plus some loco servicing, whereas Toton was the loco heavy maintenance depot; Therefore all D16's main line locos became allocated to TO and none to DY!

 

[Keysan]

That is something I have mused about occasionally, having not been involved in matters LM in a professional way. I wonder if each (maintenance) location within a Division had certain applications, such as ie: wheel lathe, heavy lift facilities, etc etc, so that if any particular loco allocated to 'Division X' would be diagrammed to one of the specific locations within said Division, depending on the nature of repair or exam needed? Just a thought, and am sure many on here will have a better idea than I

Good point both Reddish and Allerton both had wheel lathes which would cover the Liverpool and Manchester Division. It would make sense that the hierarchy would be Regions and Divisions in the 70's?