Sultan1056
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A great pub and well worth a visit.
The Trafalger Bay was one of the cheapest pubs in town. 46p a pint when I first made a visit.
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Sultan1056
Member
Friday 31st October 1980
45107 York-Newcastle (1608 Bristol TM-Newcastle)
Saturday 31st October 1981
Unbeknown to me Deltic 14 suffered a boiler failure shortly after its departure from Kings Cross. At Peterborough 31270 was added to provide train heating and at York both locos were removed in favour of 47416! It ended up being my last run with No 14, even though it was back out in service by eight that morning it succumbed less than two weeks later with a traction motor defect. I was now stranded in Scotland with no Deltics present to work the final loco hauled Edinburgh-Plymouth service. I initially thought about spending the day sampling the loco hauled Edinburgh-Dundee services but by mid morning I gave up and decided to head back south via Carlisle. I’m not sure if this was the best move because it was 1630 by the time I managed to reach Doncaster and the possibility of some Deltic haulage. My first available train, the 1403 KX-York, arrived late with 31186 hauling a set of MkI coaches. When I arrived into York I was completely fed up with my day and I almost went home. However, the 31 was despatched to York depot and in its place Deltic 8, still operating on one engine, was provided for the return journey to Kings Cross. Only15 hours between Deltics!
31270+55014 Peterborough-York (2355 Kings Cross-Edinburgh)
47416 York-Edinburgh (2355 Kings Cross-Edinburgh)
25059 Edinburgh-Inverkeithing (0825 Edinburgh-Dundee)
Sc50143/51239 Inverkeithing-Edinburgh (0841 Cowdenbeath-Edinburgh)
26008 Edinburgh-Dalmeny (1025 Edinburgh-Dundee)
Sc50749/51248 Dalmeny-Haymarket (1020 Cowdenbeath-Edinburgh)
47446 Haymarket-Carstairs (1105 Edinburgh-Carstairs)
86245 Carstairs-Carlisle (1115 Glasgow C-Birmingham NS)
45113 Carlisle-Leeds (1150 Glasgow C-Nottingham)
43087+43094 Leeds-Doncaster (1545 Leeds-Kings Cross)
31186 Doncaster-York (1403 Kings Cross-York)
55008 York-Kings Cross (1814 York-Kings Cross)
Sunday 31st October 1982
50023 Pinhoe Jcn-Paddlington (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
via Yeovil & Westbury
50019 Waterloo-Salisbury (0910 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
33017 Salisbury-Bristol TM (0915 Portsmouth H-Cardiff C)
33057 Bristol TM-Bath (1055 Cardiff C-Portsmouth H-Cardiff C)
W51369/51411 Bath-Bristol TM (1215 Chippenham-Bristol TM)
50047 Bristol TM-Birmingham NS (1105 Plymouth-Manchester Pic)
47477 Birmingham NS-York (1405 Bristol TM-York) Relief
45107 York-Newcastle (1608 Bristol TM-Newcastle)
Saturday 31st October 1981
Unbeknown to me Deltic 14 suffered a boiler failure shortly after its departure from Kings Cross. At Peterborough 31270 was added to provide train heating and at York both locos were removed in favour of 47416! It ended up being my last run with No 14, even though it was back out in service by eight that morning it succumbed less than two weeks later with a traction motor defect. I was now stranded in Scotland with no Deltics present to work the final loco hauled Edinburgh-Plymouth service. I initially thought about spending the day sampling the loco hauled Edinburgh-Dundee services but by mid morning I gave up and decided to head back south via Carlisle. I’m not sure if this was the best move because it was 1630 by the time I managed to reach Doncaster and the possibility of some Deltic haulage. My first available train, the 1403 KX-York, arrived late with 31186 hauling a set of MkI coaches. When I arrived into York I was completely fed up with my day and I almost went home. However, the 31 was despatched to York depot and in its place Deltic 8, still operating on one engine, was provided for the return journey to Kings Cross. Only15 hours between Deltics!
