Back in the day...

[D1537]

Ah, thanks. It was a load 16 or so, so that figures. Thankfully it wasn't an ETH one that was attached that night!

According to Rail Gen 220 carried on with the 47/4 diagram, I guess it didn't matter too much in the summer as it wasn't air-cons.

 

[D1537]

Friday 25 July 1986
FoS Day 2

On arrival at Inverness, it was very cold, but no problem as Inverness had kidnapped an LMR steamer and put her to work.
Unfortunately, a working boiler would have been useful.
It did kick into some sort of life later on, just about the time that the sun made it unnecessary.

47103 1A42 Inverness-Aberdeen
47103 1H25 Aberdeen-Inverness

It turned out they'd also kidnapped a no-heat LMR 47. Which was nice.

47110 1T20 Inverness-Glasgow QS
47716 1O34 Glasgow QS-Edinburgh
47714 1O39 Edinburgh-Glasgow QS
47110 1H15 Glasgow QS-Perth

Would have headed further north with 110, but some gen had appeared which meant we needed to head for Carlisle.

47550 1T42 Perth-Glasgow QS

Well, Carlisle via Stranraer.

47543 1A05 Glasgow C-Stranraer

 

[CD]

Sunday 25th July 1982

40006 Rhyl-Chester (1J16 0910 Holyhead-Man Vic)
40170 Chester-Colwyn Bay (1D38 1155 Man Vic-Holyhead)
40157 Colwyn Bay-Chester (1J22 1420 Llandudno-Man Vic)
40006 Chester-Llandudno Jn (1D40 1426 Man Vic-Llandudno)
40170 Llandudno Jn-Chester (1J53 1630 Holyhead-Man Vic)
47440 Chester-Llandudno Jn (1D68 1840 Man Vic-Holyhead)
47513 Llandudno Jn-Rhyl (1K89 2031 Holyhead-Crewe)

Monday 25th July 1983

33006 Yeovil PM-Bristol TM (2V55 0550 Weymouth-Bristol)
45130 Bristol TM-York (1E30 0653 Plymouth-York)
45102 York-Leeds (1M26 1257 Scarborough-Bangor)
47543 Leeds-York (1E99 1115 Bangor-Scarborough)
46023 York-Malton (1E99 1115 Bangor-Scarborough)
46027 Malton-Liverpool LS (1M77 1600 Scarborough-Liverpool)
45148 Liverpool LS-York (1E89 2040 Liverpool-York)

 

[Falcon1200]

Monday 25th July 1983
47299 0958 Weymouth-Leeds (Reading-Oxford)

 

[D1511]

Monday 25th July 1983
47299 0958 Weymouth-Leeds (Reading-Oxford)

Missed you by a day!

Monday 25th July 1983

1C04 00.50 London Paddington - Milford Haven 47440 xe CD London Paddington - Cardiff C
1C04 00.50 London Paddington - Milford Haven 47542 xd IM Cardiff C - Swansea
1C04 00.50 London Paddington - Milford Haven 33029 xe EH Swansea - Haverford W
2C53 07.27 Milford Haven - Swansea 47451 xe CD Haverford W - Swansea
1O79 12.05 Cardiff C - Portsmouth H 33021 xe EH Cardiff C - Bristol TM
1O79 12.05 Cardiff C - Portsmouth H 33019 xe EH Bristol TM - Salisbury
1O14 12.20 Exeter St D - London Waterloo 50019 xe LA Salisbury - Woking
1V15 15.10 London Waterloo - Exeter St D 50008 xe LA Woking - Basingstoke
2U14 17.20 London Bridge - Uckfield 33113 xem EH London Bridge - E Croydon
1U16 17.34 London Bridge - E Grinstead 33011 xe EH E Croydon - E Grinstead
1C82 21.25 London Paddington - Fishguard H 47192 xos CD London Paddington - Llanelli

 

[NorthWestRover]

Sunday 25th July 1982

40006 Rhyl-Chester (1J16 0910 Holyhead-Man Vic)
40170 Chester-Colwyn Bay (1D38 1155 Man Vic-Holyhead)
40157 Colwyn Bay-Chester (1J22 1420 Llandudno-Man Vic)
40006 Chester-Llandudno Jn (1D40 1426 Man Vic-Llandudno)
40170 Llandudno Jn-Chester (1J53 1630 Holyhead-Man Vic)
47440 Chester-Llandudno Jn (1D68 1840 Man Vic-Holyhead)
47513 Llandudno Jn-Rhyl (1K89 2031 Holyhead-Crewe)

Another big overlap. See post #1312.

