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Topical news story:

Wi-fi hack at train stations displays message about terror attacks​

The wi-fi has been hacked at 19 UK railway stations to display a message about terror attacks.
Network Rail confirmed that the wi-fi systems at stations including London Euston, Manchester Piccadilly, Liverpool Lime Street, Birmingham New Street, Edinburgh Waverley and Glasgow Central were affected.
People reported logging on to the wi-fi at the stations on Wednesday and being met with a screen about terror attacks in Europe.
A Network Rail spokesperson confirmed the wi-fi was still down and said: "We are currently dealing with a cyber security incident affecting the public wi-fi at Network Rail’s managed stations."
The affected stations include:
  • In London, London Cannon Street, London Bridge, Charing Cross, Clapham Junction, Euston, King’s Cross, Liverpool Street, Paddington, Victoria and Waterloo
  • In the South East, Reading and Guildford
  • In the North West, Manchester Piccadilly and Liverpool Lime Street
  • In the West Midlands, Birmingham New Street
  • In West Yorkshire, Leeds
  • In the West and South West, Bristol Temple Meads
  • In the South East, Reading and Guildford
  • In Scotland, Edinburgh Waverley and Glasgow Central
British Transport Police was investigating, Network Rail said.
The rail provider said it believed other organisations, not just rail stations, had also been impacted.
"This service is provided via a third party and has been suspended while an investigation is under way," the spokesperson said.
Telent, the third party which provides the wi-fi for Network Rail, confirmed it was aware of the "security incident" and was "investigating with Network Rail and other stakeholders".
A spokesperson said: "We have been informed there is an ongoing investigation by the British Transport Police into this incident, so it would not be appropriate to comment further at this stage."
I don’t know if anyone’s had an update on the sleeper service from Glasgow…
 
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I don’t know if anyone’s had an update on the sleeper service from Glasgow…
This is covered at the following thread:

 

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As this is not crucial to the plot, which station or stations were shown in the drone shot and immediately following where the train went through the station with a pantograph up and no wires. Supposedly just outside Leeds. My limited knowledge of the area says it was Leicester.
I think it's in the same episode. There's a few shots of the train passing a yard full of EMR 170s and tampers (?), which I thought looked very similar to Leicester carriage sidings at the time, so you might be right there.
Yeah, it's Leicester. The 170s will be Crosscountry units, which are serviced there overnight, rather than EMR ones (and in a second drone shot, I think had mysteriously disappeared!). I thought they were surrounded by Leicester depot's usual selection of classic traction rather than tampers, but admittedly it was a fairly brief sequence and I haven't committed it to memory particularly diligently.
 

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yes it was Leicester, standing in for Leeds,but that means its now heading north and not south to Sheffield !, oh dear.
Other shots at Leicester showed Swain St overbridge and the holding sidings.
And why hasn't anyone just pulled the connection to the wifi device attached. No signal received to the Loco, brake unit de-energized, train stops...just saying.
 

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Yeah, it's Leicester. The 170s will be Crosscountry units, which are serviced there overnight, rather than EMR ones (and in a second drone shot, I think had mysteriously disappeared!). I thought they were surrounded by Leicester depot's usual selection of classic traction rather than tampers, but admittedly it was a fairly brief sequence and I haven't committed it to memory particularly diligently.
Ah, thank you for clarifying. I don't know that part of the country particularly well - and I think you're right about it being classic diesels and not tampers.
 

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Impressed that they actually used a GatEx 387 in an exterior shot as one of the characters heads back to London from Gatwick Airport. The interior shots appear to use an unrefurbished 455 instead, but the red moquette is close enough substitute for not being able to film on a 387.

EDIT: Looks like I was wrong and it was a former GA 321.
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Why would a train stop on the end of a platform like this in the frst episode? It has already gone past the last signal and as it is a terminus station no other train could be in the platform blocking the line.
 

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Why would a train stop on the end of a platform like this in the frst episode? It has already gone past the last signal and as it is a terminus station no other train could be in the platform blocking the line.
Fairly sure all trains had been given orders to stop immediately.
 

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All the fourth episode was missing was some split-screen and a clock sound, it reminded me that much of 24.
 

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Why would a train stop on the end of a platform like this in the frst episode? It has already gone past the last signal and as it is a terminus station no other train could be in the platform blocking the line.

The BBC describe it as a "Thriller", not a fly on the wall documentary...
 

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Ah, thank you for clarifying. I don't know that part of the country particularly well - and I think you're right about it being classic diesels and not tampers.
Having checked it's definitely Leicester's usual array of classic diesels, and the XC 170s do indeed mysteriously disappear in a subsequent aerial shot!
 

