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... And for every day that falls just right (those 1985 Cambrian Summers Saturdays were easy) there are those where Duff after Duff after Duff bowled you out.
 
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Thursday 1st June 1973:

Cairngorm Chairlift: Glenmore Lodge-Cairngorm and return. Sorry, no idea of the mileage and forgot to record the chair numbers!
 

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Thursday 1st June 1973:

Cairngorm Chairlift: Glenmore Lodge-Cairngorm and return. Sorry, no idea of the mileage and forgot to record the chair numbers!
That's desperate, even by my standards!
 

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That's desperate, even by my standards!
Aye....but it was a family day out from the caravan site at Aviemore and - for once - I quite fancied it. It was the last day of our Highland holiday and the weather and views were superb; plus the walk from the chairlift top station to the summit of Cairn Gorm was great.
 

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1st June 1982:

I had started a Northumbrian Ranger on Pope Day so was out the rest of the week. This day proved to be better than Pope Day:

47009 Sunderland - Newcastle 1N04
40081 Newcastle - Carlisle 1M04
40081 Carlisle - Newcastle 1S15
46011 Newcastle - Durham 1M79
47276 Durham - Newcastle 1E74

A couple of the other lads did a leap to Annan, getting a 25 there and 27204 on the way back. I registered this move for later in the week. Among the sightings at Carlisle was 83009, I think on passenger.

1st June 1985 - a summer Saturday:

37191 Newcastle - Durham 1E28
37029 Darlington - Newcastle 1N13 (This looks odd - how did I get to Darlo? Perhaps I covered something at Durham, rejected it and headed south on a Tram)
45114 Newcastle - Darlington 1M32
37191 Darlington - Newcastle 1S51

1st June 1986:

We clearly weren't too hung over from the previous evening in Cheltenham, and were up and out for the drags:

58035 (+86102) New St - Nuneaton 1A06
58035 (+86244) Nuneaton - New St 1G05 (The same train that QJ was on from Euston)

This was the first time I had a 58 on the Nuneaton drags. I managed 8 of them in total - way fewer than some of the local cranks.

1st June 1991:

Another day with the West Mids Travelcard. Haulages were:

86245, 87005, 86219, 87004, 86102 (No Class 58 on the front this time!), 47849, 87012, 87028, 47802, 86260, 47831, 90005
 

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I wonder why I didn't ever do the Nuneaton drags. Maybe too keen on getting the Goyles in.
 

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I wonder why I didn't ever do the Nuneaton drags. Maybe too keen on getting the Goyles in.
I did a couple of days on the drags. If this thread is still going strong in October, there will be (another) tale to tell, involving an ETH 47, a 58, and some very dodgy interpretations of the rule book...
 

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Thursday 2nd June 1983

Not much early on, picked up with the 81. Then some strange unit moves - maybe first time I'd done Helsby to Hooton, then a 47/0 and eventually a 40 on the trusty old 1M22.

86232 Warrington BQ to Wigan NW
47454 Wigan NW to Preston
08846 shunted portions together
87014 Preston to Crewe
86223 Crewe to Preston
81013 Preston to Warrington BQ
Cl108 DMU Warrington BQ to Helsby
Cl101 DMU Helsby to Hooton (can't do that now)
Cl101 DMU Hooton to Rock Ferry (all Merseyrail EMUs on this now)
Cl503 EMU Rock Ferry to Liverpool Central (along with the Cl502, which had all gone by 1983, these were the predecessors of the 507/508 which are now on their way out)
507002 Liverpool Central to Aigburth
508041 Aigburth to Kirkby
Cl105 Cravens DMU Kirkby to Wigan Wallgate (note in my moves book says - What a Beast)
47096 Wigan NW to Preston
87016 Preston to Lancaster
87026 Lancaster to Preston
40118 (yay) Preston to Liverpool LS on 1M22, 16.20 off Glasgow
Cl108 DMU Liverpool LS to Warrington C

The only other recorded move for 2nd June was in 1988, 47536 from Oxford to Wolverhampton after a week with my girlfriend. Back to do my Finals.
 

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Friday 2nd June 1973:

Ford Zodiac WGM 433F (hauling Sprite Musketeer caravan): Aviemore-Helensburgh via Perth, Stirling and Balloch.

Didn't have the chance for any proper haulage that day and my meagre pocket money didn't stretch to making the journey by train....but I cunningly suggested a food/comfort stop in a lay-by on the A9 near Auchterarder, which was very close to the railway! While we were there, 365 and 5325 passed by.
 