31270+55014 Peterborough-York (2355 Kings Cross-Edinburgh)
47416 York-Edinburgh (2355 Kings Cross-Edinburgh)
25059 Edinburgh-Inverkeithing (0825 Edinburgh-Dundee)
Sc50143/51239 Inverkeithing-Edinburgh (0841 Cowdenbeath-Edinburgh)
26008 Edinburgh-Dalmeny (1025 Edinburgh-Dundee)
Sc50749/51248 Dalmeny-Haymarket (1020 Cowdenbeath-Edinburgh)
47446 Haymarket-Carstairs (1105 Edinburgh-Carstairs)
86245 Carstairs-Carlisle (1115 Glasgow C-Birmingham NS)
45113 Carlisle-Leeds (1150 Glasgow C-Nottingham)
43087+43094 Leeds-Doncaster (1545 Leeds-Kings Cross)
31186 Doncaster-York (1403 Kings Cross-York)
55008 York-Kings Cross (1814 York-Kings Cross)
Sunday 31st October 1982
50023 Pinhoe Jcn-Paddlington (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
via Yeovil & Westbury
50019 Waterloo-Salisbury (0910 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
33017 Salisbury-Bristol TM (0915 Portsmouth H-Cardiff C)
33057 Bristol TM-Bath (1055 Cardiff C-Portsmouth H-Cardiff C)
W51369/51411 Bath-Bristol TM (1215 Chippenham-Bristol TM)
50047 Bristol TM-Birmingham NS (1105 Plymouth-Manchester Pic)
47477 Birmingham NS-York (1405 Bristol TM-York) Relief
Saturday 31st October 1981
DMU Yeovil PM-Westbury
33004 Westbury-Bristol TM (2V58 0656 Portsmouth-Bristol)
45114 Bristol TM-Derby (1S27 0736 Plymouth-Edinburgh)
45125 Derby-Leicester (1M21 1212 Sheffield-St.Pancras)
45120 Leicester-Derby (1P10 1212 St.Pancras-Derby)
46023 Derby-Bristol TM (1V91 1143 Newcastle-Bristol)
33030 Bristol TM-Yeovil PM (2O61 1720 Cardiff-Weymouth)
DMU Yeovil PM-Westbury
33004 Westbury-Bristol TM (2V58 0656 Portsmouth-Bristol)
45114 Bristol TM-Derby (1S27 0736 Plymouth-Edinburgh)
45125 Derby-Leicester (1M21 1212 Sheffield-St.Pancras)
45120 Leicester-Derby (1P10 1212 St.Pancras-Derby)
46023 Derby-Bristol TM (1V91 1143 Newcastle-Bristol)
33030 Bristol TM-Yeovil PM (2O61 1720 Cardiff-Weymouth)
I didn't notice. Sorry.
I had a couple of different bitters, with fish, chips and peas. Others in my group had faggots. Not to my taste, ta very much.
A good get together with former RfD colleagues. Very appropriate for this thread.
There was one pump serving Bathams, but that's not one I sampled.
D1537
Established Member
Friday 1 November 1985
47575 1O19 Newcastle-B'ham NS
47435 1O19 B'ham NS-Coventry
Saturday 1 November 1986
I think I mentioned a few posts back that 47s north of York were a bit scarce - or irritatingly one-way at various times of the day - about this time so we ended up getting some serious Class 43 mileage in.
On this day, the plan was 47458 back south to York, but 458 was brand spanking new out of heavy general overhaul from Crewe, and Gateshead wanted to keep their shiny toy and sent out a 16-wheeler on 1M32, resulting in this immensely messy move.
47440 1O19 Newcastle-York
43051+43094 1S05 York-Durham
47417 1M73 Durham-York
47458 1E08 York-Newcastle
43094+43051 1E13 Newcastle-Darlington
47658 1E99 Darlington-Durham
43091+43090 1A23 Durham-York
47439 1E63 York-Darlington
43155+43099 1E20 Darlington-York
47417 1E59 York-Newcastle
47575 1O19 Newcastle-B'ham NS
47435 1O19 B'ham NS-Coventry
Saturday 1 November 1986
I think I mentioned a few posts back that 47s north of York were a bit scarce - or irritatingly one-way at various times of the day - about this time so we ended up getting some serious Class 43 mileage in.
On this day, the plan was 47458 back south to York, but 458 was brand spanking new out of heavy general overhaul from Crewe, and Gateshead wanted to keep their shiny toy and sent out a 16-wheeler on 1M32, resulting in this immensely messy move.
47440 1O19 Newcastle-York
43051+43094 1S05 York-Durham
47417 1M73 Durham-York
47458 1E08 York-Newcastle
43094+43051 1E13 Newcastle-Darlington
47658 1E99 Darlington-Durham
43091+43090 1A23 Durham-York
47439 1E63 York-Darlington
43155+43099 1E20 Darlington-York
47417 1E59 York-Newcastle
Sultan1056
Member
Saturday 1st November 1980
I vaguely remember this journey to the West Country being done on a Kellogg’s cereal promotion. I think you had to collect several vouchers from packets of Corn Flakes, pay £5 or £10, I can’t quite remember and then you could have a return trip between any two stations. I picked up one of my last 50s for haulage, my first in the large logo livery. 50042 worked the Up Midnight, however it stalled on Largin Bank. Assistance came in the shape of 47220 which helped push the train to Plymouth. Logic would assume that 50042 should be replaced, but it wasn’t.
55019 Newcastle-Kings Cross (2230 Edinburgh-Kings Cross)
50011 Waterloo-Andover (0650 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
50010 Andover-Basingstoke (0626 Exeter St D-Waterloo)
50036 Basingstoke-Gillingham (0910 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
33015 Gillingham-Salisbury (0940 Exeter St D-Waterloo)
50046 Salisbury-Exeter St D (1110 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
50012 Exeter St D-Plymouth (1023 Manchester Pic-Plymouth)
50003 Plymouth-Penzance (1745 Plymouth-Penzance)
50042 Penzance-Plymouth (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
47220 Largin Bank-Plymouth Assisting Loco (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
Sunday 1st November 1981
This was my last run with Deltic 11, it worked its final service on the following Friday. It had been operating on one engine since the end of September and was waiting for a replacement power unit that never came. Instead it was used to donate its working power unit to Deltic 22 which was having its own problems. At Newcastle I spent the morning travelling on the Tyne & Wear metro which had recently opened. With little else to do I went to Darlington for a few beers (The Ostler) before continuing to York. The 1550 to KX was a Duff which I took to Doncaster so that I could have Deltic 2, now quite rare on a service train to York.
