Back in the day...

[D1511]

A while back I was looking at the Rail-Gen page for this day. According to that, 47330 (which was at the time one of my last 20 or so 47s) did 1M88 Poole-Manchester from Reading.

I've noticed a few discrepancies when I've checked back on Rail Gen in the past, so I certainly don't treat it as gospel.... I suppose it's the same with any other user-generated database......although I have to admit I've never contributed anything to it to improve the content, so I have no right to complain!

Edit: having said that, I've just spot-checked a few random days in my books across 81,82,83 and 84 and it's actually bang on so far, and there's nothing I could add, so it's clearly building up very well.

 

[xotGD]

I have just used Rail Gen to discover that I had the following before becoming a crank:

14th July 1979

37252 1P14 0835 Newcastle - Great Yarmouth between Newcastle - Grassmoor Junction

I did have 252 twice "properly", so no dilemma as to whether I can legitimately apply the red pen.

I already knew that I had 37010 on the return two weeks later. Again, I went on to have it properly.

I only know the dates because I remember David Gower scored 200 in the Test Match.

 

[SW Rover]

Sunday 20th July 1986
A spotting trip to Thornaby shed with a Peak in trouble on the return.
45051 1E06 0846 Liverpool LS - Scarborough (Leeds to York)
HST to Darlington for DMU to Thornaby. NRM 31 D5500 was seen in the shed at TE. DMU back to Darlington.
45132 1M79 1605 Newcastle - Liverpool LS (Darlington to Northallerton)
The fire service attended at Northallerton and are seen inspecting the rear bogie with the driver.

The train was terminated at Northallerton and headed south empty.
The 1005 Inverness - Kings Cross HST made an additonal stop for 1M79 passengers and this was taken to York arriving 7 late.
We then took 45128 York to Leeds. The service was not recorded in my notes but was possibly a replacement 1M79.

 

[Falcon1200]

Wednesday 20th July 1983
47247 0650 Oxford-Paddington (to Didcot)
47142 1240 Paddington-Manchester Picc (Reading-Oxford)

 

[D1511]

Friday 20th July 1984

1Z43 08.43 Edinburgh - Leuchars (Open Golfex) 47360 xos TE Edinburgh - Leuchars
2L36 11.18 Edinburgh - Dundee 47355 xos CD Kirkcaldy - Dundee
2G62 13.28 Dundee - Edinburgh 47355 xos CD Dundee - Haymarket

 

[SW Rover]

Monday 21st July 1986
45148 1E00 0703 Liverpool LS - Scarborough (Leeds to York)
45139 1M67 0953 Scarborough - Liverpool LS (York to Leeds)
47557 1V65 0943 Newcastle - Penzance (Leeds to Sheffield)
31447 1E42 1145 Liverpool LS - Cleethorpes (Sheffield to Doncaster)
45131 1E99 1112 Bangor - Newcastle (York to Darlington)
45058 1M32 1617 Newcastle - Liverpool LS (Darlington to York)
45133 1M79 1753 Scarborough - Liverpool LS (York to Leeds)

Saturday 21st July 1990
87101 1J45 2250 FO Euston - Pwllheli (Birmingham New St - Wolverhampton)
37428 1J45 2250 FO Euston - Pwllheli (Wolverhampton - Pwllheli)
1J45 dep Wolves at 0112 and had an overnight stop on the Shrewsbury avoider down loop behind the signal box.
Could anyone help with the booked arr and dep times for this stop?
37428 1A52 0932 Pwllheli - Euston (to Welshpool)
37429 1J25 0903 Euston - Pwllheli (from Welshpool)
37429 1A84 1656 Pwllheli - Euston (to Wolverhampton)
90022 1A84 1656 Pwllheli - Euston (Wolverhampton - Birmingham New St)
86251 1A?? 2155 Wolverhampton - Euston (Birmingham New St - Coventry)

 

[D1537]

Thursday 21 July 1988
Rocked up for the usual afternoon move to find one-way dragging was happening between Coventry and Rugby. A couple of 58s were out, plus something more friendly.