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Friday 02/06/78
50033 1756 Reading – Paddington
47158 2300 Liverpool Street – Ipswich (continued tomorrow …)

Saturday 02/06/79
A summer Saturday in Yorkshire. Usually it would be a case of “So many trains, so little time” but this morning I started late, and there didn’t seem to be a lot on offer, until the 0900 Chesterfield – Scarborough arrived:
37082 1045 York – Scarborough
At Scarborough my plan was to board the 1240 Scarborough – Leicester behind 46033, which did the line via Beverley then the Hull Avoider. However I overheard the station supervisor saying to a colleague “It’s 41 minutes late. They say there’s a pair of Type 1s on it.” The train concerned was the 1031 Hull – Scarborough – normally a DMU turn. One of the 20s on it had suffered a bogie fire en route, so the crew had stopped and doused the flames, then continued. At Scarborough it entered the platform very slowly, as they had requested a platform where they could work on the loco, but it had been routed into a bay platform with platform faces at both sides. I was on tenterhooks to see whether or not the locos would work back – I’d never had any class 20s for haulage, and I’d never done the Hull – Scarborough line with anything. Eventually both the 20s were pronounced healthy, and after the resident 03 had shunted the stock, it formed:
20092 + 20131 1402 Scarborough – Hull (all stations)
The rest of the day was an anticlimax.
DMU Hull – Selby
There I waited for the 1405 Kings Cross – York, which was 55021 (or so I was led to believe)…
47404 1645 Selby – York (25’ late having replaced 55021 at Doncaster - cheers).

Wednesday 02/06/82
More Pontificating – this time the Pope is in Cardiff, and 40148 had worked down the Marches on an additional service. Also, some of the Barry Island services were being loco hauled (for reasons that escape me, possibly due to the DMUs being used for Pope shuttles?).
43141 + 43142 1510 Paddington – Cardiff
37295 1825 Cardiff – Barry Island
37295 2005 Barry Island – Cardiff
40148 2110 Cardiff – Crewe
It was a lovely warm evening, and 40148 was in charge of 10 mk 1 coaches, and it was in top form. The train was 50 minutes late start, waiting drivers (there were 5 of them in the cab leaving Cardiff). We had a crew change at Newport, then set off up the Marches, destination unknown!
- The Western Region Special Traffic Notice showed the train terminating at Craven Arms
- The London Midland Special Traffic Notice showed the train terminating at Shrewsbury
- The Public timetable supplement showed it as a through train to Holyhead
On arrival at Shrewsbury the train “terminated”, and the Ebbw Junction men were relieved by Bescot men taking the ECS to Oxley carriage sidings. This is where we opened negotiations with the Shrewsbury supervisor, showing him the public supplement, and asking politely how we were supposed to get to Holyhead please? It was arranged for the Ebbw Junction men to have their PNB, then conduct the Bescot men through to Crewe with us all on board. Excellent result. On arrival at Crewe, the forward service train to Holyhead was a nice Crewe ETH 47, so suddenly everybody lost any interest in going to Holyhead, and dispersed quietly into the night. In my case I hung around for a Roarer to take me home to Euston:
(Thu 03/06/82)
81001 0330 Crewe - Euston (That’ll do very nicely, thank you.)

Sunday 02/06/85
Summer Sunday mornings at Carlisle were interesting in those days. The overheads were switched off between Glasgow and Carlisle for maintenance late Saturday evening until around 3pm Sunday – hence my arrival behind 47490 (see previous post). There were various northbound passenger and newspaper services which needed to be found diesel locos. They were all on paper diagrammed for ETH 47s, and there were never enough to go round. The favourite to produce something different was the 1935 Paignton – Glasgow, which was a rake of 12 old Mk 1 coaches which had headed south from Glasgow on Friday night. This morning they scraped the bottom of the barrel and I hit the jackpot:
27103 0325 Carlisle – Glasgow Central
A single 27 – not a pair – on load 12, from Carlisle to Glasgow under the wires, with the little matter of 10 miles of 1 in 75 of Beattock to face. What manner of madness is this?
From the platform end at Carlisle until passing Abington (on the downhill run after Beattock) the power handle was wide open for 72 minutes. It took until passing Lockerbie for us to achieve 60 mph. The sun rises early in June in these latitudes, so we slogged up Beattock at a sedate 17 - 18 mph in early morning sunlight. The guard stood with me in the front vestibule admiring the 27 thrashing its guts out and the sunlit scenery passing by very slowly indeed. What an epic thrash this was. 27103 performed faultlessly. On arrival (somewhat late) at Glasgow Central, I’d have every excuse to go home to bed, but there was more to follow. Of course, 27103 couldn’t be expected to work back south, but it had arrived in a 47/4 diagram, so something had to be found to replace it on its next working, the 0905 Glasgow Central – Poole via Dumfries. How about a required NB 37 on your Air Cons sir? That’ll do nicely!
37004 0905 Glasgow Central – Carlisle via Dumfries