55011 Kings Cross-Newcastle (0005 Kings Cross-Newcastle)
via Hertford N, Sleaford, Lincoln, Normanton, Stockton & Leamside
4042 Haymarket-South Gosforth (0757 Haymarket-South Gosforth)
4043 South Gosforth-Tynemouth (0813 South Gosforth-Tynemouth)
4032 Tynemouth-Haymarket (0911 Tynemouth-Haymarket)
4017 Haymarket-Bank Foot (1016 Haymarket-Bank Foot)
4033 Bank Foot-Haymarket (1051 Bank Foot-Haymarket)
45050 Newcastle-Darlington (1225 Newcastle-Plymouth)
43070+43095 Darlington-York (1215 Edinburgh-Kings Cross)
47430 York-Doncaster (1550 York-Kings Cross)
55002 Doncaster-York (1405 Kings Cross-York)
I vaguely remember this journey to the West Country being done on a Kellogg’s cereal promotion. I think you had to collect several vouchers from packets of Corn Flakes, pay £5 or £10, I can’t quite remember and then you could have a return trip between any two stations. I picked up one of my last 50s for haulage, my first in the large logo livery. 50042 worked the Up Midnight, however it stalled on Largin Bank. Assistance came in the shape of 47220 which helped push the train to Plymouth. Logic would assume that 50042 should be replaced, but it wasn’t.
55019 Newcastle-Kings Cross (2230 Edinburgh-Kings Cross)
50011 Waterloo-Andover (0650 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
50010 Andover-Basingstoke (0626 Exeter St D-Waterloo)
50036 Basingstoke-Gillingham (0910 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
33015 Gillingham-Salisbury (0940 Exeter St D-Waterloo)
50046 Salisbury-Exeter St D (1110 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
50012 Exeter St D-Plymouth (1023 Manchester Pic-Plymouth)
50003 Plymouth-Penzance (1745 Plymouth-Penzance)
50042 Penzance-Plymouth (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
47220 Largin Bank-Plymouth Assisting Loco (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
Sunday 1st November 1981
This was my last run with Deltic 11, it worked its final service on the following Friday. It had been operating on one engine since the end of September and was waiting for a replacement power unit that never came. Instead it was used to donate its working power unit to Deltic 22 which was having its own problems. At Newcastle I spent the morning travelling on the Tyne & Wear metro which had recently opened. With little else to do I went to Darlington for a few beers (The Ostler) before continuing to York. The 1550 to KX was a Duff which I took to Doncaster so that I could have Deltic 2, now quite rare on a service train to York.
55011 Kings Cross-Newcastle (0005 Kings Cross-Newcastle)
via Hertford N, Sleaford, Lincoln, Normanton, Stockton & Leamside
4042 Haymarket-South Gosforth (0757 Haymarket-South Gosforth)
4043 South Gosforth-Tynemouth (0813 South Gosforth-Tynemouth)
4032 Tynemouth-Haymarket (0911 Tynemouth-Haymarket)
4017 Haymarket-Bank Foot (1016 Haymarket-Bank Foot)
4033 Bank Foot-Haymarket (1051 Bank Foot-Haymarket)
45050 Newcastle-Darlington (1225 Newcastle-Plymouth)
43070+43095 Darlington-York (1215 Edinburgh-Kings Cross)
47430 York-Doncaster (1550 York-Kings Cross)
55002 Doncaster-York (1405 Kings Cross-York)
D1537
Established Member
Saturday 2 November 1985
47456 1M73 Newcastle-York
47477 1E08 York-Newcastle
47477 1M32 Newcastle-York
47627 1E91 York-Newcastle
Sunday 2 November 1986
47658 1V87 Newcastle-York
47624 1S41 York-Newcastle
47420 1O11 Newcastle-Derby
47524 1E63 Derby-Newcastle
The next morning I got a lift into town and our car got t-boned by a van. My driver ended up in hospital for a week (she doesn't remember to this day a thing about the accident) and I broke my ankle as well as a number of minor injuries (I've still got the scar on the side of my head caused by a bit of flying glass). Which was very annoying as I'd just bought a new week's Ranger ticket the previous day. So that's the end of 1986 for a bit
Wednesday 2 November 1988
Day off work, some sort of ticket offer going on, decided to go to Bournemouth with the green loco. Could have gone to Poole, but Bournemouth had food and beer.
47628 1O08 Coventry-Bournemouth
47628 1M23 Bournemouth-Coventry
47456 1M73 Newcastle-York
47477 1E08 York-Newcastle
47477 1M32 Newcastle-York
47627 1E91 York-Newcastle
Sunday 2 November 1986
47658 1V87 Newcastle-York
47624 1S41 York-Newcastle
47420 1O11 Newcastle-Derby
47524 1E63 Derby-Newcastle
The next morning I got a lift into town and our car got t-boned by a van. My driver ended up in hospital for a week (she doesn't remember to this day a thing about the accident) and I broke my ankle as well as a number of minor injuries (I've still got the scar on the side of my head caused by a bit of flying glass). Which was very annoying as I'd just bought a new week's Ranger ticket the previous day. So that's the end of 1986 for a bit
Wednesday 2 November 1988
Day off work, some sort of ticket offer going on, decided to go to Bournemouth with the green loco. Could have gone to Poole, but Bournemouth had food and beer.