 

[CD]

Monday 26th July 1982

47513 Rhyl-Prestatyn (1K11 0815 Holyhead-Crewe)
40104 Prestatyn-Llandudno Jn (1D34 0745 Man Vic-Bangor)
47447 Llandudno Jn-Flint (1J66 0953 Bangor-Man Vic)
47429 Flint-Bangor (1D35 0945 Man Vic-Bangor)
47451 Bangor-Llandudno Jn (1K29 1207 Holyhead-Crewe)
40030 Llandudno Jn-Crewe (1A45 1259 Holyhead-Euston)
47483 Crewe-Chester (1D59 1300 Euston-Holyhead)
40104 Chester-Bangor (1D21 1545 Man Vic-Bangor)
40104 Bangor-Chester (1J31 1925 Bangor-Man Vic)
DMU Chester-Rhyl.

Tuesday 26th July 1983

47479 York-Leeds (1M53 0754 York-Liverpool)
45116 Leeds-York (1E52 0716 Man Vic-York)
45022 York-Scarborough (1E00 0705 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45022 Scarborough-Man Vic (1M63 1100 Scarborough-Bangor)
45050 Man Vic-Bolton (1S85 0717 Harwich-Glasgow)
DMU Bolton-Man Vic
46011 Man Vic-Leeds (1E74 1405 Liverpool-Newcastle)
45070 Leeds-Liverpool (1M76 1500 Scarborough-Liverpool)
46023 Liverpool-Leeds (1E59 1805 Liverpool-York)
45102 Leeds-Man Vic (1M80 1925 Scarborough-Liverpool)
DMU Man Pic-Sheffield
25288 Sheffield-St.Pancras (1M10 2359 Sheffield-St.Pancras)

 

[D1537]

Saturday 26 July 1986
47476 1M17 Stranraer-Carlisle
47016 1S90 Carlisle-Glasgow C
47705 1O12 Glasgow QS-Edinburgh
47118 2J15 Edinburgh-Dundee
47118 2J02 Dundee-Edinburgh
Held outside Waverley and missed a 47/7 to get to Glasgow but help was at hand...
37003 1S90 Edinburgh-Glasgow QS
47103 1M56 Glasgow C-Kirkconnel
47465 1S88 Kirkconnel-Glasgow C
47707 1O60 Glasgow QS-Edinburgh
47625 1E43 Edinburgh-Carlisle

 

[xotGD]

26th July 2025

I require 33102 for haulage. It works every Saturday morning. So off I went to the Churnet Valley Railway to get it in the book. My first visit to the railway.

In a blast from the past, I was bowled by a duff!



47292's first working on the railway, having arrived three years ago. On the plus side, it was looking very smart, and I needed it for haulage. I guess I'll have to go back to get the Crompton. The other 33 there, 021, didn't look like it was about to work again any time soon.

 

[CD]

Tuesday 27th July 1982

40008 Rhyl-Llandudno Jn (1D34 0745 Man Vic-Bangor)
47429 Llandudno Jn-Chester (1J66 0953 Bangor-Man Vic)
25195 Chester-Holyhead (1D29 1045 Man Vic-Holyhead)
25195 Holyhead-Rhyl (1J53 1517 Holyhead-Man Vic)
47475 Rhyl-Holyhead (1D59 1300 Euston-Holyhead)
40195 Holyhead-Chester (1A82 1805 Holyhead-Euston)
47483 Chester-Flint (1D66 1703 Euston-Holyhead)
40008 Flint-Man Vic (1J31 1925 Bangor-Man Vic)
40087 Man Vic-Rhyl (1D77 2240 Man Vic-Holyhead)