47156 1A46 Coventry-Rugby
310086 2G34 Rugby-Coventry
47656 1V97 Coventry-Oxford
47565 1M58 Oxford-Coventry

 

[D1511]

Friday 22nd July 1983

1E45 21.10 Edinburgh - London KX 47475 xe BS Edinburgh - Berwick (missing from Railgen I notice, so perhaps I should send stuff in.....but the rest are all there)
1E41 19.30 Aberdeen - London KX 47414 xd GD Berwick - York

Saturday 23rd July 1983

1N20 00.05 London KX - Newcastle 47076 xb BR York - Durham
1V79 08.17 York - Tenby 47069 xi BR York - Leeds
1E00 07.05 Liverpool LS - Scarborough 47459 xe BS Leeds - York
1V44 10.00 York - Swansea 47359 xos TO York - Sheffield
2L63 12.29 Sheffield - York 37097 xb MR Ulleskelf - York (dmu turn - thanks to some local gen!)
1N13 09.10 Yarmouth - Newcastle 37115 xb SF York - Newcastle

 

[D1537]

Thursday 23 July 1987
497th Brush ticked off.

86401 1P02 Coventry-B'ham NS
47489 1V59 B'ham NS-Cheltenham
47443 1E67 Cheltenham-Sheffield
47287 1M12 Sheffield-Nottingham
43054+43094 Nottingham-Leicester
47611 1M77 Leicester-B'ham NS
47515 1V99 B'ham NS-Coventry

 

[D1511]

Sunday 24th July 1983

1C97 23.40 Edinburgh - Carstairs 47712 xeh HA Edinburgh - Carstairs
1V61 23.55 Glasgow C - Bristol TM 85006 xe CE Carstairs - Preston
1V61 23.55 Glasgow C - Bristol TM 47463 xe CD Preston - Crewe (via Lostock Jn., Manchester Picc & Stockport)
1V61 23.55 Glasgow C - Bristol TM 47463 xe CD/47220 xis HM Crewe - Birmingham NS (both locos working, so I assume a loco positioning move)
1V61 23.55 Glasgow C - Bristol TM 50036 xe LA Birmingham NS - Bristol TM
(Not a bad selection of locos considering I was in the same coach all the way!)
2O07 12.00 Reading - Portsmouth 33115 xem EH Reading - Basingstoke
2V34 11.08 Portsmouth H - Reading 33117 xem EH Basingstoke - Reading
1M03 11.59 Portsmouth H - Liverpool LS 47299 xos IM Reading - Oxford
1V78 10.55 Manchester Picc - London Paddington 47193 xos CD Oxford - Reading
2O11 16.00 Reading - Portsmouth H 33108 xem EH Reading - Basingstoke
1O18 13.35 Exeter St D - London Waterloo 50037 xe LA Basingstoke - London Waterloo
1P68 18.35 London Liverpool St - Kings Lynn 47085 xb SF London Liverpool St - Audley End
1C65 18.30 Kings Lynn - London Liverpool St 47276 xos SF Audley End - London Liverpool St

 

[xotGD]

47287

The only 47 I ever had banking up the Lickey.

Needless to say, not what I was expecting or wanting!

 

[D1511]

The only 47 I ever had banking up the Lickey.

Needless to say, not what I was expecting or wanting!

You must've been gutted! A Thornaby one as well, just to rub it in!

 

[D1537]

The only 47 I ever had banking up the Lickey.

Needless to say, not what I was expecting or wanting!

Never had a 47 banking up the Lickey. In fact, never had anything but 37s apart from ... 45146. Cheers

The Christmas Cracker II

 

[CD]

Friday 23rd July 1982

47535 Rhyl-Prestatyn (1K11 0815 Holyhead-Crewe)
47466 Prestatyn-Rhyl (1D32 0840 Stoke-Llandudno)
40104 Rhyl-Chester (1J66 0953 Bangor-Man Vic)
40055 Chester-Holyhead (1045 Man Vic-Holyhead)
40055 Holyhead-Rhyl (1J53 1517 Holyhead-Man Vic)
47474 Rhyl-Holyhead (1D59 1300 Euston-Holyhead)
40091 Holyhead-Chester (1A82 1805 Holyhead-Euston)
47443 Chester-Flint (1D66 1703 Euston-Holyhead)
47068 Flint-Man Vic (1J31 1925 Bangor-Man Vic)
40055 Man Vic-Rhyl (1D77 2240 Man Vic-Holyhead)

Saturday 23rd July 1983

47235 Yeovil PM-Weymouth (2O56 0842 Cardiff-Weymouth)
47238 Weymouth-Yeovil PM (1V31 1600 Weymouth-Cardiff)
46016 Yeovil PM-Weymouth (2O60 1622 Bristol-Weymouth)
46016 Weymouth-Yeovil PM (2V72 1957 Weymouth-Bristol)