47628 1O08 Coventry-Bournemouth
47628 1M23 Bournemouth-Coventry
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Sultan1056
Member
Sunday 2nd November 1980
Having required the assistance of 47220 between Largin Bank and Plymouth on the journey from Penzance, 50042 remained on the train at Plymouth with 50036 added to provide assistance over the Devon banks. With a pair of fifties the train didn’t even get as far as Hemerdon before it stalled again. Another class 47 or probably 47220 again pushed the train onto Totnes where the pair of fifties continued to Exeter. 50042 was deemed fit to continue with the train solo, which it did without further ado to Paddington.
50042+50036 Plymouth-Exeter St D (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
47xxx Milepost 241.25-Totnes Assisting Loco (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
50042 Exeter St D-Paddington via Yeovil Pen Mill (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
55017 Kings Cross-York (1005 Kings Cross-York)
Monday 2nd November 1981
55007 York-Peterborough (1814 York-Kings Cross)
55010 Peterborough-Doncaster (1940 Kings Cross-Hull)
E50137/50276 Doncaster-York (2220 Doncaster-York)
Having required the assistance of 47220 between Largin Bank and Plymouth on the journey from Penzance, 50042 remained on the train at Plymouth with 50036 added to provide assistance over the Devon banks. With a pair of fifties the train didn’t even get as far as Hemerdon before it stalled again. Another class 47 or probably 47220 again pushed the train onto Totnes where the pair of fifties continued to Exeter. 50042 was deemed fit to continue with the train solo, which it did without further ado to Paddington.
50042+50036 Plymouth-Exeter St D (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
47xxx Milepost 241.25-Totnes Assisting Loco (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
50042 Exeter St D-Paddington via Yeovil Pen Mill (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
55017 Kings Cross-York (1005 Kings Cross-York)
Monday 2nd November 1981
55007 York-Peterborough (1814 York-Kings Cross)
55010 Peterborough-Doncaster (1940 Kings Cross-Hull)
E50137/50276 Doncaster-York (2220 Doncaster-York)
Sultan1056
Member
Saturday 3rd November 1979
Deltic 16 had spent several months out of service in Doncaster Works. I was desperate to get some mileage out of it so I headed off to Edinburgh. I am not sure why I had to return home with a Duff.
55016 York-Edinburgh (0725 Plymouth-Edinburgh)
47544 Edinburgh-Haymarket (1855 Edinburgh-Aberdeen)
47413 Haymarket-York (1630 Aberdeen-York)
Deltic 16 had spent several months out of service in Doncaster Works. I was desperate to get some mileage out of it so I headed off to Edinburgh. I am not sure why I had to return home with a Duff.
55016 York-Edinburgh (0725 Plymouth-Edinburgh)
47544 Edinburgh-Haymarket (1855 Edinburgh-Aberdeen)
47413 Haymarket-York (1630 Aberdeen-York)
Rail conditioning by a train’s consist allows a loco in rear to put more power down on slippery rails than one on the front can.
GWR’s power cars had a mod in their final years to switch off the last notch on the leading power car to take advantage of that.
Sultan1056
Member
That must have been the case with my journey that night.
D1537
Established Member
Monday 4 November 1985
47406 1V85 Newcastle-York
43123+43105 1S08 York-Newcastle
47406 1V85 Newcastle-York
43123+43105 1S08 York-Newcastle
Sultan1056
Member
Saturday 4th November 1978
A day spent on Chesterfield/Sheffield/Rotherham axis where new engines were plentiful for me. The most unusual working of the day was a Class31/37 combo on the Harwich Boat Train. Waiting for this service at Chesterfield could be a little tense, with the hope that the train would produce a 37 rather than a 47. If the train announcer said that the service was on time there was a high likelihood that it would be a class 47. If the train was announced as a few minutes late there was a good chance that a 37 would be on the train. Today the train was announced as being on time so I was expecting the worst. However I was astonished, as a Class 31 came into view only then to realise that it’s on-time efforts were with the assistance of a class 37.
45017 York-Chesterfield (0700 Newcastle-Poole)
47498 Chesterfield-Sheffield (0750 St Pancras-Sheffield)
45148 Sheffield-Chesterfield (1100 Sheffield-St Pancras)
31105+37089 Chesterfield-Sheffield (0728 St Harwich PQ-Manchester Pic)
47043 Sheffield-Rotherham (0727 Swansea-Leeds)
31269 Rotherham-Sheffield (0935 Carlisle-Nottingham)
45133 Sheffield-Chesterfield (1500 Sheffield-St Pancras)
45108 Chesterfield-Sheffield (1301 St Pancras-Sheffield)
45014 Sheffield-Chesterfield (1335 Newcastle-Swansea)
45017 Chesterfield-Sheffield (1139 Poole-Leeds)
45104 Sheffield-Chesterfield (1803 Sheffield-St Pancras)
45126 Chesterfield-Sheffield (1601 St Pancras-Sheffield)
45010 Sheffield-York (1608 Bristol TM-Newcastle)
Sunday 4th November 1979
55014 York-Grantham (1550 York-Kings Cross)
55003 Grantham-York (1605 Kings Cross-York)
A day spent on Chesterfield/Sheffield/Rotherham axis where new engines were plentiful for me. The most unusual working of the day was a Class31/37 combo on the Harwich Boat Train. Waiting for this service at Chesterfield could be a little tense, with the hope that the train would produce a 37 rather than a 47. If the train announcer said that the service was on time there was a high likelihood that it would be a class 47. If the train was announced as a few minutes late there was a good chance that a 37 would be on the train. Today the train was announced as being on time so I was expecting the worst. However I was astonished, as a Class 31 came into view only then to realise that it’s on-time efforts were with the assistance of a class 37.