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Why would a train stop on the end of a platform like this in the frst episode? It has already gone past the last signal and as it is a terminus station no other train could be in the platform blocking the line.
The train stops adjacent to the signal controlling entry to the platform, which had just reverted to red. I'm not aware that such platform end signals for arriving trains are a typical prototypical feature at termini, though could be wrong about that.
 
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My entry for how far from the buffers at the end sweepstake.

As in the film Silver Streak with Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder. It will plough straight into the Concourse. This will solve the rush to train problems at Euston.
 

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Except a real 37 was used and a real EMU was used to represent the GatEx 387...
My reply was to a poster who stated:

Next week's Radio Times has an article about the show and their usual synopsis of the first two episodes. It seems no trains were used the train sections are all studio sets and CGI, although there appear to be some scenes shot at Glasgow Central.
It does say that the sleeper train "is on course for a collision course! With a freight train! Transporting tanker! Of gas!" The exclamation marks are in the Radio Times.
 

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Well that was a preposterously silly bit of TV - however it is a bit of TV drama not a documentary. it was a fairly decent bit of (very) light entertainment for a Sunday evening.

Of course (OF COURSE) the cognoscenti here are up in arms about the accuracy of the operations or the loco types or the track speeds or the signalling but to the target audience that doesn't matter. I watched it with my partner and while it was enjoyable she did point out a few problems.

it was quite silly but not too silly as to work as a piece of TV. I realise many here wont be able to understand that and will instead focus entirely on the accuracy of the dull minutiae of railway operations but the target audience is not those that know the tractive effort of a class 66!
And why hasn't anyone just pulled the connection to the wifi device attached. No signal received to the Loco, brake unit de-energized, train stops...just saying.
IT.HAS.BEEN.HACKED!

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The BBC would like to assure viewers that no trains were harmed during the making of this programme. Any casual resemblance between characters and living persons or trains is entirely co-incidental.
 

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Radio Times has an article... the sleeper train "is on course for a collision course! With a freight train! Transporting tanker! Of gas!"
The exclamation marks are in the Radio Times.
I now have an image of a similar "sensationalist" journalism / AI script being used for station announcements too. ;)
Here's what it could've sounded like at Havant, earlier today:

"The 06:42 South Western Railway service to London Waterloo has been CANCELLED! Due to a PROBLEM! With the TRAIN!"

"The 07:10 South Western Railway service to London Waterloo has been CANCELLED! Due to ISSUE! With the TRAIN CREW!"
 

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Well, we finished watching it last night and although it was very silly in places it was still fairly enjoyable. I wasn’t too worried about the railway related plot mistakes, in fact it was better than most of these types of things in some ways. The acting was proper hammy though with lots of classic stereotypes represented one way or another.

The trouble with any kind of drama involving hacking is that there’s always a bit too much tappy tappy on keyboards and staring at screens, whereas what I’d have really liked to have seen would be Bruce Willis in a dirty vest wedged into the locomotives air filtration system shouting yippee ki-yay at an angry henchman.

Maybe they can do that with the next series though - featuring a hacked Circle Line train going round and around (and yes I do know that Bruce isn’t exactly match fit these days unfortunately).
 

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Maybe the next drama can feature hacking into TfL's Oyster core data and changing the daily fare cap to 1p....
Then cut to the image of huge crowds, as people capitalise on a cheap day out.
Then cut to a trackside group of feral oiks, stealing signalling copper wire, bringing all the routes' services to a stand - and ruining any chance of a grand day out for nowt.
 
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People have been saying that it was unrealistic, but it’s probably not the first time a train has been shot at going through Keighley.
 
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Absolutely loved the multiple references to Kings Sutton as I used to live there and commute from the station. Aynho junction did seem to have moved though - I suppose unlike the Tamworth issue, it's possible that the "driver" switched it onto the wrong track South of Banbury to bypass the blockage at Kings Sutton.
 

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One thing I couldn't work out is why they evacuated all the buildings opposite the railway station in the final episode. There was no suggestion the train was carrying explosives or anything of the sort.
 

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One thing I couldn't work out is why they evacuated all the buildings opposite the railway station in the final episode. There was no suggestion the train was carrying explosives or anything of the sort.
I expect the average non-railway person would not know that there is not really any train that could bulldoze its way across the concourse, through the buildings forming the station frontage, across the bus station, through more buildings then knock over the modern tall buildings beyond.

Normals must have a big phobia of trains by now !.
 
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