Wednesday 27th July 1983

86206 Euston-Stockport (1H04 0650 Euston-Man Pic)
DMU Stockport-Stalybridge
45102 Stalybridge-York (1E06 0905 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45127 York-Man Vic (1M63 1100 Scarborough-Bangor)
45116 Man Vic-Stalybridge (1E99 1115 Bangor-Scarborough)
47417 Stalybridge-Man Vic (1M73 1122 Newcastle-Liverpool)
46023 Man Vic-Darlington (1E74 1405 Liverpool-Newcastle)
46026 Darlington-Huddersfield (1M79 1718 Newcastle-Liverpool)
45127 Huddersfield-York (1E93 1710 Bangor-York)

Saturday 27th July 1985

45123 Bristol TM-Newquay (1V40 2130 Man Pic-Newquay)
45123 Newquay-Plymouth (1E22 1004 Newquay-Newcastle}
45115 Plymouth-Exeter (1E22)
45121 Exeter-Newton Abbot (1V73 0838 Man Pic-Newquay)
50044 Newton Abbot-Paignton (1C34 1110 Paddington-Paignton)
45144 Paignton-Bristol TM (1M28 1504 Paignton-Nottingham)
33039 Bristol TM-Salisbury (1O87 1615 Cardiff-Portsmouth Hbr)
33019 Salisbury-Yeovil Jn (1V17 1710 Waterloo-Exeter)

 

[D1511]

Wed 27th July 1983

1C04 00.50 Paddington - Milford Haven 47559 xe LA Paddington - Cardiff C
1A09 22.27 Milford Haven - Paddington 47515 xe OC Cardiff C - Reading
1A43 08.16 Reading - Paddington 47166 xbs CF Reading - Slough
1M03 Portsmouth H - Manchester 47138 xb BR Reading - Birmingham Int
1O15 09.20 Manchester P - Poole 47332 xos CD Birmingham Int - Coventry
1V52 09.40 Leeds - Plymouth 45009 xi TI Birmingham NS - Bristol TM
1M22 11.38 Plymouth - Manchester P 45135 xe TO Bristol TM - Gloucester
1M22 11.38 Plymouth - Manchester P 47481 xe CD Gloucester - Birmingham NS
1P70 14.40 Euston - Blackpool N 87032 xem WN Birmingham NS - Crewe
1S87 18.00 Birmingham NS - Glasgow C & Edinburgh 87007 xem WN Crewe - Carstairs
1G30 xx.xx Carstairs - Edinburgh (Edinburgh portion of 1S87) 47510 xe OC Carstairs - Haymarket

 

[D1511]

Friday 27th July 1984

2O08 07.40 Edinburgh - Glasgow QS 47006 xi ED Haymarket - Glasgow QS
1M47 17.20 Glasgow C - Birmingham NS 86258 xe WN Glasgow C - Carstairs
1Z84 12.05 Bristol TM - Edinburgh 20205 xos HA/20223 xos HA Carstairs - Edinburgh (although 20223 expired near MP 88 and 205 did all the work from there)

 

[D1537]

Sunday 27 July 1986
I can tell you how much there was to do in Stranraer on a Sunday afternoon in 1986. Nothing.

47569 1S70 Carlisle-Aberdeen
47437 1T78 Aberdeen-Glasgow QS
47364 1A84 Glasgow C-Stranraer
47364 1A32 Stranraer-Glasgow C
47704 1O94 Glasgow QS-Edinburgh
47454 1H01 Edinburgh-Blair Atholl

 

[D1537]

In a blast from the past, I was bowled by a duff!

Beastie. Only had 292 once, on the Yarmouth-Newcastle.

 

[D6130]

can tell you how much there was to do in Stranraer on a Sunday afternoon in 1986. Nothing.