45017 York-Chesterfield (0700 Newcastle-Poole)
47498 Chesterfield-Sheffield (0750 St Pancras-Sheffield)
45148 Sheffield-Chesterfield (1100 Sheffield-St Pancras)
31105+37089 Chesterfield-Sheffield (0728 St Harwich PQ-Manchester Pic)
47043 Sheffield-Rotherham (0727 Swansea-Leeds)
31269 Rotherham-Sheffield (0935 Carlisle-Nottingham)
45133 Sheffield-Chesterfield (1500 Sheffield-St Pancras)
45108 Chesterfield-Sheffield (1301 St Pancras-Sheffield)
45014 Sheffield-Chesterfield (1335 Newcastle-Swansea)
45017 Chesterfield-Sheffield (1139 Poole-Leeds)
45104 Sheffield-Chesterfield (1803 Sheffield-St Pancras)
45126 Chesterfield-Sheffield (1601 St Pancras-Sheffield)
45010 Sheffield-York (1608 Bristol TM-Newcastle)
Sunday 4th November 1979
55014 York-Grantham (1550 York-Kings Cross)
55003 Grantham-York (1605 Kings Cross-York)
Sultan1056
Member
Wednesday 5th November 2008
I have to travel back to the future and the 21st Century before I can record a travel by train on the 5th November.
43132/43186 Plymouth-Paddington (0842 Penzance-Paddington)
91130 Kings Cross-York (1430 Kings Cross-Newcastle)
I have to travel back to the future and the 21st Century before I can record a travel by train on the 5th November.
43132/43186 Plymouth-Paddington (0842 Penzance-Paddington)
91130 Kings Cross-York (1430 Kings Cross-Newcastle)
Sultan1056
Member
Saturday 6th November 1976
This was a spotting trip to various depots around London. One of the few memories I have of the day was seeing a class 31 at Moorgate tube station. IIRC this was the final day of loco hauled services via the Widened Lines.
DMU York-Sheffield (0718 York-Sheffield)
45143 Sheffield-Nottingham (0900 Sheffield-St Pancras)
45132 Nottingham-St Pancras (0900 Sheffield-St Pancras)
47514 Kings Cross-York (1900 Kings Cross-Newcastle)
Friday 6th November 1981
By November 81 it was getting a little more difficult to follow the Deltics so my strategy was to find one and stick with it to its destination. I took Deltic 21 to Kings Cross knowing that I would be in the best place to cover any further Deltic services. I didn’t have to wait too long before Deltic 2 was attached to the Night Aberdonian sleeper. There was one problem taking this train, that being No 2 was booked to work a railtour after its arrival into Edinburgh and I could get stranded in Scotland. As No 2 was one of the four “Railtour Deltics” it had become quite difficult to travel behind on service trains so bearing this in mind I followed it to Edinburgh.
55021 York-Kings Cross (1814 York-Kings Cross)
55002 Kings Cross-Edinburgh via Leamside (2215 Kings Cross-Aberdeen)
This was a spotting trip to various depots around London. One of the few memories I have of the day was seeing a class 31 at Moorgate tube station. IIRC this was the final day of loco hauled services via the Widened Lines.
DMU York-Sheffield (0718 York-Sheffield)
45143 Sheffield-Nottingham (0900 Sheffield-St Pancras)
45132 Nottingham-St Pancras (0900 Sheffield-St Pancras)
47514 Kings Cross-York (1900 Kings Cross-Newcastle)
Friday 6th November 1981
By November 81 it was getting a little more difficult to follow the Deltics so my strategy was to find one and stick with it to its destination. I took Deltic 21 to Kings Cross knowing that I would be in the best place to cover any further Deltic services. I didn’t have to wait too long before Deltic 2 was attached to the Night Aberdonian sleeper. There was one problem taking this train, that being No 2 was booked to work a railtour after its arrival into Edinburgh and I could get stranded in Scotland. As No 2 was one of the four “Railtour Deltics” it had become quite difficult to travel behind on service trains so bearing this in mind I followed it to Edinburgh.
55021 York-Kings Cross (1814 York-Kings Cross)
55002 Kings Cross-Edinburgh via Leamside (2215 Kings Cross-Aberdeen)
D1537
Established Member
I couldn't find a single thing for 5th November either (I am missing a couple of year's moves books - notably 1983 and 1989 - at the moment though, as we've moved house and a lot of stuff is still in boxes). I did have 802206 from Darlington to Newcastle last night, but I don't think that counts as "back in the day"!
And for November 6th, I've got very little either. A positioning move for a railtour the next day, basically!
Friday 6 November 1987
47406 1M26 Newcastle-Manchester Vic
304039 Manchester Picc-Holmes Chapel
xotGD
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Bending the rules in that fashion I had 91110 Leeds to the Cross yesterday.