81011 + 37004 02Jun85.jpgSunday 02/06/85. 37004 has just arrived at Carlisle with the 0905 Glasgow Central – Poole, which 81011 is waiting to re-engine.

The preceding 0805 Glasgow – Euston had been worked by 47550, but that was short on hours for an “A” exam, so it got stopped and sent to Kingmoor upon arrival at Carlisle. That meant 37004 had to be turned straight round and work straight back north again:
37004 1303 Carlisle – Glasgow Central via Dumfries – also on Air Cons.
To finish off the day, how about a pair of 37s out of Queen Street? Oh, go on then …
37037 + 37014 1750 Glasgow Queen Street – Crianlarich
37192 1942 Crianlarich – Glasgow Queen Street
Incidentally, on one of the weeks when I was unable to cover the Paignton turn ex Carlisle, it got a pair of class 20s from Carlisle to Glasgow via Beattock. I expect they were somewhat quicker than 27103 on the uphill sections!

Tuesday 02/06/87
37430 1719 Crewe – Leominster
47481 1958 Leominster – Crewe

Tuesday 02/06/88
37426 0757 Crewe – Liverpool
37426 0915 Liverpool – Crewe
 

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Great stuff! To my dismay, I have just discovered another notebook with details of lots of interesting journeys from March/April/May 1981. Ah well....I suppose they'll just have to wait until next year!
 

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2nd June 1982:

Continuing with my Northumbrian Ranger - the day started well, then, meh...

40085 Sunderland - Newcastle 1N04 (another blast through the tunnel out of Sunlun!)
45126 Newcastle - York 1O19
47449 York - Darlo 1E79
45113 Darlo - York 1M75
47478 York - Newcastle 1E55
47449 (again) Newcastle - Durham 1M79
47094 Durham - Newcastle 1E74

2nd June 1984:

A summer Saturday with nothing much doing. However, that year one of the trains that terminated at Newcastle went ecs to Carlisle, and the loco for the ecs came across light engine from Carlisle. We got the gen that a unit had fagged, and the loco had been commandeered. Next unit westbound - it was already in the platform and we only just made it:

25035 Prudhoe - Newcastle 2E42

2nd June 1990:

Another West Mids runabout, the day topped and tailed by Roarers:

85003 New St - Wolves
Then 90024, 90041, 87032, 86225, 90008, 90007, 87028
85008 Wolves - New St
 

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Jeepers! A 25 from Carlisle to Glasgow up the mainline is epic enough on its own, but to then have a round trip with 37004, as well as the other 37s, WOW!

I'm currently in Greater Manchester, earlier today I was at Stockport after a leap from Piccadilly on a 390. Which reminded me of May 2004 and a day of 87s, 90s, MML HSTs and a couple of other bits, but given we've gone past May now and I can't remember what was 87s, 90s and so on it'll wait until 2022!

It's 13 years this summer since the last 'proper sounding' HSTs were in action on the XC network. Goodness...14 years since I did 43007+43184 from Birmingham to Glasgow on an XC tour too, the memories...

None of my lot of course is anything special compared to the stuff I read about in this thread mind! Presently I'm waiting on a pair of 331s to take me from Bolton to Manchester Oxford Road where I should get to score a 397 on an insect leap to Piccadilly. A vastly different world!
 

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Ah yes, too much reading of this thread is bad for the brain. It's a different world now - and one with much less variety. I can't work up any enthusiasm for clearing any of the various classes of EMUs or Hybrids that are being produced nowadays. Overseas railways have more to offer on the loco-hauled front.
Mind you, there's plenty more epic silliness to come!
 