At least the pubs were open on a Sunday by then....unlike in the 'seventies! If they were still closed in the afternoon, you could have had a drink in the bar of the North West Castle Hotel by claiming to be a resident guest....just like everyone else in town did in those days!

 

[xotGD]

Sunday 27 July 1986
I can tell you how much there was to do in Stranraer on a Sunday afternoon in 1986. Nothing.

47569 1S70 Carlisle-Aberdeen
47437 1T78 Aberdeen-Glasgow QS
47364 1A84 Glasgow C-Stranraer
47364 1A32 Stranraer-Glasgow C
47704 1O94 Glasgow QS-Edinburgh
47454 1H01 Edinburgh-Blair Atholl

Sunday afternoon in Stranraer followed by a leap at Blair Atholl in the early hours. Living the high life!

Try telling people that we did this sort of thing for fun, and they just give us funny looks.

 

[Harpo]

Sunday afternoon in Stranraer followed by a leap at Blair Atholl in the early hours. Living the high life!

Try telling people that we did this sort of thing for fun, and they just give us funny looks.

They’d need a weeks notice of the loco numbers and a hotel.

 

[D1511]

Sunday afternoon in Stranraer followed by a leap at Blair Atholl in the early hours. Living the high life!

Try telling people that we did this sort of thing for fun, and they just give us funny looks.

I'd rather spend the early hours in Blair Atholl than any weekday in Stranraer!

 

[D6130]

I'd rather spend the early hours in Blair Atholl than any weekday in Stranraer!

On a weekday in Stranraer you have the Grapes....a fine traditional old bar with real ale and full of old retired railwaymen and ferrymen with lots of interesting and amusing yarns to tell!

 

[Sultan1056]

Sunday afternoon in Stranraer followed by a leap at Blair Atholl in the early hours. Living the high life!

Try telling people that we did this sort of thing for fun, and they just give us funny looks.

That reminds me of my friend who was on a Scottish Rover doing the overnight Blair Atholl leap. He overslept and woke up as the train arrived into Newtonmore. On arrival, there was a train standing in the up platform and so he dashed over the footbridge thinking that the Glasgow bound train must be late. He was initially puzzled why there were no passenger coaches, only parcel vans when he realised it wasn’t a passenger service. He tried to go back and reboard the Inverness service but he was too late. He was now stranded at Newtonmore until the next service; I think it would have been the Royal Highlander service. The only shelter available for the next four hours was the Gents. As you say “We did this for fun”.

 

[D1511]

That reminds me of my friend who was on a Scottish Rover doing the overnight Blair Atholl leap. He overslept and woke up as the train arrived into Newtonmore. On arrival, there was a train standing in the up platform and so he dashed over the footbridge thinking that the Glasgow bound train must be late. He was initially puzzled why there were no passenger coaches, only parcel vans when he realised it wasn’t a passenger service. He tried to go back and reboard the Inverness service but he was too late. He was now stranded at Newtonmore until the next service; I think it would have been the Royal Highlander service. The only shelter available for the next four hours was the Gents. As you say “We did this for fun”.

Ouch! That's an uncomfortable fester alright. Us Scots never had to bother with moves like that ....the locos came to us eventually!
We made daft moves down south though (as can be seen from some of my posts!) and 1C04 was a favourite rover dossing train of mine.......but it would sometimes require a bail at Newport, Cardiff, Swansea or Haverford W, depending on gen (or blind hope). In an attempt to avoid the sort of disaster you've described, I invested in what was then a pretty revolutionary if hideous Casio digital watch with an alarm on it......trouble was, it was a completely ineffective tinny alarm!

 

[D1511]

On a weekday in Stranraer you have the Grapes....a fine traditional old bar with real ale and full of old retired railwaymen and ferrymen with lots of interesting and amusing yarns to tell!

I think I've only actually been to Stranraer a handful of times.......I've been to Holyhead, Milford Haven, Fishguard and Penzance loads more times! I've only been to Kyle and Wick a few times as well!
Back then I'd always rather do a Northumbrian Ranger than a FoS!!