D1537
Established Member
Saturday 7 November 1987
304037 Holmes Chapel-Crewe
86432 1P18 Crewe-Warrington BQ
SEG "The East Lancs Executive" railtour
47452 1L03 Warrington BQ-Bury Bolton Street (via Earlestown, Cheetham Hill Jc, Queens Rd Jc)
D832 1L03 Bury Bolton St-Ramsbottom
40145 1L03 Ramsbottom-Bury Bolton St
47452 1L03 Bury Bolton St-Rugby (via Man Vic R/R, Rochdale, Oldham Loop, Thorpes Br. Jc, Brewery Sidings Jc, Ashton Branch Jc, Denton, Stockport, Altrincham, Northwich, Middlewich, Crewe, Stoke, Colwich)
304037 Holmes Chapel-Crewe
86432 1P18 Crewe-Warrington BQ
SEG "The East Lancs Executive" railtour
47452 1L03 Warrington BQ-Bury Bolton Street (via Earlestown, Cheetham Hill Jc, Queens Rd Jc)
D832 1L03 Bury Bolton St-Ramsbottom
40145 1L03 Ramsbottom-Bury Bolton St
47452 1L03 Bury Bolton St-Rugby (via Man Vic R/R, Rochdale, Oldham Loop, Thorpes Br. Jc, Brewery Sidings Jc, Ashton Branch Jc, Denton, Stockport, Altrincham, Northwich, Middlewich, Crewe, Stoke, Colwich)
Sultan1056
Member
Friday 7th November 1980
55019 York-Kings Cross (1955 York-Kings Cross)
Saturday 7th November 1981
After Deltic 2 was removed from my overnight train at Edinburgh I continued to Dundee with the expected Duff. I spent the rest of the morning travelling on the Edinburgh-Dundee loco hauled circuit before heading into Edinburgh and hopefully making an exit with a Deltic. Thankfully Deltics 15 & 21 were both on Haymarket so I thought that I would be able to follow one on an overnight service south. No 21 was the first to leave the Scottish Capital but this was by the 1718 stopping service to Newcastle. The loco off this train would frequently go onto work the 2030/2100 Newcastle-KX. I took No 21 to Newcastle but was disappointed to find out that it had not been booked to work onto Kings Cross. A bigger disappointment was the fact that Deltic 15 was following on the Sleeper Only service from Edinburgh. I could travel back to Edinburgh with Deltic 10 but I would then be left stranded again in Scotland. There was however a potential escape route. I found out from a couple of Forty bashers that the West Coast overnight services were being diverted via the Settle & Carlisle and there was a very good chance that a Class 40 would work one of them. I thought that I had little to lose, plus I would be in London in good time to catch the 1005 KX-York. I headed off to Carlisle with high expectations.
47461 Edinburgh-Dundee (2215 Kings Cross-Aberdeen)
26023 Dundee-Inverkeithing (0920 Dundee-Edinburgh)
27034 Inverkeithing-Kirkcaldy (1025 Edinburgh-Dundee)
26033 Kirkcaldy-Edinburgh (1105 Perth-Edinburgh)
26023 Edinburgh-Inverkeithing (1325 Edinburgh-Dundee)
25079 Inverkeithing-Edinburgh (1220 Dundee-Edinburgh)
55021 Edinburgh-Newcastle (1718 Edinburgh-Newcastle)
E50294 Newcastle-Carlisle (2320 Newcastle-Carlisle)
55019 York-Kings Cross (1955 York-Kings Cross)
Saturday 7th November 1981
After Deltic 2 was removed from my overnight train at Edinburgh I continued to Dundee with the expected Duff. I spent the rest of the morning travelling on the Edinburgh-Dundee loco hauled circuit before heading into Edinburgh and hopefully making an exit with a Deltic. Thankfully Deltics 15 & 21 were both on Haymarket so I thought that I would be able to follow one on an overnight service south. No 21 was the first to leave the Scottish Capital but this was by the 1718 stopping service to Newcastle. The loco off this train would frequently go onto work the 2030/2100 Newcastle-KX. I took No 21 to Newcastle but was disappointed to find out that it had not been booked to work onto Kings Cross. A bigger disappointment was the fact that Deltic 15 was following on the Sleeper Only service from Edinburgh. I could travel back to Edinburgh with Deltic 10 but I would then be left stranded again in Scotland. There was however a potential escape route. I found out from a couple of Forty bashers that the West Coast overnight services were being diverted via the Settle & Carlisle and there was a very good chance that a Class 40 would work one of them. I thought that I had little to lose, plus I would be in London in good time to catch the 1005 KX-York. I headed off to Carlisle with high expectations.
47461 Edinburgh-Dundee (2215 Kings Cross-Aberdeen)
26023 Dundee-Inverkeithing (0920 Dundee-Edinburgh)
27034 Inverkeithing-Kirkcaldy (1025 Edinburgh-Dundee)
26033 Kirkcaldy-Edinburgh (1105 Perth-Edinburgh)
26023 Edinburgh-Inverkeithing (1325 Edinburgh-Dundee)
25079 Inverkeithing-Edinburgh (1220 Dundee-Edinburgh)
55021 Edinburgh-Newcastle (1718 Edinburgh-Newcastle)
E50294 Newcastle-Carlisle (2320 Newcastle-Carlisle)
D1537
Established Member
Nothing much again for today...
