Mintona
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No, I mean I don't want to know what happened just after the big bang. I think it is one of those things that has happened, and is best left to the imagination, rather than breaking it down to see what did happen.
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FusionRail
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Under a bus, usually.
Mintona
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We still won't know where we end. Though next Wednesday's probably as good a start as any...
P156KWJ
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FusionRail
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I am in school at 8:25
School veg! :grin:
I'm in school by 0845/0900.
Shouldnt you have finished by now?
I expect 08:30 on Wednesday will pass us by and we'll only remember this machine thing was switched on when we see this thread after work/school/college on Wednesday night. If there was a serious risk then I'm sure we'd have heard about it a lot more, and it would have been on something a little more major than BBc Radio 4.
Although if I do suddenly end up on Plant Zarg on Wednesday morning then so what? It can't have that much more rain than Earth, surely?
Although if I do suddenly end up on Plant Zarg on Wednesday morning then so what? It can't have that much more rain than Earth, surely?
GWRtom
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on wednesday they are simply running the machine, not colliding anything. plus any black holes created shoudllast miliseconds, if the theory is correct
Ascot
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Why are we all worrying about a Radio 4 experiment (key is the RADIO 4 bit). I doubt many people on here know the freq for it or listen to it regularly. As fun as it's funny to see you all flap 
, i'm sure if they make a balls up of it you can all sue them in "train/bus heaven".
Infact no, just think everyone this is your last night in your own beds, better not miss any of it so make the most, go find a girl/boy!
EDIT: Why do mods keep shifting posts around, this was general chit chat!
, i'm sure if they make a balls up of it you can all sue them in "train/bus heaven". Infact no, just think everyone this is your last night in your own beds, better not miss any of it so make the most, go find a girl/boy!
EDIT: Why do mods keep shifting posts around, this was general chit chat!
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valentaman
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i will be bashing my xct 170 to work at Leicester so hope we don't disappear! better if it was a HST but hope they get the calculations right
GWRtom
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stop worrying
The 'Black Holes' are NOT cosmological black holes. They are quantum gravitational singularities that operate completley differently then those in space. and by different, I mean, that do not attract matter into them, as they are quadrillions of times too small for even the smallest particle to interact with the point singularity.
and wednesday they are simply running a beam through
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the particle collisions that will be produced at the LHC are similar to those that occur naturally in our atmosphere anyway. Cosmic rays (mainly protons) with much higher energy than those to be used in the LHC experiment collide with protons in the atmosphere, and have done so since the beginning of our solar system. The collision energy of a single proton at the LHC is equivalent to 10^5 TeV, whereas cosmic rays have been observed with energies as high as 10^8 TeV, about 1000 times higher.
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I'll say it again. What CERN are doing is forcing what happens on a daily basis to occur in their own machine so it can be monitored. If a black hole appears GOOD, it proves other dimensions exist, they won't be big enough to support themselves. They will collapse within a billionth of a second. Have you actually done any researching? all of you who are worrying all are you just doom saying
The 'Black Holes' are NOT cosmological black holes. They are quantum gravitational singularities that operate completley differently then those in space. and by different, I mean, that do not attract matter into them, as they are quadrillions of times too small for even the smallest particle to interact with the point singularity.
and wednesday they are simply running a beam through
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the particle collisions that will be produced at the LHC are similar to those that occur naturally in our atmosphere anyway. Cosmic rays (mainly protons) with much higher energy than those to be used in the LHC experiment collide with protons in the atmosphere, and have done so since the beginning of our solar system. The collision energy of a single proton at the LHC is equivalent to 10^5 TeV, whereas cosmic rays have been observed with energies as high as 10^8 TeV, about 1000 times higher.
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I'll say it again. What CERN are doing is forcing what happens on a daily basis to occur in their own machine so it can be monitored. If a black hole appears GOOD, it proves other dimensions exist, they won't be big enough to support themselves. They will collapse within a billionth of a second. Have you actually done any researching? all of you who are worrying all are you just doom saying
Ascot
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Safe to say our Mr GWRtom is our black hole expert on this. WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! OH NO DOOM!!! :cry::cry:
P156KWJ
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I'm in school by 0845/0900.
well do you think I'm in at 0825 by choice? :roll:
but I finish at 1500...
GWRtom
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Ascot
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What about Scottish time? Have to watch it though as 60 min make over is on and that's prime time.
GWRtom
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about the same time
yes to both.
94.4MHz on FM, 198 Longwave, digital, online.
Good station to listen to IMHO, I'll be listening to "The World Tonight" at 2200
well do you think I'm in at 0825 by choice? :roll:
Our school wanted to do that (08.25 start, 15.25 end) but eventually dropped that suggestion after safety concerns for parents in the Clyde Valley. Somehow, their new suggestion involved dropping 15 minutes from the school day
hock: on the condition that parents use the additional 15 minutes for "constructive playtime"... :roll: Because of the traffic, I actually got home 45 minutes earlier 
Phoenix
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Look if your not worried then listen to the radio show and have a chance to listen to history unfolding.
If your worried put your self in the place you would want to be if it does happen.
If your worried put your self in the place you would want to be if it does happen.
GWRtom
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they are starting up in 15 minutes for a test beam but start colliding later on
and i have a live feed from the CERN control center
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start in
3 minutes
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beam now activated
FIRE in 30 seconds
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FIRE!!!!!!!!
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wait somethings happening! the beam will be released around the full circumference
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wait!!! they are all cheering in the control centre, the beam has been tested full circle!
and i have a live feed from the CERN control center
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start in
3 minutes
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beam now activated
FIRE in 30 seconds
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FIRE!!!!!!!!
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wait somethings happening! the beam will be released around the full circumference
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wait!!! they are all cheering in the control centre, the beam has been tested full circle!
FusionRail
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Well that worked!
GWRtom
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ok
i repeat THE SHOWS OVER FOLKS and were all still here
i repeat THE SHOWS OVER FOLKS and were all still here
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Ascot
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So where has all this 14pm stuff come from, everyone else is saying half 8?
GWRtom
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they may collide at 2
if all well
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live feed
Beam has completed journey around tunnel.
Hugs and kisses all round. They've done it. The beam is round three times. This really is a huge moment for people here who have spent a lifetimem. The dg says c'est la fin de la debut. This is the end of the beginning. Still no booze but some dodgy coffee
And at 9.30 it's a triumph! The beam has gone round the circuit three times. Vast applause. The director general of CERN when this was first conceived a quarter of a century ago, Sir Chris Llewelyn-Smith has embraced Lyn Evans, the Welshman in charge of the switch-on. Grizzled particle physicists of a certain age and craggy stoicism are grinning and - just possibly - a tear has been seen. After a nail-biting few hours, this seems to be working. Given that it's one of the most expensive experiments conducted by mankind, that is probably a relief.
This is much better than expected. I've just heard that the beam circulated the LHC 3 times on the first attempt at just before 10.28 CET. The senior guys here do look genuinely surprised at the performance of their 27km baby. To put it into context, I was told earlier that the last machine here, LEP, which was much simpler, took 12 hours to get to this point. LHC has delivered the goods in an hour!
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and note the MAY in what i said before
they won't today proubely i think CERN are being optimistic
they will in november sometime
D306
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