 

[D1537]

Monday 28 July 1986
So anyway ...yes, Blair Atholl it was, and I didn't really like doing this but the reason was - the Stranraer loco from the previous day should, in theory, work the GSW... and it did.

47461 1T04 Blair Atholl-Glasgow QS
47519 pilot 1T04 from Perth to Stirling
47364 1M01 Glasgow C-Carlisle
47364 1S65 Carlisle-Glasgow C
47715 1O32 Glasgow QS-Edinburgh
47012 2J27 Edinburgh-Dundee
47012 2J24 Dundee-Edinburgh
47118 2J33 Edinburgh-Leuchars
47417 1E43 Leuchars-Newcastle

Tuesday 28 July 1987
47444 1O03 Coventry-Banbury
47638 1S39 Banbury-B'ham NS
86253 1J25 B'ham NS-Wolverhampton
47466 1J25 Wolverhampton-Shrewsbury
40122 1M86 Shrewsbury-Crewe
47474 1O09 Crewe-Oxford
47560 1M40 Oxford-Coventry

 

[CD]

Wednesday 28th july 1982

47482 Rhyl-Prestatyn (1K11 0815 Holyhead-Crewe)
47524 Prestatyn-Rhyl (1D32 0840 Stoke-Llandudno)
47443 Rhyl-Chester (1J66 0953 Bangor-Man Vic)
40087 Chester-Holyhead (1D29 1045 Man Vic-Holyhead)
40087 Holyhead-Rhyl (1J53 1517 Holyhead-Man Vic)
47483 Rhyl-Holyhead (1D59 1300 Euston-Holyhead)
40185 Holyhead-Chester (1A82 1805 Holyhead-Euston)
47454 Chester-Flint (1D66 1703 Euston-Holyhead)
40101 Flint-Chester (1J31 1925 Bangor-Man Vic)
DMU Chester-Rhyl

Thursday 28th July 1983

45026 York-Llandudno (1M53 0754 York-Llandudno)
45026 Llandudno-Earlstown (1E53 1324 Llandudno-Scarborough)
40181 Earlstown-Abergele (1M26 1257 Scarborough-Bangor)
45022 Abergele-Dewsbury (1E93 1710 Bangor-York)
45146 Dewsbury-Man Vic (1M80 1925 Scarborough-Liverpool)
DMU Man Pic-Sheffield
45130 Sheffield-St.Pancras (1M10 2359 Sheffield-St.Pancras

Saturday 28th July 1984

50030 Yeovil Jn-Exeter (1V07 0650 Waterloo-Exeter)
45051 Exeter-Bristol TM (1M86 1000 Paignton-Liverpool)
46052 Bristol TM-Newton Abbot (1V73 0911 Man Pic-Newquay)
47093 Newton Abbot-Paignton (1Cxx 1307 Pad-Paignton relief)
47311 Paignton-Exeter (1E32 1645 Paignton-Leeds)
50002 Exeter-Yeovil Jn (1O24 1817 Exeter-Waterloo)

Sunday 28th July 1985

DMU Yeovil PM-Bristol TM
45150 Bristol TM-Doncaster (1E37 1455 Plymouth-Newcastle0
47616 Doncaster-Derby (1V44 2147 York-Plymouth)

 

[Falcon1200]

Thursday 28th July 1983
45111 1307 Paddington-Liverpool LS (Reading-Oxford)

 

[CD]

Thursday 29th July 1982

47364 Rhyl-Llandudno Jn (1D34 0745 Man Vic-Bangor)
47555 Llandudno Jn-Prestatyn (1J66 0953 Bangor-Man Vic)
40056 Prestatyn-Llandudno (1L94 1030 Chester-Llandudno relief)
DMU Llandudno-Llandudno Jn
47364 Llandudno Jn-Colwyn Bay (1J20 1157 Bangor-Man Vic)
40087 Colwyn Bay-Holyhead (1D29 1045 Man Vic-Holyhead)
40087 Holyhead-Chester (1J53 1517 Holyhead-Man Vic)
47482 Chester-Llandudno Jn (1D63 1727 Crewe-Holyhead)
40056 Llandudno Jn-Chester (1L94 1900 Llandudno-Chester relief)
DMU Chester-Rhyl