Friday 8 November 1985
47424 1M73 Newcastle-York
dmu York-Harrogate
dmu Harrogate-York
47546 1E88 York-Newcastle
Friday 8 November 1985
47424 1M73 Newcastle-York
dmu York-Harrogate
dmu Harrogate-York
47546 1E88 York-Newcastle
Sultan1056
Member
Saturday 8th November 1980
50005 Paddington-Exeter St D (0002 Paddington-Penzance)
50005+50040 Exeter St D-Plymouth (0002 Paddington-Penzance)
46032 Plymouth-Newton Abbot (0626 Plymouth-Liverpool LS)
50003 Newton Abbot-Paignton (0725 Newton Abbot-Paignton)
50003 Paignton-Exeter St D (0757 Paignton-Paddington)
33009 Exeter St D-Honiton (0940 Exeter St D-Waterloo)
50007 Honiton-Exeter St D (0650 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
50005 Exeter St D-Bristol TM (1114 Plymouth-Manchester Pic)
33025 Bristol TM-Westbury (1505 Bristol TM-Portsmouth H)
50013 Westbury-Exeter St D (1425 Paddington-Plymouth)
50029 Exeter C-Exeter St D (1510 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
31128 Exeter St D-Newton Abbot (1955 Exeter St D-Paignton)
47136 Newton Abbot-Plymouth (1431 Leeds-Plymouth)
Sunday 8th November 1981
At Carlisle my high expectations of seeing a Class 40 waiting to take an overnight service south were shattered when a line of 47/4s greeted my arrival. I picked the next service and headed to Euston. For reasons unknown to me the train encountered some problems on its journey south, meaning my arrival into Euston was sufficiently late that I missed the 1005 to York. It was hauled by Deltic 2 which I never had again and to make matters worse the two other daytime services from KX to York were allocated to Duffs. I decided to take a large detour home, mostly with Class 50s.
47525 Carlisle-Preston via Ais Gill (2220 Stranraer H-Euston)
86205 Preston-Euston (2220 Stranraer H-Euston)
via Wolverhampton, Bescot, Coventry & Northampton
50019 Paddington-Exeter St D (1125 Paddington-Plymouth)
50003 Exeter St D-Birmingham NS (1320 Plymouth-Liverpool LS)
46027 Birmingham NS-York (1450 Plymouth-York)
50005 Paddington-Exeter St D (0002 Paddington-Penzance)
50005+50040 Exeter St D-Plymouth (0002 Paddington-Penzance)
46032 Plymouth-Newton Abbot (0626 Plymouth-Liverpool LS)
50003 Newton Abbot-Paignton (0725 Newton Abbot-Paignton)
50003 Paignton-Exeter St D (0757 Paignton-Paddington)
33009 Exeter St D-Honiton (0940 Exeter St D-Waterloo)
50007 Honiton-Exeter St D (0650 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
50005 Exeter St D-Bristol TM (1114 Plymouth-Manchester Pic)
33025 Bristol TM-Westbury (1505 Bristol TM-Portsmouth H)
50013 Westbury-Exeter St D (1425 Paddington-Plymouth)
50029 Exeter C-Exeter St D (1510 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
31128 Exeter St D-Newton Abbot (1955 Exeter St D-Paignton)
47136 Newton Abbot-Plymouth (1431 Leeds-Plymouth)
Sunday 8th November 1981
At Carlisle my high expectations of seeing a Class 40 waiting to take an overnight service south were shattered when a line of 47/4s greeted my arrival. I picked the next service and headed to Euston. For reasons unknown to me the train encountered some problems on its journey south, meaning my arrival into Euston was sufficiently late that I missed the 1005 to York. It was hauled by Deltic 2 which I never had again and to make matters worse the two other daytime services from KX to York were allocated to Duffs. I decided to take a large detour home, mostly with Class 50s.
47525 Carlisle-Preston via Ais Gill (2220 Stranraer H-Euston)
86205 Preston-Euston (2220 Stranraer H-Euston)
via Wolverhampton, Bescot, Coventry & Northampton
50019 Paddington-Exeter St D (1125 Paddington-Plymouth)
50003 Exeter St D-Birmingham NS (1320 Plymouth-Liverpool LS)
46027 Birmingham NS-York (1450 Plymouth-York)
Sultan1056
Member
Saturday 9th November 1974
A spotting trip to Derby including my first visit to Toton. Peaks 50 & 122 became 45040 & 45070 respectively.
46026 York-Derby (0809 Newcastle-Bristol TM)
50 Derby-Sheffield (1130 Poole-Leeds)
122 Sheffield-York (1742 Sheffield-Newcastle)
Sunday 9th November 1980
50013+50018 Plymouth-Exeter St D (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
50013 Exeter St D-Paddington via Salisbury & Westbury (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
50023 Waterloo-Basingstoke (0910 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
50029 Basingstoke-Waterloo (0945 Exeter St D-Waterloo)
55004 Kings Cross-York (1405 Kings Cross-York)
A spotting trip to Derby including my first visit to Toton. Peaks 50 & 122 became 45040 & 45070 respectively.