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Ah yes, too much reading of this thread is bad for the brain. It's a different world now - and one with much less variety. I can't work up any enthusiasm for clearing any of the various classes of EMUs or Hybrids that are being produced nowadays. Overseas railways have more to offer on the loco-hauled front.
Mind you, there's plenty more epic silliness to come!
The thing is, there was so much working all over the country and you couldn't be everywhere. Whatever great moves you made, you always missed something just as big.

I remember getting home after a week in Scotland to discover that we'd missed a pair of 20s on the Scarborough - Newcastle.
 

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I can't work up any enthusiasm for clearing any of the various classes of EMUs or Hybrids that are being produced nowadays.
Since returning to logging things, I got quite excited when I cleared the Northern 319s and I'm now aiming to do the Northern 323s. That trainspotter gene doesn't go away.

195s and 331s will next be in line along with the Northern 150s. Maybe 507s and 508s although I commuted Ormskirk to Liverpool and Bache to Liverpool for a couple of years without recording a move, so I know I've done them many times over.
 

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Ah yes, too much reading of this thread is bad for the brain. It's a different world now - and one with much less variety. I can't work up any enthusiasm for clearing any of the various classes of EMUs or Hybrids that are being produced nowadays. Overseas railways have more to offer on the loco-hauled front.
Mind you, there's plenty more epic silliness to come!

I don't have as much enthusiasm as I used to for it all, I have to confess. Long gone are the days I could easily sit on a DMU for hours, or do a full-on hunt without boredom kicking in. Mind you, in a lot of places I go that's partly down to what's on offer and partly because I've cleared a lot of stuff already!

As for going overseas, yeah there is tons of interest there. I recently re-read my Budapest 2019 trip report, and I have to confess if I went back now I would definitely give the 631s (I think, that number is based on memory) a go. They sounded amazing. Mind you, I'd also be happy with SNCB 18s and 19s in Belgium (although a 21 or 27 would be preferred), and those CFL 3000s are awesome. Didn't mind the 4000s either to be fair. Never done any of DB's Rabbits, was going to go many times years ago but it never worked out. I did like the LA Metrolink system mind, the older ones were good but I didn't mind the newer locos, they were decent enough.

Since returning to logging things, I got quite excited when I cleared the Northern 319s and I'm now aiming to do the Northern 323s. That trainspotter gene doesn't go away.

195s and 331s will next be in line along with the Northern 150s. Maybe 507s and 508s although I commuted Ormskirk to Liverpool and Bache to Liverpool for a couple of years without recording a move, so I know I've done them many times over.

I'm nearly done with the 150s myself now, down to just 113/119/228 to get. Well, technically there's the 'new' ones but I had them as those numbers in LM days so I'm not super bothered about the new 150003-150006. I had plenty of chance today to get them, but couldn't be bothered!

Got my last 185 today, and two of the new Metrolink trams, so tomorrow is a focus on 195s and 331s, unless of course I find the 150s and my last two Northern 158s on RTT in the morning! That allocation thing is wonderfully helpful!
 

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Oh yes, I forgot about the 185s. I've recorded over half of those since I came back. Probably my favourite of the "modern" units. Going a bit off topic now...
 

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Yes indeed, we'd best behave with going off-topic :lol: Although I do have to agree, the 185s are rather good fun.

I have a hunch I've got some 2012 nostalgia to dig out for this thread this month, I did a fair bit of all sorts on that 14 day ALR and it could be interesting
 

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I have a hunch I've got some 2012 nostalgia to dig out for this thread this month, I did a fair bit of all sorts on that 14 day ALR and it could be interesting
2012 Nostalgia? That's way too recent for me. In this thread I've voluntraily drawn a line at 31st December 2000 - and after an earlier foray into foreign lands I'm now restricting myself to UK only. (I hope you'll agree there is adequate material there to be going on with).
 

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2012 Nostalgia? That's way too recent for me. In this thread I've voluntraily drawn a line at 31st December 2000 - and after an earlier foray into foreign lands I'm now restricting myself to UK only. (I hope you'll agree there is adequate material there to be going on with).

Oh I have no doubt on that, from the epic stuff you've already shared I have no doubt there's plenty more to come!

I only arrived on the haulage scene properly in late 2004/early 2005, but I have various bits of loco haulage that I fondly remember. No dates for any of it mind, and there are literally thousands of photos lost to the mysteries of the universe. All my moves books and spotting books got chucked out a couple of years back, so it's a bit difficult to look back properly for me.