Friday 29th July 1983

HST St.Pancras-Leicester
45063 Leicester-Nottingham (1E05 0748 Leicester-Leeds)
45121 Nottingham-Leeds (1E05)
46051 Leeds-York (1E06 0905 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45114 York-Huddersfield (1M63 1100 Scarborough-Bangor)
45026 Huddersfield-Scarborough (1E98 1205 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45026 Scarborough-St.Helens Jn (1M77 1600 Scarborough-Liverpool)
45052 St.Helens Jn-Man Vic (1J29 1845 Liverpool-Man Vic)
45108 Man Vic-York (1E93 1700 Bangor-York)
46025 York-Plymouth (1V54 2117 Newcastle-Newquay)

Monday 29th July 1985

45113 Derby-St.Pancras (1C12 0019 Derby-St.Pancras)
45113 St.Pancras-Leicester (1P06 0423 St.Pancras-Leicester)
45110 Leicester-Leeds (1E05 0740 Leicester-Leeds)
45138 Leeds-York (1E06 0905 Liverpool-Scarborough)
45062 York-Scarborough (1E06)
45062 Scarborough-Colwyn Bay (1M26 1255 Scarborough-Bangor)
45006 Colwyn Bay-Leeds (1E93 1703 Holyhead-York)
DMU Leeds-Sheffield

 

[Falcon1200]

Friday 29th July 1983
50011 1215 Paddington-Oxford (from Reading)
33045 1246 Portsmouth Hbr-Leeds (Oxford-Birmingham NS)
47360 1246 ditto Birmingham NS-Burton
87026 2120 Birmingham NS-Liverpool LS (to Stafford)
86238 2025 Euston-Manchester Picc (Stafford-Stockport)
86250 2305 Manchester Picc-Paignton (Stockport-Crewe)

 

[D1537]

Tuesday 29 July 1986
FoS day 5

47417 1S79 Newcastle-Aberdeen
47430 1H27 Aberdeen-Elgin
47110 1A48 Elgin-Aberdeen
47110 1H31 Aberdeen-Inverness
47110 1A52 Inverness-Aberdeen
47461 1B42 Aberdeen-Edinburgh
47635 1H01 Edinburgh-Inverness

 

[D1511]

1246 Portsmouth Hbr-Leeds (Oxford-Birmingham NS)
47360 1246 ditto Birmingham NS-Burton

I knew it'd just be a matter of time..... we must have been waiting on the platform together......! It was new for me too!

Friday 29th July 1983

1C04 00.50 Paddington - Milford Haven 47511 xe OC Paddington - Cardiff C
1A09 22.27 Milford Haven - Paddington 47513 xe OC Cardiff C - Paddington
1A47 08.15 Newbury - Paddington 47486 xe SF Reading - Paddington
1B52 10.20 Paddington - Penzance 47447 xe CD Paddington - Reading
1B68 11.10 Paddington - Bristol TM 50024 xe OC Reading - Bristol TM
1M85 07.40 Penzance - Liverpool LS 50015 xe OC Bristol TM - Birmingham NS
1E22 12.46 Portsmouth H - Leeds 47360 xos TE Birmingham NS - Leeds
1E59 18.05 Liverpool LS - York 45037 xi TO Leeds - York
1V54 21.17 Leeds - Newquay 46025 xd GD Darlington - York
1V57 22.25 Newcastle - Paignton 46026 xd GD York - Doncaster

 

[Commoner]

I knew it'd just be a matter of time..... we must have been waiting on the platform together......! It was new for me too!

Friday 29th July 1983


1B68 11.10 Paddington - Bristol TM 50024 xe OC Reading - Bristol TM

This was an an ad-hoc HST substitution but can you confirm if it was 1B68 12.05 Padd-BTM, or 1B60 11.05 Padd-BTM, please. I guess each would have been 10mins or so later into Temple Meads on the booked schedule.