Saturday 24th July 1982

47535 Rhyl-Llandudno Jn (1D04 0605 Crewe-Llandudno)
40194 Llandudno-Colwyn Bay (1J10 0709 Bangor-Man Vic)
DMU Colwyn Bay-Llandudno
40177 Llandudno-Rhyl (1E86 0900 Llandudno-York)
40104 Rhyl-Llandudno Jn (1D34 0745 Man Vic-Bangor)
47539 Llandudno-Flint (1K28 0920 Holyhead-Crewe)
40135 Flint-Llandudno Jn (1D35 0945 Man Vic-Bangor)
40104 Llandudno Jn-Colwyn Bay (1J30 1157 Bangor-Man Vic)
40006 Colwyn Bay-Llandudno Jn (1M71 0900 York-Llandudno)
40001 Llandudno Jn-Chester (1A56 1256 Holyhead-Euston)
40131 Chester-Warrington BQ (1E82 1353 Llandudno-York)
25117 Warrington BQ-Milepost 15.75 failure (1D21 1545 Man Vic-Bangor)
40170 Milepost 15.75-Llandudno Jn (1D21 1545 Man Vic-Bangor terminate Llandudno Jn due to lateness)
40170 Llandudno Jn-Man Vic (1J31 1944 Llandudno Jn-Man Vic)
40194 Man Vic-Warrington BQ (1D77 2240 Man Vic-Holyhead) loco change.
40129 Warrington BQ-Rhyl (1D77 2240 Man Vic-Holyhead)

 

[Harpo]

Never had a 47 banking up the Lickey. In fact, never had anything but 37s apart from ... 45146. Cheers

The Christmas Cracker II

Regular Lickey banking was done by Bromsgrove men until the depot closed and, post-Hymeks, I think they were 37s only for official traction knowledge and something like Worcester-Bromsgrove-New St (+Saltley?) on route knowledge.

That doesn’t stop any passing light engine being used to assist or something being sent from elsewhere but it sounds like it was a rarity.

 

[xotGD]

Never had a 47 banking up the Lickey. In fact, never had anything but 37s apart from ... 45146. Cheers

The Christmas Cracker II

I was on that tour too.

 

[NorthWestRover]

I was on that tour too.

And me

 

[NorthWestRover]

Friday 23rd July 1982

47535 Rhyl-Prestatyn (1K11 0815 Holyhead-Crewe)
47466 Prestatyn-Rhyl (1D32 0840 Stoke-Llandudno)
40104 Rhyl-Chester (1J66 0953 Bangor-Man Vic)
40055 Chester-Holyhead (1045 Man Vic-Holyhead)
40055 Holyhead-Rhyl (1J53 1517 Holyhead-Man Vic)
47474 Rhyl-Holyhead (1D59 1300 Euston-Holyhead)
40091 Holyhead-Chester (1A82 1805 Holyhead-Euston)
47443 Chester-Flint (1D66 1703 Euston-Holyhead)
47068 Flint-Man Vic (1J31 1925 Bangor-Man Vic)
40055 Man Vic-Rhyl (1D77 2240 Man Vic-Holyhead)

Saturday 23rd July 1983

47235 Yeovil PM-Weymouth (2O56 0842 Cardiff-Weymouth)
47238 Weymouth-Yeovil PM (1V31 1600 Weymouth-Cardiff)
46016 Yeovil PM-Weymouth (2O60 1622 Bristol-Weymouth)
46016 Weymouth-Yeovil PM (2V72 1957 Weymouth-Bristol)