When we get to December, I will have to share the tale of my first ever 56 with 56312, way back in December 2008. That sure made an impression on the way back from Carlisle...If I can ever remember the date for it, Buffer Puffer 9.0 where the windscreen smashed inwards at Berkhamsted on the 37, I might have to remember fondly the racket from a single 37 thrashing up the WCML...

October I'll have nostalgia with multiple locos too, there's plenty from the mid to late 2000s that I have to share. Just finding the dates for it all!
 

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Saturday 03/06/78
I think I was testing my Reading to York student single to the limits of its validity – but legitimately so. Only my second ever run with a class 37.
37087 0101 Ipswich – Peterborough
47507 0546 Peterborough – Doncaster
I’ve lost track of what happened next! Why on earth did I alight at Doncaster?

Sunday 03/06/79
47364 1855 York – Huddersfield
45011 2034 Huddersfield – Leeds
DMU Leeds – Bradford Exchange
31410 2205 Bradford Exchange – Leeds
47038 2315 Leeds – York

Friday 03/06/83
45103 1750 York – Scarborough
37107 1913 Scarborough – York

Saturday 03/06/89
90017 1447 Crewe – Stafford
87017 1557 Stafford – Rugby
86253 1803 Rugby – Stafford
90009 1849 Stafford – Crewe
My first run with 90017, still almost brand new, followed by a bit more AC electric bashing.
 

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Thursday 3rd June 1982

The Bangor!!

40170 Warrington BQ to Bangor, 1D34 07.45 Man Vic to Bangor
40170 Bangor to Man Vic, 1J30 11.57 Bangor to Man Vic
40170 Man Vic to Colwyn Bay, 1D21 Man Vic to Bangor
40096 Colwyn Bay to Chester, 1G12 18.10 Llandudno to Birmingham NS
UNIT Chester to Flint
40170 Flint to Warrington BQ, 1J31 19.25 Bangor to Man Vic

Quite a few 40 bashers would do all 400 miles of the four Man Vic to Bangor runs if The Bangor was allocated a 40. I just did the 290 miles behind 170 on this day. Plus 40.5 behind 096. Nice day.

Friday 3rd June 1983

A year later and it was the usual frustration of more often than not waiting around for 1M22 for a 40 - sometimes. I was well into 87s around now, so I was happy to thrash up and down the middle segment of the WCML whilst keeping an eye on the diesels dropping on to Blackpool, Barrow, Liverpool, Manchester, Holyhead services. Midweek the North Wales Coast wasn't great around now. The occasional roarer might turn up too (not today though).

87021 Warrington BQ to Crewe
86224 Crewe to Preston
47466 Preston to Blackpool
47451 Blackpool to Preston
87020 Preston to Crewe
87015 Crewe to Preston
47482 Preston to Lancaster
47555 Lancaster to Preston
87022 Preston to Warrington BQ
86314 Warrington BQ to Wigan NW
86214 Wigan NW to Preston
47317 Preston to Wigan NW, 1M22, ah well
87022 Wigan NW to Preston
86222 Preston to Crewe
86248 Crewe to Warrington BQ

Cans and duffs, duffs and cans. A few 87s to add to mileage.
 

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3rd June 1982 - the Ranger continues - decided to have another day in Carlisle:

46018 Sunderland - Newcastle 1N04
47421 Newcastle - Carlisle 1M04

Decided to do the Annan move, which worked out well:

27019 Carlisle - Annan 1S37
26035 Annan - Carlisle 1M06

83005 put in an appearance at Carlisle. Then more Duff moves to round off the day:

47421 Carlisle - Newcastle 1S15
47463 Newcastle - Durham 1M79
47205 Durham - Newcastle 1E74

3rd June 1990 - West Mids outing again. Highlight of the day was:

85102 New St - Wolves (via Soho and Bescot)

This was my only run behind an 85/1.

Also had 87013, 86257, 86439, 90043, 90041, 86219.

3rd June 1995 - A day out on the North Norfolk Railway. Locos working were:

20227
D5207
D5386
08767 + 12131

Here is a phot of the two Type 2s in action the following day:D5386 D5207.jpg:
 

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I never had any 85/1s, although I had 85102 as 85009 previously.
I've never ventured to the North Norfolk Railway. One to bookmark for the future.
Getting the high-numbered class 90s wasn't particularly easy, so picking up both 90041 and 90043 on the same day was good going.
 

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