46026 York-Derby (0809 Newcastle-Bristol TM)
50 Derby-Sheffield (1130 Poole-Leeds)
122 Sheffield-York (1742 Sheffield-Newcastle)
Sunday 9th November 1980
50013+50018 Plymouth-Exeter St D (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
50013 Exeter St D-Paddington via Salisbury & Westbury (2045 Penzance-Paddington)
50023 Waterloo-Basingstoke (0910 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
50029 Basingstoke-Waterloo (0945 Exeter St D-Waterloo)
55004 Kings Cross-York (1405 Kings Cross-York)
D1537
Established Member
Saturday 9 November 1985
No move, but my book notes that all three main Pennine 47 diagrams that day were "(expletive deleted) (derogatory word for Class 45)", so I presume I went home in disgust.
RailGen Archive suggests that 403 later did 1M32, but there wouldn't have been a move off it anyway except to come back north via HST!
Monday 9 November 1987
Back to the North-East after the weekend
87023 1H04 Rugby-Stockport
53444+? Stockport-Stalybridge
47421 1E82 Stalybridge-Newcastle
Wednesday 9 November 1988
I had a job interview in Liverpool. Didn't get it.
86226 1P02 Rugby-Crewe
87013 1F14 Crewe-Liverpool
47663 1O14 Liverpool-Coventry
No move, but my book notes that all three main Pennine 47 diagrams that day were "(expletive deleted) (derogatory word for Class 45)", so I presume I went home in disgust.
RailGen Archive suggests that 403 later did 1M32, but there wouldn't have been a move off it anyway except to come back north via HST!
Monday 9 November 1987
Back to the North-East after the weekend
87023 1H04 Rugby-Stockport
53444+? Stockport-Stalybridge
47421 1E82 Stalybridge-Newcastle
Wednesday 9 November 1988
I had a job interview in Liverpool. Didn't get it.
86226 1P02 Rugby-Crewe
87013 1F14 Crewe-Liverpool
47663 1O14 Liverpool-Coventry
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Sultan1056
Member
Saturday 10th November 1979
Having travelled up to London with Deltic 2, I was expecting to return north either with the 1205 to Hull or 1220 to York. The 1205 produced a Duff which wasn’t a problem because Deltic 14 was already being coupled up to the 1220 to York. There was an issue however with No 14, after a short delay it was declared a failure and the train was cancelled. I had to wait for the 1405 service to York with Deltic 21 before I could head back north. With the 1220 service being cancelled it seemed that the return working, the 1550 York-KX would be cancelled too. However a scratch set of Mark Is were found, and together with en ex-works Deltic 17, worked the service. I took this from Doncaster to Grantham before returning to York with Deltic 22. I thought my day was done when I headed home about 8, but I was persuaded to return to cover the overnight services to Edinburgh which were to be diverted via an unusual route.
55002 York-Kings Cross (0805 York-Kings Cross)
55021 Kings Cross-Doncaster (1405 Kings Cross-York)
55017 Doncaster-Grantham (1550 York-Kings Cross)
55022 Grantham-York (1605 Kings Cross-York)
Having travelled up to London with Deltic 2, I was expecting to return north either with the 1205 to Hull or 1220 to York. The 1205 produced a Duff which wasn’t a problem because Deltic 14 was already being coupled up to the 1220 to York. There was an issue however with No 14, after a short delay it was declared a failure and the train was cancelled. I had to wait for the 1405 service to York with Deltic 21 before I could head back north. With the 1220 service being cancelled it seemed that the return working, the 1550 York-KX would be cancelled too. However a scratch set of Mark Is were found, and together with en ex-works Deltic 17, worked the service. I took this from Doncaster to Grantham before returning to York with Deltic 22. I thought my day was done when I headed home about 8, but I was persuaded to return to cover the overnight services to Edinburgh which were to be diverted via an unusual route.
55002 York-Kings Cross (0805 York-Kings Cross)
55021 Kings Cross-Doncaster (1405 Kings Cross-York)
55017 Doncaster-Grantham (1550 York-Kings Cross)
55022 Grantham-York (1605 Kings Cross-York)
D1537
Established Member
Sunday 10 November 1985
There were two loco-hauled Newcastle-KX trains on a Sunday afternoon in this timetable (I think they were technically additionals but they ran every week without fail), which made a handy beer move in York if you couldn't be bothered to go out earlier (or were too hung over). Again this is the only move I can find for this date, clearly November was often a quiet time!
47425 1A87 Newcastle-York
47423 1E37 York-Newcastle
The additionals were also an excellent way to travel to London in MkI comfort, as they made the northbound ECML sleepers at Peterborough or KX, and also the Down Midnight if you preferred. Here is 431 on 1A87 on 17/11/85, I was waiting for 413 on 1A88 behind.
There were two loco-hauled Newcastle-KX trains on a Sunday afternoon in this timetable (I think they were technically additionals but they ran every week without fail), which made a handy beer move in York if you couldn't be bothered to go out earlier (or were too hung over). Again this is the only move I can find for this date, clearly November was often a quiet time!
47425 1A87 Newcastle-York
47423 1E37 York-Newcastle
The additionals were also an excellent way to travel to London in MkI comfort, as they made the northbound ECML sleepers at Peterborough or KX, and also the Down Midnight if you preferred. Here is 431 on 1A87 on 17/11/85, I was waiting for 413 on 1A88 behind.
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