Saturday 24th July 1982

47535 Rhyl-Llandudno Jn (1D04 0605 Crewe-Llandudno)
40194 Llandudno-Colwyn Bay (1J10 0709 Bangor-Man Vic)
DMU Colwyn Bay-Llandudno
40177 Llandudno-Rhyl (1E86 0900 Llandudno-York)
40104 Rhyl-Llandudno Jn (1D34 0745 Man Vic-Bangor)
47539 Llandudno-Flint (1K28 0920 Holyhead-Crewe)
40135 Flint-Llandudno Jn (1D35 0945 Man Vic-Bangor)
40104 Llandudno Jn-Colwyn Bay (1J30 1157 Bangor-Man Vic)
40006 Colwyn Bay-Llandudno Jn (1M71 0900 York-Llandudno)
40001 Llandudno Jn-Chester (1A56 1256 Holyhead-Euston)
40131 Chester-Warrington BQ (1E82 1353 Llandudno-York)
25117 Warrington BQ-Milepost 15.75 failure (1D21 1545 Man Vic-Bangor)
40170 Milepost 15.75-Llandudno Jn (1D21 1545 Man Vic-Bangor terminate Llandudno Jn due to lateness)
40170 Llandudno Jn-Man Vic (1J31 1944 Llandudno Jn-Man Vic)
40194 Man Vic-Warrington BQ (1D77 2240 Man Vic-Holyhead) loco change.
40129 Warrington BQ-Rhyl (1D77 2240 Man Vic-Holyhead)

I was on several of those moves in 1982

 

[D1511]

And me

I wanted to go but couldn't because of a family wedding.
A 40 thrashing through the Severn Tunnel must have been ace.

 

[Falcon1200]

1M03 11.59 Portsmouth H - Liverpool LS 47299 xos IM Reading - Oxford

A further trip with 47299 (nee 47216) will appear tomorrow (over the same route too!)

Friday 23rd July 1982

I never managed a North Wales Class 40 bash, to my eternal regret. I am envious!

 

[D1511]

A further trip with 47299 (nee 47216) will appear tomorrow (over the same route too!)

Now that's a unique renumbering back story......!
It disappeared out of service a few months after this, after it hit the DMU at Barnetby.

I never managed a North Wales Class 40 bash, to my eternal regret. I am envious!

Those 40 moves were obviously fabulous, but some of the fellow bashers, much less so......I think I've mentioned the brawl at WBQ earlier on here......

 

[D1537]

Thursday 24 July 1986
It's Freedom of Scotland time again

47547 1M03 Coventry-B'ham NS
47429 1F09 B'ham NS-Crewe
81012 1S39 Crewe-Carlisle
47468 1S88 Carlisle-Glasgow C
47705 1O60 Glasgow QS-Edinburgh
47630 1H01 Edinburgh-Inverness

 

[xotGD]

It's Freedom of Scotland time again

So plenty of Class 37 action to report over the coming days then...

 

[D1537]

So plenty of Class 37 action to report over the coming days then...

There is, unsurprisingly, 7 days of Class 47 action coming up ... and one Class 37 (not a 37/4 either!)

 

[D1537]

1V61 23.55 Glasgow C - Bristol TM 47463 xe CD/47220 xis HM Crewe - Birmingham NS (both locos working, so I assume a loco positioning move)

Assisting engine for the route over Cannock, was booked a pair of locos.

 

[Harpo]

Assisting engine for the route over Cannock, was booked a pair of locos.

And in July, so not autumn. I mentioned in another thread a few days ago having the northbound slip to a stand at Bloxwich with a single 47. Maybe there were more instances?

 

[CW2]

And me

Me too.

ISTR that the Lickey Banker for the Bristol - Glasgow overnight was different on a Saturday night. With no freight running there wasn't a booked banker turn Saturday pm, so a loco was sent out from Saltley (?) specifically to bank the sleepers - hence the appearance of unwanted ETH 45s / 47s on it instead of the hoped for massive 37s.

 

[D1537]

And in July, so not autumn. I mentioned in another thread a few days ago having the northbound slip to a stand at Bloxwich with a single 47. Maybe there were more instances?

Possibly, though if I remember correctly, in the timetable mentioned above the second loco was booked for a 47/4 and had a continuing passenger diagram from Brum so the sleeper was sometimes a pair even if it didn't go over Cannock.

 

[xotGD]

Me too.

ISTR that the Lickey Banker for the Bristol - Glasgow overnight was different on a Saturday night. With no freight running there wasn't a booked banker turn Saturday pm, so a loco was sent out from Saltley (?) specifically to bank the sleepers - hence the appearance of unwanted ETH 45s / 47s on it instead of the hoped for massive 37s.

I usually had a single 37 on a Saturday night.

Better on a Saturday was when the train was diverted and a 37 was attached at Worcester as a pilot engine to Brum.

 

[D1511]

Assisting engine for the route over Cannock, was booked a pair of locos.

Ah, thanks. It was a load 16 or so, so that figures. Thankfully it wasn't an ETH one that was attached that night!